Pathfinder, still king of Amazon sales


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Hi pthfinders,

Pathfinder is still the #1 gamey sold on Amazon. I'd like to take a moment to congratulate everyone, game company and community, for this achievement. I think it bodes well for Pathfinders future that the core book is the highest seller. And the core book is like 3-4 years old already!

booger=boy

Shadow Lodge

Yeah, the Amazon charts are a poor indicator on any given week but when the same product is in the top two for two years running it says something pretty powerful.


booger=boy wrote:

Hi pthfinders,

Pathfinder is still the #1 gamey sold on Amazon. I'd like to take a moment to congratulate everyone, game company and community, for this achievement. I think it bodes well for Pathfinders future that the core book is the highest seller. And the core book is like 3-4 years old already!

booger=boy

The core book is not yet two. Still, an impressive accomplishment.


Congratulations are in order.
Does this mean that Pathfinder is outselling D&D?


I don't know what it means for sure. The amazon top 100 list is startling at moments. Last time I looked there were 2nd edition dnd products outselling 4th edition stuff. That struck me as weird.

But... a Pathfinder product always seems to be number 1 when I look. Which is better than being outsold by 2nd edition dnd...

booger=boy

Liberty's Edge

booger=boy wrote:

I don't know what it means for sure. The amazon top 100 list is startling at moments. Last time I looked there were 2nd edition dnd products outselling 4th edition stuff. That struck me as weird.

But... a Pathfinder product always seems to be number 1 when I look. Which is better than being outsold by 2nd edition dnd...

booger=boy

Actually that's not to weird at all.

From the sounds of it not to many people were happy with 4 edition so maybe went old school instead of sticking with 3.5 or going to Pathfinder.


thenorthman wrote:
booger=boy wrote:

I don't know what it means for sure. The amazon top 100 list is startling at moments. Last time I looked there were 2nd edition dnd products outselling 4th edition stuff. That struck me as weird.

But... a Pathfinder product always seems to be number 1 when I look. Which is better than being outsold by 2nd edition dnd...

booger=boy

Actually that's not to weird at all.

From the sounds of it not to many people were happy with 4 edition so maybe went old school instead of sticking with 3.5 or going to Pathfinder.

What it probably means, if it means anything, is that game stores don't sell 2e stuff so people HAVE to go to Amazon or eBay to get it.

The real question is whether Pathfinder is competitive with 4e in game stores. Every time that comes up people vigorously defend both products.


Swordsmasher wrote:

Congratulations are in order.

Does this mean that Pathfinder is outselling D&D?

It's really hard to tell. In the bricks-and-mortar retail hobby channel, D&D4 outsells Pathfinder by some. In the bricks-and-mortar bookstore channel, it's my understanding that D&D4 outsells Pathfinder. On Amazon, Pathfinder appears to outsell D&D4. Pathfinder subscriptions are their own sales channel. And so on.

The way I see it, D&D4 is probably somewhat outselling Pathfinder overall, but not by a lot.

Shadow Lodge

Well, as far as retail hobby stores go, it all depends on where you are. I know quite a few places where PF is neck-and-neck or even outsells 4e (In fact, I haven't actually found a store yet out of the ones I've been to and talked to their owners where 4e was outselling)


Swordsmasher wrote:

Congratulations are in order.

Does this mean that Pathfinder is outselling D&D?

Maybe but keep in mind D&D as multiple versions of the phb plus essentials and DDI. That spreads out sales a bit more than the Pathfinder core does. Still, the Pathfinder player base seems to be expanding, not sure the same can be said for 4e.


The Forgotten wrote:
Pathfinder player base seems to be expanding, not sure the same can be said for 4e.

Depends on the area.

Where I live there are quite a few Brick and Mortar Stores that host D&D Encounters or whatever they're called, no Pathfinder stuff that I know of game-store wise.

The D&D Encounters are pretty popular in getting new players into the game.

Granted, most of the Pathfinder stuff has been more grass-roots in the sense that I started with some old 3.5/3.0 players that wanted to try out Pathfinder.

Liberty's Edge

People still use stores?!

When the price tag difference between store and online is usually at least £10 in the UK, store buying just isn't a viable option.

But in my area I did notice a Pathfinder shelf slowly building up at the gaming store, it used to just be DnD, but then the Pathfinder Core Book appeared, then a Beatiary, then an APG and the stuff seems to be selling.


Asteldian Caliskan wrote:

People still use stores?!

When the price tag difference between store and online is usually at least £10 in the UK, store buying just isn't a viable option.

I think it depends on what you're buying. For some, a good part of the value of an FLGS is the ability to browse, or as a place to hold a game. If you're only after the book, then yeah, the FLGS can be a tough sell.

Silver Crusade

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Also, this.


Gorbax,

thanks for posting that link. It even has the CEO of this blessed company saying that they have more market share than dnd. I wonder if they get drunk when they start seeing their figures go up.

It kinda fits in with my observation that I keep on seeing the core book at the top of Amazonas top sellers. The CEO said that they are selling more "CORE" than ever before!

booger=boy

Contributor

Removed a post. Complaints about other boards should be posted there, not here.

Grand Lodge

4e used to better in the shop I work in but then we stopped being able to order core products for stock (certainly in the UK). However we have no issue getting PF stuff in and Paizo actually have new releases which tends to help get it noticed on the shelf.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
booger=boy wrote:

I don't know what it means for sure. The amazon top 100 list is startling at moments. Last time I looked there were 2nd edition dnd products outselling 4th edition stuff. That struck me as weird.

But... a Pathfinder product always seems to be number 1 when I look. Which is better than being outsold by 2nd edition dnd...

booger=boy

Well honestly i think a huge impact on 4e book sales is their DDI. I mean for the cost of 3-4 books you can subscribe to a years worth the DDI and get access to everything. If i played 4e on a regular bases I would sure use the DDI over books for cost reasons alone. Not to mention the errata.

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