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Tacticslion wrote:Freehold DM wrote:“Hurting your future career.”Scintillae wrote:is this sloth or knowing how the game is played?Woran wrote:Yep... so many kids who are so much smarter than their work shows because they know they can just skate through on a C. I'm sure this won't backfire horribly when they start looking at college...or trying to start a career with their horrible work habits leaned on for years...Of course our system isnt perfect. Since 55 gets you a passing grade, we have what we call 60% culture'.
Doing just good enough to pass, as a better grade doesnt matter in a lot of cases (unless you want to get into a numerous fixus study).
This causes a lot of underperformimg.Pretty much this.
The kids all roll their eyes when I say it, but habitual laziness is not an easy switch to flip. Turning in barely-acceptable final products is not going to make any positive impact on professors or employers, and the children who insist that they will simply "start caring later" are also the children who give me no indication that they have the slightest idea of how to care at all. I hope for their sakes that they're right, that they can just suddenly start putting forth effort for quality output. But...sigh
If it was truly knowing how the system worked, they'd understand that they at least need to grind some XP along the way if they don't want to end up getting absolutely wrecked by reality...
When you're on a training bond with your company(and have to pay the bond back if you fail), and have to finish a 3 year course in 2 years...you'd be surprised how motivated that makes you.
Also helps that during lull work periods I was allowed to study (which I did) and no one would bat an eyelash.

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Woran wrote:NobodysHome wrote:I'm always frustrated by teachers who do a strict, by-the-book curve because of events such as Impus Major's, but having been the subject of a formal complaint because I used subjective curving, I at least understand why some teachers do it.
But watching Impus Major get straight C's on all the exams leading up to the final, and then suddenly in the last 2 months of class catch fire and get straight A's, then a straight-up A on the final, and end up with a B- in class due to the quality of his previous work was... frustrating.
Understandable. But frustrating.
Grading on a curve has always boggled my mind...
Basically you dont have to be any good... just better then your classmates.The difficulty in a "straight curve" is the idea is that the teacher can somehow, miraculously, figure out exactly how to create an exam such that A-level students will get over 90%, B-level students will get over 80%, and so forth.
My U.C. Professor insisted that, "If you're asking students to solve problems they've already seen before, then how are you determining whether they've actually learned anything?"
Impus Major's physics teacher designed an exam where he messed up and made it too hard and the average was 56%.Did the whole class deserve an F? Or should he make some adjustments to account for the fact that he is a fallible human being?
My curve was simple:
> 90% Automatic A
> 80% Automatically at least a B
> 70% Automatically at least a C
> 60% Automatically at least a D
< 50% Automatically an FBut then the actual grades depended on natural breaks in the distribution (which always happen); in one class an 83% might be an A, in another class it might be an A-, and in another class it might be a B.
To assume that teachers can somehow miraculously design their exams such that classes naturally fall into exact breaks is really expecting quite a lot...
The maths tests our teachers set were basically undoable within the limit unless you have natural mathematical talent. Which I have none. Understand why I hate maths now?
IT EATS THE THOUGHTS OUT OF YOUR HEAD!
DOWN TO MATHS!

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“Standars” was just me - I make mistakes because I’m: being hasty, dyslexic, failing at a weird joke, or any host of other reasons. Basically, I’m a flake. XD
We aren’t riding ANY of the rides: this trip is all about the resort and non-park stuff! Our kids are too small and melts for that nonsense! And it costs a lot! And the resorts are awesome by themselves!

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Yeah magic kingdom was all waiting in line for 2-3 hours. epcot however has like constantly flowing (albeit less exciting) rides I can't remember waiting more then a short time for any of theres. the only problme I had with them was their look at the future stuff was way outdated. Its like dude we already have that stuff now. animal kingdom rides (which mostly its more of like tours and shows) went through quick too. Haven't done MGM yet.

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I avoid theme parks at all costs.
Or more specifically because of all the costs.
And people.
My Florida in-laws pretty well assume it's something I absolutely want to do anytime we're there. Generally without even asking. One day Aiymi and I were told to get in the car. Next thing I know we went from the Atlantic coast to Tampa and we were pulling into Busch Gardens.
Edit: fix autocorrect "corrections".

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I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.

