
terraleon |

Quote:It makes no sense. Sensibly, if i can't complete a project i look for someone else to finish it for me. In this case, the product is done and the guy is just sitting on it and also telling anyone trying to help him, directly or indirectly, to go shove it.Terr, you keep going on and on about "shove it," which i said, what part of the "indirectly" as i stated, quoted here, is unclear?
If someone never responds to you, and occasionally stops by with apologies while still not responding to you, how is that any different than saying "shove it?"
It's not the "indirectly" portion which was unclear, it's the "telling."
Absence of communication does not tell you to "shove it." Failing to communicate says there's something else going on there, and that's all. You're injecting meaning into the silence, suggesting a tone without support. As far as I can tell, all you have is an absence of communication-- to which you infer a particular response. That's what I wanted to clarify-- whether or not there was a response I was unaware of which would demonstrate the tone you suggested, and there isn't.
Could your interpretation be accurate? Yes. Is it also possible there is something else going on which prevents his response? Yes. Do I disagree with his choice to remain silent? Certainly, but don't assume you know the subtext of his choice without knowing the basis for it.
-Ben.

Coltaine |

What basis? If he can post here, multiple time with "promises" (i.e, he is alive but busy yadayada...will be out in "april," "june," "end of summer," while NOT responding to multiple emails he has received, then what exactly would this "basis" be other than willfully choosing to ignore? Can you provide examples of what such a "basis" is, hypothetically, other than the willful choice of not responding?
I am absoultely injecting meaning to his silence; he chooses not to respond to people, he chooses not to refund money, and more importantly, he chooses not to communicate with people via a simple post here or there. Those are his choices, and his choices, and his silence, speak volumes. More importantly, he chooses to neglect and degrade the hundreds of hours of free work and favors that people who know him did for him out of the goodness of their hearts; i'd love to find any basis that justifies these actions over years; not days or even months.

terraleon |
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What basis? If he can post here, multiple time with "promises" (i.e, he is alive but busy yadayada...will be out in "april," "june," "end of summer," while NOT responding to multiple emails he has received, then what exactly would this "basis" be other than willfully choosing to ignore? Can you provide examples of what such a "basis" is, hypothetically, other than the willful choice of not responding?
A serious, long-term illness or injury suffered by oneself, a loved one or relative which demanded time, attention and resources-- possibly as a caregiver, might be one such basis. Do you know, with absolute certainty, that such a situation did not occur or is not ongoing? Life can throw some serious curves. In lieu of a response, I wait and give him the consideration to respond when he has a chance. It certainly doesn't cost me anything more than I've already spent.
I can't say what his reasons are. All I can say is that because I do not know his reasons, it becomes inappropriate for me to speculate or judge. I can either patiently wait or consider my expenditure an unfortunate lesson. Of course, his behavior influences my relationship with him but that's a personal matter between the two of us.
-Ben.

Sinvel Menter |

If I vanished pretty unexpectedly, I'd expect that someone would contact my wife asking what had happened. That is the angle that should be being taken. A prominent author has digitally vanished and isn't even responding to publisher e-mails. Disturbing. THAT should be investigated.
Problem is, he has not vanished. He will pop up once every quarter with a cryptic excuse as to why it isn't finished. This has been going on for three freaking years!!
The real problem is that it IS practically finished and that he doesn't seem to think it is important enough to put in a week's worth of work to obligate his customers, whose money he already has.
I would be up for a lawsuit of some kind only in the hopes of getting his attention so that he would find it easier to finish the book (or just release it as it stands now in PDF).

Coltaine |

Coltaine wrote:I can't say what his reasons are. All I can say is that because I do not know his reasons, it becomes inappropriate for me to speculate or judge. I can either patiently wait or consider my expenditure an unfortunate lesson. Of course, his behavior influences my relationship with him but that's a personal matter between the two of us.
-Ben.
IT's called communication; none of those reasons have been communicated to anyone, including those he dumped the project on other than being "busy with work." A simple line here or anywhere saying; "going through personal issues, project on hold until further notice," would have gone a long way. It's like taking a year off from work without telling anyone; let's also not forget the myriad of various excuses bandied about by Nick since this project started.

