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Is there a text version of Pathfinder (like the srd) for kindle 3? If not, what would you have to do to make it? Could you make one on your own? I just bought one and it would rock to have the rules with links to certain sections.


At this time we do not have plans to release the Pathfinder RPG line as eBooks (in our case, ePubs). This is mostly because the ability to control how elements are formatted (like stat blocks, tables and sidebars) is limited. The reason we have ePubs of our Pathfinder Tales line is because they are mostly plain text, with images as a secondary element.

The RPG hardcovers are much more involved, and being able to get those looking halfway decent and usable in that format is both time intensive and the end product simply wouldn't function in the same way the PRD does. If we were to release such a product, we'd want it to be as up to snuff as possible.

However, you may do what you like for your Kindle, given that it is for your own personal use. Redistributing any eBook that you create for it, however, would need to be discussed with Vic Wertz.


Well if I were to do it it would only be for myself. Though I think it would be too labour intensive for one person.
As for format from what I've seen of the ones on Kindle, it would not be all that different from the Pathfinder srd site. Though it might have to be several "books".
In fact to be honest, this thing has become attached to my hip. Just the rules in plain text would have me buying the whole rule set over again. I'd easily pay 10-20 a book AGAIN (I buy both hardback and pdfs)just to have it on the Kindle. Not just for "at the game table" in fact it would be so I could have the books to read in my free time to prepare for the game.
I would even go so far to say that by not tapping the Kindle market you are missing out on a lot of money making potential since you're just putting something that is free online and reselling it.


Exiled Prince wrote:

Well if I were to do it it would only be for myself. Though I think it would be too labour intensive for one person.

As for format from what I've seen of the ones on Kindle, it would not be all that different from the Pathfinder srd site. Though it might have to be several "books".
In fact to be honest, this thing has become attached to my hip. Just the rules in plain text would have me buying the whole rule set over again. I'd easily pay 10-20 a book AGAIN (I buy both hardback and pdfs)just to have it on the Kindle. Not just for "at the game table" in fact it would be so I could have the books to read in my free time to prepare for the game.
I would even go so far to say that by not tapping the Kindle market you are missing out on a lot of money making potential since you're just putting something that is free online and reselling it.

I consult the SRR directly from my Kindle's browser. Works well enough.

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I was under the impression that a Kindle was friendly to PDFs. What have I got wrong?


NotMousse wrote:
I was under the impression that a Kindle was friendly to PDFs. What have I got wrong?

You can read PDFs, but it's somewhat sluggish, and difficult to adjust to the screen.

I'm waiting for the Kindle Fire myself.


NotMousse wrote:
I was under the impression that a Kindle was friendly to PDFs. What have I got wrong?

I have not thought about that. I'll have to give it a try.

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Straight text PDFs are one thing, PDFs with a lot of pictures and text formatting are a bit wonky. I'm holding off on the Fire until they release the larger (10"?) version next year.


Does anyone know if HeroLab or another CharGen software will run or be availible on the Kindle Touch or Kindle Fire?

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NotMousse wrote:
I was under the impression that a Kindle was friendly to PDFs. What have I got wrong?

Even for PDFs without heavy formatting and graphics, reading on a Kindle is kinda awkward - it tries to squeeze a whole page onto a single screen, which usually results in very small text. There are solutions to make it readable (side view gives you a width of the page, which is a lot better; there's a zoom tool which lets you pan around) but it's very far from the simple, comfortable reading of eBook formats.

I can only assume that a Paizo PDF, chock-full of lovely design and artwork, will be even more difficult to read on a Kindle :-/

Here's a nice how-to guide on tweaking PDFs for Kindle, which basically suggests you crop them first; I've managed nicely with some of my PDFs, but for intricate designs like Paizo products, it'd be a whole lot more difficult.

Exiled Prince wrote:
Is there a text version of Pathfinder (like the srd) for kindle 3? If not, what would you have to do to make it? Could you make one on your own? I just bought one and it would rock to have the rules with links to certain sections.

The epub format is a close relation of HTML, so converting the PRD sounds doable.... though far from trivial. I haven't found any tools that do such a job easily. If you're of a tech-oriented bent, you might check out Sigil, which I understand is a highly-respected ebook editing program; it might be a good place to start.

I've been nosing around the PRD a lot recently; I totally wish there were a handy eBook version - that'd be marvelously convenient. It looks decent when I browse the website, but an actual ebook file would be miles better, quicker, and easier to browse through.

