Cavaliers' Mounts and GM's Permission


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Sovereign Court 5/5

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I've perused the PFS playbook but I don't have my own copy yet and so I'm turning to you good forumites for an answer I can't currently find.

Can a cavalier use a mount besides a horse or camel in organized play? APG says a cavalier potentially can with a GM's permission (and probably some handle animal checks).

So where do I stand as a new cavalier? Does a GM have the authority to give "GM approval" in organized play? If so, do I have to get approval from each new GM I may happen to meet? (and keep a copy of a version of horse/camel mount in case one says no)

Furthermore what of the UC beastrider archetype? I can give up heavy armor to get what the basic cavalier gets anyway, without the caveat of "GM approval". Because of the existance of this archetype, I can easily forsee a GM saying no to any special mount without taking the archetype (and its extra limitations imposed). Is that what the intended purpose?

Many thanks!

Liberty's Edge 4/5

What you are looking for is the Additional Resources page.

It lists what is legal, and any options available for things like Cavalier mounts, and what is legal from Ultimate Combat:

For Cavalier mounts, it was included in the previous (3.0.3) version of the Guide, but is in the process of being moved to the PFS FAQ.

For mounts, at this time, you will find that only horse and camel will be allowed, until and unless the FAQ entry changes it again.

For beastrider, it appears to be legal, and only really kicks in at 4th level.

Sovereign Court 5/5

First of all thanks for the response.

However at risk of sounding difficult or obtuse, I don't see where those resources are saying what you say they're saying.

A thread in the GM forum about the 'pig incident at gen con' however was very enlightening. Although my take-home lesson learned is nonstandard mounts are simply hit or miss depending on what GM you get.

I'm not looking at how to twist the rules, heck I figure 90% of adventures are written in such a way that you'll never get to make use of a mount anyway :) I'm more curious about the role of DM approval in PFS... which it seems is basically hit or miss :}

Tangental forum question: I've been looking at the messageboard settings off and on for a couple days and I'm just not smart enough to figure out how to post as my PFS character.. you know like with the green name? :) Can anyone throw me a bone on that one? :(


This came up a few times before, unless its been changed the FAQ stated you may only use the listed mounts ( Horse and camel) but as was pointed out, the beastrider is allowed. So that is the only way you can have a mount other then those two.

Sovereign Court 5/5

My best advice is this: stick to the rules and the issue won't come up. As far as "GM rulings", the campaign manager at Paizo is the GM. Because of this, the rules are much strichter than a home game For the purposes of PFS, if you would like an alternate mount, then take the archetype. I'm not arguing one way or another as far as the pig thread, but just telling you the safest and most consistent way to go ;)

As far as posting, just make your PFS character from you "My Account" page, and then when posting there should be a little drop down menu to the bottom left of the text box that you can select your "speaker" from.

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Dessio Pumpkinbane wrote:

First of all thanks for the response.

However at risk of sounding difficult or obtuse, I don't see where those resources are saying what you say they're saying.

A thread in the GM forum about the 'pig incident at gen con' however was very enlightening. Although my take-home lesson learned is nonstandard mounts are simply hit or miss depending on what GM you get.

I'm not looking at how to twist the rules, heck I figure 90% of adventures are written in such a way that you'll never get to make use of a mount anyway :) I'm more curious about the role of DM approval in PFS... which it seems is basically hit or miss :}

Tangental forum question: I've been looking at the messageboard settings off and on for a couple days and I'm just not smart enough to figure out how to post as my PFS character.. you know like with the green name? :) Can anyone throw me a bone on that one? :(

You are welcome, we all try to help out.

Right now, those resources do not say anything, because the rules were in the old v3.03 Guide, but are being moved into the FAQ, when Mark get a chance, as they only apply to a small subset of characters. I would suspect that the FAQ will be updated "soon", but it depends on whether Mark managed to avoid whatever bug was being passed around at GenCon, when he manages to catch up on his sleep, and how his accumulated workload from the time away from the office looks.

Small Cavaliers are much more likely to be able to make use of their mounts than Medium Cavaliers are. And I hope we can agree not to discuss, or even mention ever again, Druids who transform into Dire Tigers. ;)

And, as mentioned, you should see a drop down box at the left bottom of the text entry box for your posts with all your registered PC names, as well as your actual account name. You can even, from the My Account page, click on the EDIT button to the right of where it says MESSAGEBOARD SETTINGS, and change your default alias. I use my primary PC's name, not my account ID, usually, although he is getting closer to retirement (10th level).

Sovereign Court 5/5

Thanks again for all the helpful support :)

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