Coltaine |

Here is a listing of various Logue excuses on this site, i am sure there were a few more like broken leg, writers block and such (posted on the sinister adventures site). Also, Nick had, for an extended period of time, assured us that RC close to completion, and then he sent us his "draft" which was not even half done, and raised all sorts of concerns. Here you go:
sorry the site is out of action! I am having some trouble getting it up and running and I'm also updating it for the endgame of Sinister as a sinking ship with just two products (and one wave of Indulgences left to come).
Those concerned about refunds - just email me at loguen@essex.ac.uk and I'll process those for you as quickly as possible - I'm slowly slogging my way through them all, but its a load of looking up order histories so its taking longer than I would have liked. Sorry for the delays on the repays! Shoot me an email and I will sort you all out! No refund left behind!Terribly sorry! Not sure why I haven't received these requests for reimbursements. Please try the following email and I'll process any refunds IMMEDIATELY (or at least within 24 hours).
Hi Everyone!
Sorry for being swallowed up for a week! My day job exploded last week in a HUGE way, but I think I finally fixed everything, and am able to settle into some Sinister work again now.First and foremost: Apologies to all you very patient and lovely Sinister fans. I know we've had enough trauma-drama with Sinister to flesh out ten full seasons of a bad t.v. show and my lack of publishing acumen along with enough life changes to confuse even me, has slowed the release of our big projects by AGES.
That said, RC is looking good for release very soon. My magic statblock checkers are hard at work making sure my math doesn't suck too much (it does believe me), and I am already working on the Pathfinder conversion of RC from the OGL it was originally written for.We are waiting on a couple of maps that I needed to make changes too, but beyond that we are closing up on the finish line.
Hope that update helps.LPJ: Thanks for the offer! I love your work and have no doubt you would do RC justice - however, for a bundle of reasons I can't hand it off. I appreciate the offer of help though, and I'll definitely email you if I think of a way you can help me get this puppy out the door faster. Mostly it comes down to me being tied up too often with my day job - which is ridiculously busy, if fun, and not realizing all the staggering challenges of putting out a book of the size and quality of RC. One reason its taking so long is that I want to make sure I do it RIGHT, and don't let my fans down. This is taking much longer than I expected, but I can't let expediency take one jot of awesomeness from RC.
Hey guys!
Sorry for the silence! I'm putting updates on my site, but I haven't been skulking around my favorite old haunt here at Paizo for a bit!
Quick update: I am feeling much better, I kicked bronchitis and it kicked me, but we've finally put it all behind us! ;-)Sadly, my wife sustained a head injury on Friday and I lost my weekend looking after her and going in and out of A&E (that's Brit for "Emergency Room"). She has a concussion, but she's feeling a little better now.
It shakes out to me losing a weekend of Sinister work though (that's my prime time for chipping away at projects). Just to keep you all updated.I've gotten to follow up with my cartographer and we are closer to getting our last few maps for RC, and things are looking firmer on a January release.
I did lose some time I intended to bring to bear on the next wave of Indulgences though, so we're behind a bit now there. Also, I lost the time I was going to use to finalize some blog posts for Sinister Minds and Sneak Peeks - expect to see them next weekend though!
Sorry for the delays!Layout is a rocking and rolling on Razor Coast! Thank ye gods!
Pre-order price for AGC will be around for awhile!was at a good friend's wedding all weekend, and then had some train trouble that ate a bunch of my time, and I'll be flying back to England tomorrow...
BUT! As soon as I get settled in the Jolly Ole again (Thursday night), I'll FINALLY throw up another Ebon Shroud blog post! Sorry for the delay!

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The real problem is that it IS practically finished and that he doesn't seem to think it is important enough to put in a week's worth of work to obligate his customers, whose money he already has.
I would be up for a lawsuit of some kind only in the hopes of getting
Yeah the part where poor Lou did the work instead of Nick for no reward is the worse in my opinion.
Kudos Lou. Write something, anything for Pathfinder, and i'll buy it for your trouble.

Paul Ryan |

Stereofm wrote:
Kudos Lou. Write something, anything for Pathfinder, and i'll buy it for your trouble.It's not Pathfinder, but this is an absolutely fantastic work by Lou Agresta and you can get it here.
-Ben.
Added to my cart, even though I'm not really interested in the system. Lou's work deserves support.
It's a shame how Nick's apparently self-destructed. I'm not expecting to see my pre-order money either. Why he can't just throw his paying customers a bone and release what he's got 'as is' I don't understand, given how things are going. I also recall him mentioning on his forums that he had a couple of Indulgences complete and two more in the works for free for the people who've paid him money, to make up for the delays. No sign of those either.