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I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.
Honestly, that doesn't seem too unreasonable to me.
Since I have a hybrid and have to pay for the more expensive oil change, it's usually cheaper to buy the punch card of six at my local Honda dealership in advance... the catch being that they have so much business, you either have to wait in their lounge for an hour and a half to two hours, or have their courtesy driver take you home and pick you up later.For a freaking oil change.
I would *happily* drive an hour and a half to get it for free.

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Vanykrye wrote:I'd collect them, thank them for their service, then begin chopping them and lay them on dishes for the party.Just a Mort wrote:We're having a steam boat party tonight so time to get marketing. Ingredients aren't going to walk into my house.But...what if...what if they did?
thats so cruel...

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NobodysHome wrote:Woran wrote:NobodysHome wrote:I'm always frustrated by teachers who do a strict, by-the-book curve because of events such as Impus Major's, but having been the subject of a formal complaint because I used subjective curving, I at least understand why some teachers do it.
But watching Impus Major get straight C's on all the exams leading up to the final, and then suddenly in the last 2 months of class catch fire and get straight A's, then a straight-up A on the final, and end up with a B- in class due to the quality of his previous work was... frustrating.
Understandable. But frustrating.
Grading on a curve has always boggled my mind...
Basically you dont have to be any good... just better then your classmates.The difficulty in a "straight curve" is the idea is that the teacher can somehow, miraculously, figure out exactly how to create an exam such that A-level students will get over 90%, B-level students will get over 80%, and so forth.
My U.C. Professor insisted that, "If you're asking students to solve problems they've already seen before, then how are you determining whether they've actually learned anything?"
Impus Major's physics teacher designed an exam where he messed up and made it too hard and the average was 56%.Did the whole class deserve an F? Or should he make some adjustments to account for the fact that he is a fallible human being?
My curve was simple:
> 90% Automatic A
> 80% Automatically at least a B
> 70% Automatically at least a C
> 60% Automatically at least a D
< 50% Automatically an FBut then the actual grades depended on natural breaks in the distribution (which always happen); in one class an 83% might be an A, in another class it might be an A-, and in another class it might be a B.
To assume that teachers can somehow miraculously design their exams such that classes naturally fall into exact breaks is really expecting quite a lot...
IT EATS THE THOUGHTS OUT OF YOUR HEAD!
DOWN TO MATHS!
DEATH TO MATH!

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Just a Mort wrote:thats so cruel...Vanykrye wrote:I'd collect them, thank them for their service, then begin chopping them and lay them on dishes for the party.Just a Mort wrote:We're having a steam boat party tonight so time to get marketing. Ingredients aren't going to walk into my house.But...what if...what if they did?
The garden can be a cruel and unforgiving place.

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So, am I the only person that thinks Pathfinder needs a playable race with a prehensile tongue.
It really needs to be an option for grippli. I can think of one character in particular...

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Orthos wrote:I didn't follow the thread after the first page or two, but I remember a lot of hostility to religion and a lot of hostility to asexuality, including several who basically said they could never trust anyone who legitimately claimed to be uninterested as they HAD to be a repressed religious psycho.Which...really says some unflattering things about that person. "I cannot relate to you on any human wavelength if there is not a possibility that we can bond over the horizontal tango. That is the extent of my philosophy." I mean, I can understand not getting asexuality. I cannot fathom simply writing a person off over it.
It's one of those aspects of human nature that I find eternally depressing: "I cannot understand the other person's point of view, and therefore there is something wrong with them."
A natural self-defense mechanism, but one that is ill-suited to a modern high population (and therefore high diversity) society.
For example, I don't understand male homosexuality. I'm towards the extreme end of the heterosexual spectrum. Intellectually, I can see how this might cause me to have a visceral negative reaction towards homosexuals, since I cannot empathize with them.
Instead, my general attitude towards the sexual world at large is, "Meh, I'm not involved, so do whatever you want. Doesn't affect me."
Caveats apply, of course, but I can definitely see, "They are not interested in sex. Sex is necessary for perpetuating the species. Therefore there is something wrong with them," as a low-level, knee-jerk reaction to such an admission.

