Stunning Shot + Dastardly Finish = Auto-Win?


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 2


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Automatically stun someone, no save, then deliver a coup de grace. Classic one-two punch. Even at 19th-level, this is powerful.


Someone else would have to deliver the Coup de grace.


Kierato wrote:
Someone else would have to deliver the Coup de grace.

No.

Round 1: You stun foe on your turn. on his turn, he is stunned.
Round 2: He's technically still stunned until his turn, so you coup de grace.

Slam, bang, pow! That's all she wrote.

-The Beast

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.


xXxTheBeastxXx wrote:
Kierato wrote:
Someone else would have to deliver the Coup de grace.

No.

Round 1: You stun foe on your turn. on his turn, he is stunned.
Round 2: He's technically still stunned until his turn, so you coup de grace.

Slam, bang, pow! That's all she wrote.

-The Beast

He is stunned for one round, meaning at the beginning of your turn he is no longer stunned. Otherwise, it would be one and a half rounds (or some other fraction).


Ross Byers wrote:
Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.

That's what Dastardly Finish is for, though. Also, as pointed out, Stunning Fist has a save, while Stunning Shot does not.

The Exchange

kixor wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.
That's what Dastardly Finish is for, though. Also, as pointed out, Stunning Fist has a save, while Stunning Shot does not.

what's the prerequisite for dastardly finish? something like +5d6 sneak attack?

interesting combination, by the way.


Whited Sepulcher wrote:
kixor wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.
That's what Dastardly Finish is for, though. Also, as pointed out, Stunning Fist has a save, while Stunning Shot does not.
what's the prerequisite for dastardly finish? something like +5d6 sneak attack?

Correct, meaning you cannot do it alone for multiple reasons.

EDIT: Coup de Grace allows a save, no guaranteed instant kill.


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Oh yeah. Forgot about the prerequisite. Guess it's only available to epic characters than. :P


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kixor wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.
That's what Dastardly Finish is for, though. Also, as pointed out, Stunning Fist has a save, while Stunning Shot does not.

It will soon enough, just like other Abilities that should have a have are going to have one (targetting and such I'm sure)

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