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Brian E. Harris wrote:Keep your eyes out for Lou's work on the Citadel of Pain adventure from Gaming Paper Adventures (out soon, I hope)!I wanted to be a patron, but alas, it was too late. :(
me too and i was seriously bummed out
Meh. I said I would give Nick until the end of school vacation. That's my line in the sand. After that perhaps a class-action lawsuit. Radavel? Any thoughts?
I'm in

terraleon |

Meh. I said I would give Nick until the end of school vacation. That's my line in the sand. After that perhaps a class-action lawsuit. Radavel? Any thoughts?
I would note that engaging in a lawsuit will force Nick not necessarily to work on RC, but rather retain counsel and spend resources dealing with litigation.
You might consider a "letter of intent," listing the participants and explaining your timetable to Nick before such action begins. Such a letter would demonstrate your commitment but give him a final opportunity to act-- working to complete the project, transfer responsibility to another party, or provide refunds.
-Ben.

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Patrick Curtin wrote:Meh. I said I would give Nick until the end of school vacation. That's my line in the sand. After that perhaps a class-action lawsuit. Radavel? Any thoughts?I would note that engaging in a lawsuit will force Nick not necessarily to work on RC, but rather retain counsel and spend resources dealing with litigation.
You might consider a "letter of intent," listing the participants and explaining your timetable to Nick before such action begins. Such a letter would demonstrate your commitment but give him a final opportunity to act-- working to complete the project, transfer responsibility to another party, or provide refunds.
-Ben.
That's actually a really good idea ...

mdt |

terraleon wrote:That's actually a really good idea ...Patrick Curtin wrote:Meh. I said I would give Nick until the end of school vacation. That's my line in the sand. After that perhaps a class-action lawsuit. Radavel? Any thoughts?I would note that engaging in a lawsuit will force Nick not necessarily to work on RC, but rather retain counsel and spend resources dealing with litigation.
You might consider a "letter of intent," listing the participants and explaining your timetable to Nick before such action begins. Such a letter would demonstrate your commitment but give him a final opportunity to act-- working to complete the project, transfer responsibility to another party, or provide refunds.
-Ben.
If anyone is going to do that, you should make sure you have the following :
A) Copies of any e-mail receipts he sent.
B) Print outs of his website if you have them (or can get them from the Wayback machine)
C) Printouts of his posts on Paizo forms.
If you do actually end up taking him to court, you'll have to prove the court has jurisdiction over him, which is hard on someone in another country. Showing he marketed and solicited funds in the US is your first step.
If you go that far, it is unlikely you will ever see the money. What is more likely to happen is you'll win a default judgement (because he probably won't bother to fly over or hire a lawyer to show up). Then when he ignores that, the judge is likely to enter a bench warrant for his arrest for contempt of court.
After that, nothing is likely to happen until and unless he comes back into the US. If he's unlucky, someone will see the warrant and arrest him either at customs or if he get's a speeding ticket or stopped for a broken tail light or something while here.
Note that IANAL (I am not a lawyer), this is a layman's understanding of the process based on being an amateur follower of legal news. You'd want to talk to an actual lawyer.
And, that brings us to (D)...
D) If you go far enough to give the letter of intent, and it's ignored like everything else, be prepared to go through with it, or don't bother because otherwise you are bluffing, and spending money on lawyer time and such with no intention of going through with it (which is a waste of time and resources on your part).