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From every account I've ever seen of Disney(_____), it's 90% waiting in lines.
And that's the entire issue with why we won't go there any more.
If you're spending the day standing in lines for rides, you're not experiencing the park (or didn't used to be).
We'd get Fast Passes (skip the line), wander around the shops, look at the decorations, eat at a nice restaurant (whose prices were no higher than any restaurant on Solano), then our Fast Pass would come up and we'd go on a ride. So maybe 6 rides a day, and the rest of the time just people watching, window shopping, and enjoying the general ambiance. And even the kids liked such days. Especially when they were younger and ran all over Tom Sawyer island (no lines) unsupervised.
With their new focus on, "Yeah, get rid of the high-end food and the unique shopping and just be another theme park," none of that is around any more. Except waiting in lines for rides. Which we don't do.

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I think the big problem with amusement parks is when you want to spend money in the parks. Things tend to cost like 3-5 times normal prices. We used to leave eat and come back. we avoided souvenirs too. Always just went for the rides.
And that was what made Disneyland different. I don't know whether they subsidized their restaurants, or whether the free rent made them cheap, but they were no more expensive than Bay Area restaurants.
With the modern redesign, however, yes indeed we're seeing $10 corn dogs and $12 burgers, and no decent food (the Orleans Cafe had its menu cut to 1/3 of its old size), and it really is becoming just another theme park.

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captain yesterday wrote:So, am I the only person that thinks Pathfinder needs a playable race with a prehensile tongue.It really needs to be an option for grippli. I can think of one character in particular...
*eats three bugs, and hops around in a little jig*

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I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.
LOL. Move to California, where 400-mile drives come up every couple of months...

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Vanykrye wrote:I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.
Honestly, that doesn't seem too unreasonable to me.
Since I have a hybrid and have to pay for the more expensive oil change, it's usually cheaper to buy the punch card of six at my local Honda dealership in advance... the catch being that they have so much business, you either have to wait in their lounge for an hour and a half to two hours, or have their courtesy driver take you home and pick you up later.For a freaking oil change.
I would *happily* drive an hour and a half to get it for free.
Er... is there something weird about Honda hybrids?
The Prius gets regular, run-of-the-mill oil changes just like any other car...

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captain yesterday wrote:So, am I the only person that thinks Pathfinder needs a playable race with a prehensile tongue.It really needs to be an option for grippli. I can think of one character in particular...
I was expecting this guy, admittedly.

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Vanykrye wrote:LOL. Move to California, where 400-mile drives come up every couple of months...I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.
Oh, I do those kinds of trips too. We'll go to Cincinnati or Grand Rapids, Michigan just for a concert and then come home the next day. A day trip to Chicago is 300-340 round trip. If I want to pop up to CY's it's a 400 mile round trip.

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lisamarlene wrote:Vanykrye wrote:I drove an hour and a half to Champaign for an oil change. Because it was free. And then they also rotated my tires. For free. And this is why I'm still buying my cars from a dealership in Champaign instead of the one about 6 miles from my house.
And then Zelda called me when I was on my way back to see if I would drop down to Lincoln to grab dinner with her after work. She'll be out of touch for the next 9ish days at a camping retreat.
So I did. Drove about 200 miles today.
Honestly, that doesn't seem too unreasonable to me.
Since I have a hybrid and have to pay for the more expensive oil change, it's usually cheaper to buy the punch card of six at my local Honda dealership in advance... the catch being that they have so much business, you either have to wait in their lounge for an hour and a half to two hours, or have their courtesy driver take you home and pick you up later.For a freaking oil change.
I would *happily* drive an hour and a half to get it for free.
Er... is there something weird about Honda hybrids?
The Prius gets regular, run-of-the-mill oil changes just like any other car...
Yeah, you have to get full synthetic. You don't have to do that with the Prius? Also, my Civic hybrid doesn't get any better mileage than my beat-up old Civic Coupe did. But it's an '07.

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Just a Mort wrote:thats so cruel...Vanykrye wrote:I'd collect them, thank them for their service, then begin chopping them and lay them on dishes for the party.Just a Mort wrote:We're having a steam boat party tonight so time to get marketing. Ingredients aren't going to walk into my house.But...what if...what if they did?
Well OK, maybe I'd collect them and send them to a museum for being unique walking specimens and maybe take a video of them walking into the kitchen and post it on youtube...
Better?