It doesn't specifically say this in the core rulebook (at least not the one I have), but does the Elven Curved Blade function as a bastard-sword? As in can you wield the blade in one hand with the exotic weapon proficiency feat, and if so, is it a martial weapon in that respect for Elves? In the core book, at least the one I have, it's only listed as a two-handed weapon, and makes no mention of options other than being Weapon Finesseable.
It's a two-handed weapon that you can use with weapon finesse. Where is the confusion or ambiguity there?
Just to mention, if the Elven Curved Blade were able to be wielded one handed, it would be an unbalanced weapon.
-Bastard Sword Martial Weapon (2 handed) 1d10/19-20 x2 No Special Abilities
-Elven Curved Blade Exotic Weapon (2 handed) 1d10/18-20 x2 Finesse
-Bastard Sword Exotic Weapon (1 handed) 1d10/19-20 x2 No special abilities
If you compare them across the board, the Curved Blade is an extremely nice weapon...it may still be two handed, compared to 1-handed Exotic use of the Bastard Sword, but it also has a greater threat range and is finessable. Comparatively, they are balanced decently well as they are.
It doesn't specifically say this in the core rulebook (at least not the one I have), but does the Elven Curved Blade function as a bastard-sword? As in can you wield the blade in one hand with the exotic weapon proficiency feat, and if so, is it a martial weapon in that respect for Elves? In the core book, at least the one I have, it's only listed as a two-handed weapon, and makes no mention of options other than being Weapon Finesseable.
Technically you could wield a small sized elven curved blade in 1 hand at a -2 penalty if you wanted to dual wield them or use one with a shield. At that point you may be better off going with a scimitar, longsword, or falcata though.
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You sir, may have a cookie.
Yes, the elven curved blade is a sword for those curvy bastards, the elves.
One made by the Keebler elves?
Elven curved blades don't come in small.
Of course they do. Elven children learn to fight before they learn to talk.
Elves are actually pretty bad-ass in that regard.
But more importantly, there is the thing about exports and plagiarism, and the fact that other races can use elven weapons (same for dwarven weapons and gnomish weapons).
It doesn't specifically say this in the core rulebook (at least not the one I have), but does the Elven Curved Blade function as a bastard-sword? As in can you wield the blade in one hand with the exotic weapon proficiency feat, and if so, is it a martial weapon in that respect for Elves? In the core book, at least the one I have, it's only listed as a two-handed weapon, and makes no mention of options other than being Weapon Finesseable.
Maybe a GM would rule if you were an elf (The Elven Curve Blade becomes a martial two-handed weapon) and then took Exotic Proficiency (Elven Curve Blade) then you could treat it as a one-handed weapon? Not RAW, of course, but check with your GM to see if that would be acceptable.
It doesn't specifically say this in the core rulebook (at least not the one I have), but does the Elven Curved Blade function as a bastard-sword? As in can you wield the blade in one hand with the exotic weapon proficiency feat, and if so, is it a martial weapon in that respect for Elves? In the core book, at least the one I have, it's only listed as a two-handed weapon, and makes no mention of options other than being Weapon Finesseable.Maybe a GM would rule if you were an elf (The Elven Curve Blade becomes a martial two-handed weapon) and then took Exotic Proficiency (Elven Curve Blade) then you could treat it as a one-handed weapon? Not RAW, of course, but check with your GM to see if that would be acceptable.
I'd make that a different feat altogether, that way you won't have to find a name for "ultra-exotic" weapons.
Elven Swordmaster [Fighter].
Prerequisites: Elf, proficient with elven curve blade.
Benefit: You may treat the elven curve blade as a one-handed weapon.
-Elven Curved Blade Exotic Weapon (2 handed) 1d10/18-20 x2 Finesse
The comparison that I would make(if I absolutely had too), is that it's a 2-handed variant of the high crit 1-handed, medium weapons...
Scimitar (1 handed) 1d4(s) 1d6(m) 18–20/×2Rapier (1 handed) 1d4(s) 1d6(m) 18–20/×2 Finesse
This makes the Elven Curve Blade doing relatively the same thing that the Earthbreaker does for buldgeoning weapons, (because the Great Club is lame) completing the weapon tree/set.
Which brings up an entirely different question... Why is it that we still suffer(yes, I said suffer) reprints of the Ogre Hook and the Earthbreaker didn't make it into the Adventurer's Armory or the APG? *grumbles something about looking like a stupid ship's anchor*
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-Elven Curved Blade Exotic Weapon (2 handed) 1d10/18-20 x2 Finesse
The comparison that I would make(if I absolutely had too), is that it's a 2-handed variant of the high crit 1-handed, medium weapons...