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Marc Radle wrote:terraleon wrote:That's actually a really good idea ...Patrick Curtin wrote:Meh. I said I would give Nick until the end of school vacation. That's my line in the sand. After that perhaps a class-action lawsuit. Radavel? Any thoughts?I would note that engaging in a lawsuit will force Nick not necessarily to work on RC, but rather retain counsel and spend resources dealing with litigation.
You might consider a "letter of intent," listing the participants and explaining your timetable to Nick before such action begins. Such a letter would demonstrate your commitment but give him a final opportunity to act-- working to complete the project, transfer responsibility to another party, or provide refunds.
-Ben.
If anyone is going to do that, you should make sure you have the following :
A) Copies of any e-mail receipts he sent.
B) Print outs of his website if you have them (or can get them from the Wayback machine)
C) Printouts of his posts on Paizo forms.If you do actually end up taking him to court, you'll have to prove the court has jurisdiction over him, which is hard on someone in another country. Showing he marketed and solicited funds in the US is your first step.
If you go that far, it is unlikely you will ever see the money. What is more likely to happen is you'll win a default judgement (because he probably won't bother to fly over or hire a lawyer to show up). Then when he ignores that, the judge is likely to enter a bench warrant for his arrest for contempt of court.
After that, nothing is likely to happen until and unless he comes back into the US. If he's unlucky, someone will see the warrant and arrest him either at customs or if he get's a speeding ticket or stopped for a broken tail light or something while here.
Note that IANAL (I am not a lawyer), this is a layman's understanding of the process based on being an amateur follower of legal news. You'd want to talk to an actual lawyer.
And, that...
Just a heads up:
When I was working as a summer student in a small town of 10k people the minimum retainer to even get started on this as a small claim was two or three thousand dollars. As a student, I was billed out at 125-150 dollars an hour. That retainer would probably cover all the pre-trial writing and a short day of court work from a student that hadn't passed the bar yet.
A simple "legal" nastygram is going to cost between 500 and a thousand dollars.
A real full blown trial is going to cost between 10 and 50 thousand dollars.
Litigation is a money pit and probably won't get you the outcome you desire (in this instance because of the LLC).

Coltaine |

Yeah I don't think legal action would be remotely worth it. I mean at this point I just consider it 30 bucks lost. It sucks and I am disappointed but it is not a huge deal and I live month to month.
It's definitely not a huge deal dollar wise, i think more of the angst is over being mislead and let down so badly especially when others have lugged the cart over the hump and brought it to the finish line.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Yeah I don't think legal action would be remotely worth it. I mean at this point I just consider it 30 bucks lost. It sucks and I am disappointed but it is not a huge deal and I live month to month.It's definitely not a huge deal dollar wise, i think more of the angst is over being mislead and let down so badly especially when others have lugged the cart over the hump and brought it to the finish line.
Oh I agree it is highly disappointing. I was just saying I think talking legal action for a mere 30 bucks is a bit silly.

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mdt wrote:If a few dozen people took him to small claims court in NY, I think that might get his attention.Given he has posted that he was trying to do refunds I'd say he's "aware of the situation" and for whatever reason ( good, bad or otherwise) he's not replying to email nor doing refunds.
It is like from "A Few Good Men" "Lt. Weinberg: "I strenuously object?" Is that how it works? Hm? "Objection." "Overruled." "Oh, no, no, no. No, I STRENUOUSLY object." "Oh. Well, if you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider." "All you're doing now is "STRENUOUSLY objecting"
It is a krap deal but I think people need to move to the next phase of grief--Acceptance.
bump

Sissyl |

What's most interesting is that people STILL seem to want the book before the refund. Damn if that isn't a vote of confidence in his talent...
I have to agree with what has been stated above. His semi-disappearance and actions seem to hint at something bad. Whether it's his health or a relative's, or a serious depression or something worse, it's what I could see happening that would cause this.
If you read the foreword on Hook mountain massacre, one thing that stands out is how impressed they are by Nick's productivity. He put out a large amount of stuff back then. Apparently, something changed in that arena. He also has not responded to offers of putting the book out by other publishers, a solution that would likely solve his problems. For him not to take those offers is strange, and I get a stronger feeling that something really is wrong, and it's been wrong for a long time.

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I asked this in the other thread, but I think it's worth asking here as well ...
I think the biggest question I keep asking myself is why doesn't Nick take up one of the offers to turn over the project?
It seems obvious that, for whatever reason, he is unwilling or unable to complete it himself. More than one reputable company has obviously contacted him with offers to take the thing off his hands, finish it and make everyone happy.
It seems like a win-win for everyone, yet he apparently is unwilling or unable to take any of theses companies up on the offers. From the sounds of it, he doesn't even reply to the offers. That just seems ... odd.
To me, this is the single strangest aspect of the whole, sorted, messy situation.
Does anyone have any insight on why Nick will not or can not sign over the thing to someone else and wash his hands of the whole situation? Seems like he would welcome the chance to get out from under what has been a huge weight for him.
Full disclosure - I did not pre order and have no money involved that needs refunded. I'm really just interested as an RPG fan who was a big fan of Logue's work and can't figure out what the heck is going on!

