Additional resources page updated too. Heirloom Weapon info is there.
Cant download it on my phone. Some reason the Piazo download system isnt compatible with my phone. Any other way to view it or cam someone email it to me?
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this wording change is even more ambiguous now
Average Party Level
In order to determine which subtier a mixed-level group
of PCs should play in, you must determine the group’s
average party level (APL). You should always round
this number down. In addition, because encounters
are designed with four players in mind, if there are
six or more players at the table, add +1 to the APL. For
example, if a table consists of six players, two of whom
have 4th-level characters and four of whom have 5th-level
characters, the group’s APL is 6th (divide 28 total levels by
six players, round up, and add +1 to the final result).
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Change for upgrading composite bows (allowed the last time I read the earlier guides, and much discussed/maligned):
A mundane item can not be upgraded to masterwork, nor can non-magical aspects of equipment be upgraded (such as the strength rating on a composite bow).
For me, I'm okay with the change as it's rather weird to think about gluing new strips of material to buff up an existing bow (at least without it actually costing a lot of gold).
On the other hand, with the new spell that can turn a standard item into masterwork for the appropriate GP cost, I'd actually like to see the first part of the sentence removed. Of course, on reading the Spells sections it's unclear if that spell is actually allowed or not. The "Any spell cast by a PC during the course of a scenario that is still active at the end of a scenario ends when the scenario does." obviously keeps a party member from doing this, but one could use the Spellcasting Services section to have an NPC accomplish the same thing. It already includes spells such as Make Whole that are instantaneous but apparently last after the scenario.
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On the other hand, with the new spell that can turn a standard item into masterwork for the appropriate GP cost, I'd actually like to see the first part of the sentence removed. Of course, on reading the Spells sections it's unclear if that spell is actually allowed or not. The "Any spell cast by a PC during the course of a scenario that is still active at the end of a scenario ends when the scenario does." obviously keeps a party member from doing this, but one could use the Spellcasting Services section to have an NPC accomplish the same thing. It already includes spells such as Make Whole that are instantaneous but apparently last after the scenario.
Yeah. I wonder about spells that have permanent effects too, other than the spell permanency which is obviously banned. You would think that mend or make whole would last but I am not sure. The statement is pretty cut and dry. All spells end at scenario end.
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I am glad they have made the Tier rules clearer. My GM can no longer ban playing down to make a table.
However, it seems that they removed the one sub-tier up or down limit. This is understandable with the new lvls for tiers, but we are still playing older scenarios in which there are three sub-tiers per tier. This means that a lvl 1 player can play in the sub-tier 6-7 of a tier 1-7 scenario as long as the APL is correct.
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Got it to download!
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Another noticeable change
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Under Religion - Characters may elect to worship an evil god, but must always be within one alignment step of their chosen deity.
Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.
I know a few people are going to be unhappy about that.
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Just noticed (see it was above, but I missed it) --they removed the whole animals and companions section from the organized play guide...I wonder if this was a mistake on their part or if this means we can now have multiple animals in a scenario and animals come trained as per the core rulebook, since nothing's preventing it?
This section (as well as that on poisons) will be moved whole-cloth from the last version of the guide to include them to the Pathfinder Society FAQ. In an effort to keep the rules document that all players and GMs are expected to have printed and at the table with them as concise as possible, we chose to remove these rather long and tedious sections and move them somewhere that only players for whom they are relevant need to reference them.
I'm at Gen Con already setting up, but the FAQ will be priority number 1 when I get back to Seattle next week. In the meantime, if there are errors or omissions in the Guide or you feel something is unclear, please flag it as an FAQ and it will show up in the FAQ queue for me when I get to that after Gen Con's over.
Thanks everyone!
I'm kind of miffed, because my half-orc druid/fighter worships Gorum (since well, she's a half-orc and a fighter) and I really don't want to change her alignment from Neutral Good. Nothing in her class says she has to be one alignment away from her god. But I guess that I will have to change her alignment to Neutral or Chaotic Neutral to avoid getting guff about it from GMs.
Honeslty just say you are CG, which is one step. If you are a die hard devotee of Gorum and not just someone who prays to him before battle but someone who really lives his life by Gorum's teaching. well then you most likely were not every really NG anyhow.
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Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.
That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity. Unless you're a heretic, and since that type of player choice should probably come with some in-world repercussions that are beyond the scope of a massive org play campaign to address on a player by player level... yeah, it's a good thing.
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Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity.
'Oops' was a poor choice of expression on my part. Maybe "Hey!" would have been better. It's not a rules thing I'm very passionate about one way or the other.
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Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity. Unless you're a heretic, and since that type of player choice should probably come with some in-world repercussions that are beyond the scope of a massive org play campaign to address on a player by player level... yeah, it's a good thing.
Doesn't that make issues for Hellknight Paladins (who, regardless of PFS, you've said exist in-setting)?
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The Silver Crusade Trait: A Sure Thing states it grants a +2 on an attack vs evil aligned creatures.
Is that a +2 on the attack roll, the damage roll or both?
A Sure Thing: Once per day, you gain a +2 bonus on a single attack against an evil-aligned creature. If the creature is not evil-aligned, this ability is wasted with no benefit.