Scimitar (1 handed) 1d4(s) 1d6(m) 18–20/×2
Rapier (1 handed) 1d4(s) 1d6(m) 18–20/×2 FinesseThis makes the Elven Curve Blade doing relatively the same thing that the Earthbreaker does for buldgeoning weapons, (because the Great Club is lame) completing the weapon tree/set.
Which brings up an entirely different question... Why is it that we still suffer(yes, I said suffer) reprints of the Ogre Hook and the Earthbreaker didn't make it into the Adventurer's Armory or the APG? *grumbles something about looking like a stupid ship's anchor*
What's even better is that the Falcata has different stats in the APG and Adventurer's Armory. I still want a picture of an Urumi.
One made OF Keebler elves
One made by the Keebler elves?
I actually giggled at that, LazarX.
And I actually knew a curvy Elven bastard once, but I suppose that's another topic entirely.
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Please check Rival Guide pag 12, Derrak Stoneskull:
Spoiler:Melee +5 adamantine elven curve blade +40 /+35/+30/+25
(1d10+21/15–20/×3)
Special Attacks deadly critical* 3/day, reliable strike* 4/day,
unstoppable strike*, weapon mastery (elven curve blade),
weapon training 5* (elven curve blade); +1 on attack rolls
against goblinoid and orc humanoids
STATISTICS
Str 26, Dex 13, Con 22, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 6
Base Atk +20; CMB +27 (+31 sunder); CMD 41 (45 vs. bull rush,
45 vs. trip, 50 vs. sunder)
Feats Critical Focus, Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency
(elven curve blade), Furious Focus*, Greater Sunder,
Greater Vital Strike, Greater Weapon Focus (elven curve
blade), Greater Weapon Specialization (elven curve blade),
Improved Critical (elven curve blade), Improved Sunder,
Improved Vital Strike, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes,
Power Attack, Slaying Sprint, Staggering Critical (DC 34),
Stunning Critical (DC 34), Toughness, Vital Strike, Weapon
Focus (elven curve blade), Weapon Specialization (elven
curve blade)If you wach damage and Str (and I´m not wrong) +21 its only posible with one handed weapon[spoiler]
26 str = +12
Weapon specialization +2
Greater WS +2
Weapon's enchantmen +5
21, blackjack!More seriously if it was/is a typo, you're arguing this typo says it's one handed when there's no indication of ANY two handed weapon being able to be wielded in one hand at full effect.*
*[spoiler]Bastard sword is specifically a one handed weapon that can be wielded as martial two handed.
Please check Rival Guide pag 12, Derrak Stoneskull:
** spoiler omitted **
your math is wrong, because you omitted weapon training, it would add another 5 points, so two handed would be 26, and one handed would actually be 22
+5 sword
+5 weapon triaing
+4 weapon spec/ greater spec
+8 strength or +12 str. for two handed+22 total or 26 total
Does the Elven Curve Blade benefit from Slashing Grace?
Holy thread necromancy Batman!
No - Slashing Grace explicitly only works for 1-handed weapons.
Like bastard swords.
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Except, when Bastard Swords, are not one-handed weapons.
Like, when you touch them with a second hand, or when you don't have the right feat.
It transforms, and also has an effect that half resembles Thor's hammer.
No feat? You cannot even lift it with one hand. That 6lb sword, is like, a metaphorical zillion pounds.
Of course, the 12lb Dwarven double waraxe, can be wielded in one hand by a nonproficient peasant, with -4.
Except, when Bastard Swords, are not one-handed weapons.
Like, when you touch them with a second hand, or when you don't have the right feat.
It transforms, and also has an effect that half resembles Thor's hammer.
No feat? You cannot even lift it with one hand. That 6lb sword, is like, a metaphorical zillion pounds.
Of course, the 12lb Dwarven double waraxe, can be wielded in one hand by a nonproficient peasant, with -4.
I hope you're being facetious (it's hard to tell, I'm a bit antisocial).
Bastard sword? Exotic one-hander with special effect. Swing it while not proficient? -4. Martial weapon user? 2h fine, 1h at -4. (And if you took the Exotic proficiency, it'd cover two-handed use the same as any other one-handed weapon ever.) Pick it up in one hand? Sure.
Elven curved blade? Exotic twohander. Swing it onehanded? Rules aren't explicit but I'd personally rule you're so ineffective you're just wasting the action if you insisted on it, just like trying to onehand a greatsword. Holding it in one hand? Sure, and supported by quite a lot of documentation--let go of the hilt of that greatsword to chuck a spell at someone, for example. You don't drop it, but while it's in one hand you can't actually swing it.
I am poking fun at this FAQ.
Reading it, I can see why.