Coltaine |

What's most interesting is that people STILL seem to want the book before the refund. Damn if that isn't a vote of confidence in his talent...
I have to agree with what has been stated above. His semi-disappearance and actions seem to hint at something bad. Whether it's his health or a relative's, or a serious depression or something worse, it's what I could see happening that would cause this.
If you read the foreword on Hook mountain massacre, one thing that stands out is how impressed they are by Nick's productivity. He put out a large amount of stuff back then. Apparently, something changed in that arena. He also has not responded to offers of putting the book out by other publishers, a solution that would likely solve his problems. For him not to take those offers is strange, and I get a stronger feeling that something really is wrong, and it's been wrong for a long time.
Unemployment tends to increase productivity. Being caught lying multiple time tends to make people "disappear."

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I'll take the $30 you're offering to compensate my lost preorder. Send me an email to mbrock@georgiapfs.org and I'll send you my address or Paypal account address since you are offering.I realize consideration might be in short supply on the internet, but if the preorder cost spent years ago was so crucial, then let me know and hell, *I'll* give you the $30.
-Ben.

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tsathogga wrote:No response from Nick yetI actually sent an email to Nick last night asking if I could help negotiate some sort of settlement that would help get Razor Coast out the door. So far, nothing in my inbox.
-Lisa
Thanks Lisa for your concern in this matter. You're an angel.
Though I have already asked Nick for a refund but not fruit there yet, I'd buy Razor Coast from Paizo if it ends up publishing it :-)

Geistlinger |

I think the biggest question I keep asking myself is why doesn't Nick take up one of the offers to turn over the project?
LPJ: Thanks for the offer! I love your work and have no doubt you would do RC justice - however, for a bundle of reasons I can't hand it off.
Apparently he has said to LPJ, that he cannot (for whatever reason) hand it off to someone else.
Pure speculation on my part, take it for what it's worth, but I had a thought that perhaps the art assets he purchased with preorder money are licensed to Sinister Adventures, LLC, and might not be transferable. As I said, though pure speculation (read pulled out of my ... ).
I'm another with no horse in this race, though I could easilyhave been had I had the funds when the preorders were being accepted.
I am interested in Anarchist Gamemaster's Cookbook, and if it ever gets released, I would likely see about buying a copy. But, I'm not holding my breath. :/

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Oh I agree it is highly disappointing. I was just saying I think talking legal action for a mere 30 bucks is a bit silly.
+1.
I'm bummed about the money, but more so about a talented writer ruining his reputation. And honestly, the $30 doesn't bug me that much. I've blown that much on stupid stuff in the past that just sits in my closet or on my bookshelf. What is that, a shirt that I bought but don't wear? Or the Paizo order I put in YESTERDAY, the day before the birthday sale (ug!)?
Look, I participate in a lot of the patronage projects on Wolfgang Baur's Open Design site [no association with Razor Coast, but you'll see where this is going]. Now, I could just buy the finished product if I like it, but I get a kick out of being in on the ground floor and having some small measure of editorial opinion in the projects. I take the title "patron" very seriously. I'm sponsoring a work of art. It may turn out amazing, or it may turn out like crap [so far they've all been gems]. That's the way art and patronage goes. Don't you have to figure Da Vinci and Michelangelo put a clunker once in a while? They were experimenting and sometimes experiments turn out badly.
The way I look at it, Razor Coast was an experiment. Man, it coulda' been incredible. I was willing to bet $30 that it was going to be amazing. Two years down the road, looks like it won't be. Maybe Nick should have sold it more as patronage than as a pre-order 100% sure-thing. He probably should have done a lot of things differently. But in the end it was my choice to take a risk and possibly, vicariously, be a part of something grand. Oh well. Life goes on.
BTW - Since Razor Coast went up in smoke, I've done several other patronage projects with Open Design and Christopher West and I've loved every one of them. If you take one chance in your life and it fails, then you're going to be pretty bitter. That's a 100% failure rate. But if your learn a lesson, pick your projects a little better in the future, and try again, that failure rate goes down with every success. Mine's probably somewhere between 5-10% right now. Pretty acceptable to me, and well worth the risk in exchange for being in on the ground floor (and gettin' my name inside the cover!).

