Obligatory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4
But yes, it's possible to build a vigilante detective hero as a bard. If you're trying to keep the stoicness of Batman choosing a bardic performance might be difficult, but spell selection can focus on misdirection and interrogation - both things a bard can do well.
The skill points are there for being a wealthy playboy (diplomacy, bluff, etc) as well as an accomplished physical athlete.
Gadgets are a bit harder but that's more of what you select as the character.
Batman is not a Bard he is simply a Monk/Alchemist/Ninja. I did a 25 point buy because this is a super-hero we're talking about. Then added +2 to Intelligence for being human. Then added +1 to Dex at 4th level and +1 to Charisma at 8th level.
We have one level of Monk because of the time he spent training with monks and his ability to fight unarmed.
Alchemist reflects his ability to create gadgets.
Finally, he has 4 levels of ninja to show his ability to stealth and fade into the shadows. Not to mention his wide range of knowledge and skills.
Str 15 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 16 Wis 12 Cha 14
Alignment: Lawful Good
Monk 1/ Alchemist 5/ Ninja 4
I feel like a detective bard can be made to be very batman LIKE, but not batman. Lack of unarmed combat, and the whole performance and magic thing seems to me to be a dealbreaker. Batman doesnt perform and he doesnt cast spells.
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I figured this bard would be the stage performing type. But using the performance: Oratory, you can acieve a lot of effects. A rousing speech about not letting the evil of this world to win or cowing your foes with the horrid details about what you did to the last guy you caught. I also figured spells would be chosen to enhance self (Stat Buff Spells or Cures) or spells to add to the mystique (Blur, darkness)...
I have always considered Bard the best Ninja class. Batman fits well.
I generally liken Wizards to Batman due to "if he has time to prepare, Batman can beat anyone." I would say that Batman would also work pretty well as an Inquisitor, as they're similar to Bards but a little more inclined toward shaking people down.
Lack of unarmed combat, and the whole performance and magic thing seems to me to be a dealbreaker. Batman doesnt perform and he doesnt cast spells.
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The only performance Batman does is intimidation and that's what every character can do. Bards support their allies and that's not quite Batman's way.
I feel like a detective bard can be made to be very batman LIKE, but not batman. Lack of unarmed combat, and the whole performance and magic thing seems to me to be a dealbreaker. Batman doesnt perform and he doesnt cast spells.
Batman not perform? He's a consummate actor, and he also does a mean Batusi.
Now, Joker, he could be a bard. A Chaotic Evil Bard.
Another way to intemperate Batman would be a Cavalier/Rogue. He is the Dark Knight after all.
Bard or Rogue works well, but isnt a Shadowdancer what he does well?
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Bard or Rogue works well, but isnt a Shadowdancer what he does well?
:P
Point. But can you really see Batman as an accomplished dancer?
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Batman is not a Bard he is simply a Monk/Alchemist/Ninja. I did a 25 point buy because this is a super-hero we're talking about. Then added +2 to Intelligence for being human. Then added +1 to Dex at 4th level and +1 to Charisma at 8th level.
We have one level of Monk because of the time he spent training with monks and his ability to fight unarmed.
Alchemist reflects his ability to create gadgets.
Finally, he has 4 levels of ninja to show his ability to stealth and fade into the shadows. Not to mention his wide range of knowledge and skills.
Str 15 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 16 Wis 12 Cha 14
Alignment: Lawful Good
Monk 1/ Alchemist 5/ Ninja 4
Needs two levels of Monk... the Batman would definitely have Evasion!
Point. But can you really see Batman as an accomplished dancer?Point. But can you really see Batman as an accomplished dancer?Bard or Rogue works well, but isnt a Shadowdancer what he does well?
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2 ranks in dance, yeah, he is a rich person. Going to ballroom dances and all with a person of his status, yes. Stealth can also be a very graceful thing.
Obligatory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4But yes, it's possible to build a vigilante detective hero as a bard. If you're trying to keep the stoicness of Batman choosing a bardic performance might be difficult,
Perform (quiet brooding)
2 ranks in dance, yeah, he is a rich person. Going to ballroom dances and all with a person of his status, yes. Stealth can also be a very graceful thing.Point. But can you really see Batman as an accomplished dancer?Bard or Rogue works well, but isnt a Shadowdancer what he does well?
:P
Let's also not forget that many martial arts are often compared to dancing.
Let's also not forget that many martial arts are often compared to dancing.2 ranks in dance, yeah, he is a rich person. Going to ballroom dances and all with a person of his status, yes. Stealth can also be a very graceful thing.Point. But can you really see Batman as an accomplished dancer?Bard or Rogue works well, but isnt a Shadowdancer what he does well?
:P
Very true.
He needs disguise and performance (orate)for when he is Matches Malone and other undercover alter egos..and a Cloak of the Bat off course.
Leadership..Robin as a Cohort and his followers would be Gotham Cops
Batman doesn't sing, Batman doesn't dance, Batman doesn't play an instrument, so how could he be a Bard?Before most of you raise your torches and pitchforks. Think about it. From Levels 1 through 10. Human Bard. Can it be done on 20 point buy? Should it be done?
You are thinking of the 3.5 bard. PF bards don't need to do any of that.
Also, Archeaologist bard archetype fits well, I think.
Batman doesn't sing, Batman doesn't dance, Batman doesn't play an instrument, so how could he be a Bard?
Batman does too sing!
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