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Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity. Unless you're a heretic, and since that type of player choice should probably come with some in-world repercussions that are beyond the scope of a massive org play campaign to address on a player by player level... yeah, it's a good thing.
I'm pretty sure that the heretic archetype is allowed in PFS :P.
In any case, by "within one step", I read it more along the same lines as the inquisitor rules, whereby you must be within one step of your deity along either the good-evil axis, or the law-chaos axis. So anything but directly opposed is fine, including LG followers of Asmodeus and Cayden Cailean.
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Doesn't that make issues for Hellknight Paladins (who, regardless of PFS, you've said exist in-setting)?Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity. Unless you're a heretic, and since that type of player choice should probably come with some in-world repercussions that are beyond the scope of a massive org play campaign to address on a player by player level... yeah, it's a good thing.
Not at all. Paladins are lawful good. They can still be Hellknights, because not all Hellknights worship Asmodeus. In fact, I'd say most Hellknights do NOT worship Asmodeus. Paladin Hellknights would generally probably worship Iomedae, Torag, or Abadar, I would venture.
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Oops, no more paladins of Cayden Cayleen (however you spell that) or Asmodeous.That's not an oops at all, in my opinion. :-)
That said... if you're playing your alignment "right," then you're probably already within one step of your deity. Unless you're a heretic, and since that type of player choice should probably come with some in-world repercussions that are beyond the scope of a massive org play campaign to address on a player by player level... yeah, it's a good thing.
I'm pretty sure that the heretic archetype is allowed in PFS :P.
In any case, by "within one step", I read it more along the same lines as the inquisitor rules, whereby you must be within one step of your deity along either the good-evil axis, or the law-chaos axis. So anything but directly opposed is fine, including LG followers of Asmodeus and Cayden Cailean.
In which case if you have the heretic archetype, that would be fine.
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Paladin Hellknights would generally probably worship Iomedae, Torag, or Abadar, I would venture.According to Faiths of Purity there are virtually no human paladins of Torag.
So, are you implying that ONLY humans can be Paladins... or even more specifically, only human paladins can become hellknights? tsk, tsk. Even though Dwarves may have racial penalty to charisma, they're not any less a good choice for becoming a Paladin as any other races ;)
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The Lantern Lodge "Weapon Style" trait will be problematic, I think.
Weapon Style You gain proficiency in one weapon normally used by monks, such as kama, nunchaku, sai or shuriken.
It's a free proficiency feat, and is ill defined. Are those items the limit of the list, or should we expect sorcerers, bards, and inquisitors running around with temple swords?
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Woah... They changed the requirements to get your 5th star, I am assuming it will not be retroactive.
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Four-star GMs who have run 50 special or exclusive scenarios (over the course of their careers) are awarded a fifth star for their dedication to the campaign.
Edit: I only have 48 more to go!!! ;)
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Woah... They changed the requirements to get your 5th star, I am assuming it will not be retroactive.
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Four-star GMs who have run 50 special or exclusive scenarios (over the course of their careers) are awarded a fifth star for their dedication to the campaign.
Edit: I only have 48 more to go!!! ;)
No stars were harmed in the making of this rule. In other words, to quote the guide, I'm still the cream of the crop. ;-)
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So, are you implying that ONLY humans can be Paladins... or even more specificallyNo, but in Imperial Cheliax a non-human Hellknight would be a rare sight I would expect.
Not that rare; there are non human Hellknights. There are even centaur Hellknights. A dwarf Hellknight isn't unlikely... but to be honest, a paladin of Torag among the Hellknights probably is. In fact, I suspect that most paladin Hellknights don't worship specific deities; unlike clerics, paladins don't have to proclaim themselves to a deity.
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Maybe I am being a bit dense, but what is the "Pathfinder Society Field Guide"? Apparently every player is supposed to have a copy.
the new guide for Pathfinders, upadted (kind of) from 'Seeker of secrets"
check it out here: Pathfinder Field Guide.
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New book coming out tomorrow. It replaces/supplements Seekers of Secrets (which until now you were supposed to be familiar with instead.)
Seriously?
I only bought Seekers of Secrets because it was part of the core assumption and haven't used that (apart from putting one piece of gear on my PC's character sheet that he has never used) and now I have to buy and read another book?
As far as "required" it's really only required for a GM to own/bring it, but you will benefit greatly from doing so as a player. As a player, you should at the VERY least endeavor to read it over a few times.
Well I was looking at starting GMing PFS, but this will put me back another few weeks :(
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Why not? if a sorcerer with skin for armor +0 BAB, wants to charge into combat, that's his choice. Most monk weapons you might notice, aren't exactly uber powered types.
True, but an enlarged strength 18 boreal bloodline sorcerer is going to appreciate being able to add a d8 19-20/x2 tripping weapon to his weapon list without using a feat. 'Course, maybe my problem is with the temple sword, which is an uncharacteristically good monk weapon.
I would just like to make sure that nobody starts building a PFS character around something that's going to be severely altered later (such as was the case with Heirloom Weapon, which was far too good to start). Traits are supposed to be half feats; this would seem to be in the category of full feat (i.e. Exotic Weapon Proficiency).