Dark Archive

I have just registered this link to an epub on the Paizo Community Use register

http://sites.google.com/site/pathfindersrdepub/epub

I am happy to take the file down if it offends Paizo Publishing

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I would *love* to have ePub or some other format that worked well on the Kindle. As is, I need to bring my laptop to gaming sessions.

Heck, I don't even need the full book. A full list of spells and maybe magic items would be a handy tool.

Liberty's Edge

Chris Lambertz wrote:

The RPG hardcovers are much more involved, and being able to get those looking halfway decent and usable in that format is both time intensive and the end product simply wouldn't function in the same way the PRD does. If we were to release such a product, we'd want it to be as up to snuff as possible.

I would pay a premium for such a Kindle formatted Pathfinder RPG line of ebooks. Briss and magnifying the PDFs only get you so far. We need a true Kindle experience for Pathfinder. This would give Paizo yet another leg up on WoTC (my gut tells me they are working up something special for 5th Edition).

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Vic Wertz has posted numerous times on this subject. This one is from mid-July of this year.

Vic Wertz wrote:
Chris Self wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:

Vic Wertz (our Technical Director) has made a number of posts on the subject. Here is one of them.

Essentially, it has to do with the terms of the contract Amazon requires Kindle publishers to sign.

However, we DO make Pathfinder Tales available in the ePub format, which is easily converted to the Kindle's native format, and works directly on most other e-readers.

The post Ross linked to has a link that's now defunct. Live link.

And a link to the page talking about it.

Actually, my biggest issues are with different parts of the contract than the SFWA folks have identified (though a few of the things the have identified are a bit unnerving). For me, the biggest problem is that it allows Amazon to sell at whatever price they choose, regardless of what the publisher sets as list. And since *most* resellers have clauses in their contracts that effectively allow them to sell at the lowest price that anyone else sells at, that means Amazon lowering the price on their site effectively forces the publisher to change the price *everywhere*, based solely on Amazon's whim, and without regard for the publisher's own needs. The pricing relationship between print and electronic editions of our products is an essential part of Paizo's strategy. Amazon does not know our business better than we do, and they do not have our best interests in mind when setting prices.

Most of the major book publishers had issues with this this same clause, and Amazon ended up making individual deals with them leaving out that clause, but they refuse to offer the same deal to small publishers like us.

I think it's also incredibly lame that they if they sell one of your books to a customer outside of Austria, Canada, Germany, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland, United Kingdom, or the United States, they only pay you 35% instead of 70% (minus a "network usage fee", which is also a ludicrous concept).


My new Kindle Fire works really well with the PDFs, as well as the PRD loaded straight from the website.


marv wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:

The RPG hardcovers are much more involved, and being able to get those looking halfway decent and usable in that format is both time intensive and the end product simply wouldn't function in the same way the PRD does. If we were to release such a product, we'd want it to be as up to snuff as possible.

I would pay a premium for such a Kindle formatted Pathfinder RPG line of ebooks. Briss and magnifying the PDFs only get you so far. We need a true Kindle experience for Pathfinder. This would give Paizo yet another leg up on WoTC (my gut tells me they are working up something special for 5th Edition).

As of now, we do not plan to release anything from our products for the Kindle specifically (you can find much of our reasoning in this thread). If this were to happen, it would be in ePub format sold directly from us, or the iTunes store (where we currently sell ePub versions of the Pathfinder Tales line).


My friends suggested www.enworld.org to me. Not shabby.

Liberty's Edge

Chris Lambertz wrote:
If this were to happen, it would be in ePub format sold directly from us, or the iTunes store (where we currently sell ePub versions of the Pathfinder Tales line).

Since it's easy to convert an ePub document to work on my Kindle, I would buy it in an instantant at hard cover price!

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DM Barcas wrote:
My new Kindle Fire works really well with the PDFs, as well as the PRD loaded straight from the website.

I bought the DX specifically for the larger screen so reading PDFs would be easier. However, without the multi-touch magnification one is left with cropping PDFs and using the very poor magnification tool.


Hawkwing wrote:


I have just registered this link to an epub on the Paizo Community Use register

http://sites.google.com/site/pathfindersrdepub/epub

I am happy to take the file down if it offends Paizo Publishing

Brilliant! Thanks converted to Mobi for Kindle and FANTASTIC!!

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