Ernest Mueller |

Yeah, the two most ultra lame parts of this are:
1. He won't hand a finished manuscript off to anyone to publish (he had other people do a good 40% of the work, so I'm not sure what the problem is)
2. This hurts everyone else, because it's a reminder that preordering anything in RPG world is an iffy idea. So all the more-reliable preorder/patronage people out there suffer because of the high profile "fail and keep the money" events like this.
In the end he just clearly doesn't care any more. No one is so busy they can't return an email or make a forum post. He's decided that RPG stuff is part of his "past life" and he just doesn't care to have anything to do with it. Sadly that's with a lot of people's money in his pocket, so it's quite unethical, but he's an ocean away from most of the aggrieved, so his attitude is clearly "whatever..." It's not like he's dead or in the hospital, his new life is quite active and clearly documented, he just would rather forget about this whole part of his life. C'est la vie.

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What Nick Logue could do would be to sell his IP to Paizo, use that money for outstanding refunds (or even better, have Paizo handle the refunds using their legendary ninja superhero custserv), and have Paizo pluck the best parts of RC to use in Skull and Shackles AP.
Wet dream zone, but dreams are what life is made of.

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Thank you all who chimed in on the legal side. It was just an idle question, and I had already pretty much figured the cost would be prohibitive, but Rad had mentioned something similar earlier in the year, so since IANAL i thought it would be good to see if there were any cheap legal ploys available.
I have been a big supporter of Nick throughout this process, but even a patient man has his limits. I am going to chalk the sixty-odd dollars up to experience I guess. It is always frustrating to be taken for cash, no matter what the amount. It is a shame that someone of Nick's talent would end up disappointing his fans. I had thought better of you Nick.

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Lisa Stevens wrote:tsathogga wrote:No response from Nick yetI actually sent an email to Nick last night asking if I could help negotiate some sort of settlement that would help get Razor Coast out the door. So far, nothing in my inbox.
-Lisa
rumors are now circling that Paizo has reached some sort of agreement with Nick about something... i guess
it's what i read so don't ask me for details
Where did you read that? If you mean the post by Bill Webb in the ToH thread that was just a brain fart. We was talking in emails while he posted that and I think I confused him. :)

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Lisa Stevens wrote:Just curious if there was anything new on this front?tsathogga wrote:No response from Nick yetI actually sent an email to Nick last night asking if I could help negotiate some sort of settlement that would help get Razor Coast out the door. So far, nothing in my inbox.
-Lisa
Don't know about Lisa but I know the last time I talked to Bill still nada.

Power Word Unzip |

Kthulhu wrote:I don't know why people expect that he'll accept this offer when he's ignored 3 or 4 previous offers.It's a hope.
I would think that being offered the chance to bring your mega-adventure to press by the industry-leading RPG publisher is, presumably, a much safer and potentially profitable gambit than handing it off to a 3PP.
Of course, if any development *were* forthcoming, we might not hear anything about it for awhile while the details are hammered out.
Here's hoping.

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I would think that being offered the chance to bring your mega-adventure to press by the industry-leading RPG publisher is, presumably, a much safer and potentially profitable gambit than handing it off to a 3PP.
Except, as I understand it, the entirety of Paizo's involvement consists of Lisa trying to get in contact with Nick on Bill Webb's behalf. Frog God Games would be the actual publisher.
Of course, it's all rather moot, because I expect the response to this to be exactly the same as the response to all the other offers...nothing.

Power Word Unzip |

Power Word Unzip wrote:I would think that being offered the chance to bring your mega-adventure to press by the industry-leading RPG publisher is, presumably, a much safer and potentially profitable gambit than handing it off to a 3PP.Except, as I understand it, the entirety of Paizo's involvement consists of Lisa trying to get in contact with Nick on Bill Webb's behalf. Frog God Games would be the actual publisher.
Of course, it's all rather moot, because I expect the response to this to be exactly the same as the response to all the other offers...nothing.
Ah, my mistake then. Hmm. Well, for the sake of those that did pre-order, I hope something does get worked out. I didn't pay for one in advance, but I'd likely buy a copy if it were printed in sufficient quantities.

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Lisa Stevens wrote:Just curious if there was anything new on this front?tsathogga wrote:No response from Nick yetI actually sent an email to Nick last night asking if I could help negotiate some sort of settlement that would help get Razor Coast out the door. So far, nothing in my inbox.
-Lisa
Not surprisingly, no news. Sorry, I tried.
-Lisa

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Stereofm wrote:
Kudos Lou. Write something, anything for Pathfinder, and i'll buy it for your trouble.It's not Pathfinder, but this is an absolutely fantastic work by Lou Agresta and you can get it here.
-Ben.
Thanks for the link, I've just ordered a copy to show my appreciation for Lou.