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The hexcrafter archetype of the magus adds all of the curse spells in the game to the magus' spell list.
However, many of these spells are shared by different classes, and the archetype is silent as to what spell levels each one should be considered when ported over to the magus spell list.
Is bestow curse a 3rd-level spell (like a cleric), or is it a 4th-level spell (like a wizard)?
Since magi can only cast up to 6th-level spells, should we assume you use the lowest spell level shown in the spell description?
What's the RAW on this?
APPENDIX to the rescue !
hehehe flick to page 251
lists new descriptors for old spells :)
Curse: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, brand, brand
(greater, crafter’s curse, cup of dust, feast of ashes,
geas (lesser), geas/quest, ill omen, mark of justice, nature’s
exile, oracle’s burden, rest eternal.
As for level go with lowest not being a full caster already puts them behind power wise
APPENDIX to the rescue !
hehehe flick to page 251
lists new descriptors for old spells :)
Curse: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, brand, brand
(greater, crafter’s curse, cup of dust, feast of ashes,
geas (lesser), geas/quest, ill omen, mark of justice, nature’s
exile, oracle’s burden, rest eternal.As for level go with lowest not being a full caster already puts them behind power wise
Yeah, I had found that on my own. It's the missing spell levels that I want to know about.
Yeah, I had found that on my own. It's the missing spell levels that I want to know about.APPENDIX to the rescue !
hehehe flick to page 251
lists new descriptors for old spells :)
Curse: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, brand, brand
(greater, crafter’s curse, cup of dust, feast of ashes,
geas (lesser), geas/quest, ill omen, mark of justice, nature’s
exile, oracle’s burden, rest eternal.As for level go with lowest not being a full caster already puts them behind power wise
unless I'm mistaken nothing on that list is over 6th level , considering Magus can add wiz spells of the equivalent level thing I think its a fair call to use wiz/cleric levels as the transfer level.
unless I'm mistaken nothing on that list is over 6th level , considering Magus can add wiz spells of the equivalent level thing I think its a fair call to use wiz/cleric levels as the transfer level.Yeah, I had found that on my own. It's the missing spell levels that I want to know about.APPENDIX to the rescue !
hehehe flick to page 251
lists new descriptors for old spells :)
Curse: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, brand, brand
(greater, crafter’s curse, cup of dust, feast of ashes,
geas (lesser), geas/quest, ill omen, mark of justice, nature’s
exile, oracle’s burden, rest eternal.As for level go with lowest not being a full caster already puts them behind power wise
Except not all the spells come from the sor/wiz lists. What's more, many of them share multiple class lists, with no explanation as to which one to use (case and point BESTOW CURSE).
I personally want to think that you go with the lowest possible since the magus is a 6 spell level caster, but i am hitting the FAQ button in the first post.
Except not all the spells come from the sor/wiz lists. What's more, many of them share multiple class lists, with no explanation as to which one to use (case and point BESTOW CURSE).unless I'm mistaken nothing on that list is over 6th level , considering Magus can add wiz spells of the equivalent level thing I think its a fair call to use wiz/cleric levels as the transfer level.Yeah, I had found that on my own. It's the missing spell levels that I want to know about.APPENDIX to the rescue !
hehehe flick to page 251
lists new descriptors for old spells :)
Curse: bestow curse, blindness/deafness, brand, brand
(greater, crafter’s curse, cup of dust, feast of ashes,
geas (lesser), geas/quest, ill omen, mark of justice, nature’s
exile, oracle’s burden, rest eternal.As for level go with lowest not being a full caster already puts them behind power wise
as for bestow curse as suggested I recommend going with cleric level. As for other spells just pick the level from the equivalent levels available, which is basically whatever is the lowest.
Sure it could use a FAQ to tighten it up, but I can't see any way taking the lowest level option would cause problems, in which case just go with lowest option available.
I would assume you use the level that the Witch gets it at, since the whole concept is based on the Witch. If the witch doesn't get it, then I have no clue.
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I would assume you use the level that the Witch gets it at, since the whole concept is based on the Witch. If the witch doesn't get it, then I have no clue.
Just started playing a hexcrafter and I think what Cheapy says makes a lot of sense. Only a couple of the spells mentioned above aren't on the witch list. This is what I'm going with at the moment;
0 - brand
1 – ill omen, crafter's curse
2 – blindness/deafness, feast of ashes, disfiguring touch
3 – bestow curse, cup of dust, nature's exile
4 – lesser geas, curse of magic negation, greater brand
5 – mark of justice, rest eternal, major curse, curse of disgust
6 - geas
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I would assume you use the level that the Witch gets it at, since the whole concept is based on the Witch. If the witch doesn't get it, then I have no clue.Just started playing a hexcrafter and I think what Cheapy says makes a lot of sense. Only a couple of the spells mentioned above aren't on the witch list. This is what I'm going with at the moment;
0 - brand
1 – ill omen, crafter's curse
2 – blindness/deafness, feast of ashes, disfiguring touch
3 – bestow curse, cup of dust, nature's exile
4 – lesser geas, curse of magic negation, greater brand
5 – mark of justice, rest eternal, major curse, curse of disgust
6 - geas
that looks pretty good to me
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that looks pretty good to meI would assume you use the level that the Witch gets it at, since the whole concept is based on the Witch. If the witch doesn't get it, then I have no clue.Just started playing a hexcrafter and I think what Cheapy says makes a lot of sense. Only a couple of the spells mentioned above aren't on the witch list. This is what I'm going with at the moment;
0 - brand
1 – ill omen, crafter's curse
2 – blindness/deafness, feast of ashes, disfiguring touch
3 – bestow curse, cup of dust, nature's exile
4 – lesser geas, curse of magic negation, greater brand
5 – mark of justice, rest eternal, major curse, curse of disgust
6 - geas
Man this book has some sloppy writing. Any developer clarification on this yet? Need an update over at the Hero Lab forums so the HL data file can be clarified.
FAQed ...
Mmm... thread necromancy.
FAQ-i'd.
I'm very interested in finding out what was intended. I figure it's the lowest spell level. Because I'm a player and that's how we roll.
Apologies in advance for the necro, but the first post in this thread is marked as "Answered in the FAQ" but I can't find anything in the FAQ that answers the question. Where was this answered officially?
Has to be Witch as base, nothing else makes sense.
Which ones are not on the Witch list? And more importantly why aren't they!
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Apologies in advance for the necro, but the first post in this thread is marked as "Answered in the FAQ" but I can't find anything in the FAQ that answers the question. Where was this answered officially?
I think that was before the No Answer Needed and Question Unclear functions of the FAQ were devised.
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Has to be Witch as base, nothing else makes sense.
Which ones are not on the Witch list? And more importantly why aren't they!
Curses aren't unique to the witch class. One such spell which isn't on the witch list is Brand, but that only appears on the inquisitor list, so it's obvious what level the hexcrafter casts it at. I think you could also make the case that the hexcrafter casts these spells at the wizard level because the magus class itself is essentially a fighter/wizard hybrid. Even though it's not an official source, I think it's worth mentioning that Hero Lab uses the wizard levels.
More importantly, the whole reason why I bumped this thread was because the OP is marked as answered in the FAQ when it doesn't appear to be.