very sad
Darn!
Del Toro is good, but The Hobbit deserves someone better.
Excellent, now he can start work on Hellboy 3!
Excellent, now he can start work on Hellboy 3!
That is the "good" part of this story. :)
That's too bad. I was looking forward to his version of the creepy stuff. On the upside, maybe Jackson will step up and direct them himself. That wouldn't suck.
Sir Ian McKellen isn't getting any younger. Soon you will have to replace him with...I don't know...the dude really is irreplacable. Peter Jackson should just bite the bullet and direct it himself. King Kong wasn't that bad.
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Sir Ian McKellen isn't getting any younger. Soon you will have to replace him with...I don't know...the dude really is irreplacable. Peter Jackson should just bite the bullet and direct it himself. King Kong wasn't that bad.
Ian McKellan = 71
Christopher Leee = 88.
He has some time left. :-)
Well, I like del Toro, but I'm not at all sure it's a bad thing. For that matter, I'd like to see someone other than Jackson do it.
This makes me a little sad, but if it would free del Toro up to do something like, say... "At the Mountains of Madness", I would be behind it 90000%!
A whole lot of +1's on that bit.
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Well, del Toro's next projects are remakes of some of Universal's classic monster movies (Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde). The only reason he backed out of Hobbit is that he'd need to be able to start filming it before the end of summer to meet his other contract obligations with Universal, and with MGM's money woes that wasn't going to happen.
He absolutely wants to do "Mountains of Madness", but either has to get enough cred with a studio to get them to give him carte blanche (as most studios don't get it enough to put money behind it) or he needs to make enough money to finance it himself (and he doesn't expect it would be cheap).
Jackson is not available to direct either (he is producing the Tin Tin movies as well as working on an adaptation of Naomi Novik's "His Majesty's Dragon" for either TV or film (he'd prefer a TV mini-series)). He will be meeting with Warner Bros (who fully subsumed New Line a year or so back) to discuss directing options later this month.
Personally I think a great choice would be a producing partner of del Toro's, Alfonso Cuarón, who directed the third Harry Potter movie (Prisoner of Azkaban) and Children of Men.
Jackson is not available to direct either (he is producing the Tin Tin movies as well as working on an adaptation of Naomi Novik's "His Majesty's Dragon" for either TV or film (he'd prefer a TV mini-series)). He will be meeting with Warner Bros (who fully subsumed New Line a year or so back) to discuss directing options later this month.
Ohhhh... I hadn't heard about that. That's great, I love the Temeraire books.
This is a little scary since The Hobbit is one of my favorite books and could be as great of a movie as Lord of the Rings. I hope Jackson steps up eventually and directs it.
Excellent, now they can be directed by the tag team of Brett Ratner and Uwe Boll. While we're at it, let's get Michael Bay in to produce...
Well I just hope it will be decent, loved the cartoon when I was a kid now my kids have seen it and like it(a bit dated for them tho) but as long as they have the same music as the cartoon I will be happy.(grin)
Sir Ian McKellen isn't getting any younger. Soon you will have to replace him with...
Sir Ian McKellen isn't getting any younger. Soon you will have to replace him with...Ron Paul.
Wow... just wow.
Tim Burton could also make a great adaptation, maybe tuning down a bit his usual dark fantasy style, but still using his fertile creativity...
Having Michael Bay involved in any aspect of this movie would be a complete and utter nightmare. Michael Bay... you suck.
Having Michael Bay involved in any aspect of this movie would be a complete and utter nightmare. Michael Bay... you suck.
Let's not turn this into a Bay hatefest. He's not the greatest director in the world, but I loved the first Transformers movie almost as much as I was blah about the second. That said, I'm ALL for keeping Sondbergh AWAY from this movie.
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I for one am VERY GLAD that Del Toro escaped "The Hobbit." It's already taken him out of directing movies for 2 years or so, and since I've yet to see a movie directed by him that I don't love (something I can't say for many, if any, other directors, thanks to "Ghosts of Mars"), allowing him to get on with directing one of the many movies he's eager to do next, such as "Death: The High Cost of Living," or "Drood" or, to be honest, "At the Mountains of Madness" which is the movie I want him to tackle next for sure... well... it's a good thing.
MGM's the one at fault here; and their antics have also pretty much killed the Bond movie franchise for now as well. It's frustrating.
But at least, now that del Toro's escaped the collapsing black hole, he'll be able to do some work.
And frankly, I think that Peter Jackson should direct "The Hobbit" movies. He knows what he's doing there. And I trust him enough to keep it away from hacks like Michael Bey who think of movies as little more than special effects demo reels.
I hear Kevin Smith is bored.
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Tim Burton could also make a great adaptation, maybe tuning down a bit his usual dark fantasy style, but still using his fertile creativity...
Johnny Depp as Bilbo.
You know it would happen.
The Hobbit by del Toro would have been amazing. I hope he eventually gets to Make At the Mountains of Madness, but even being a huge fan of both del Toro and an even bigger fan of Lovecraft, I just can't see a decent adaptation of that work being a watchable movie. I mean, c'mon, 90% of it would be scientists speculating on what ancient bas-reliefs meant.
Tim Burton could also make a great adaptation, maybe tuning down a bit his usual dark fantasy style, but still using his fertile creativity...Johnny Depp as Bilbo.
You know it would happen.
The Hobbit by del Toro would have been amazing. I hope he eventually gets to Make At the Mountains of Madness, but even being a huge fan of both del Toro and an even bigger fan of Lovecraft, I just can't see a decent adaptation of that work being a watchable movie. I mean, c'mon, 90% of it would be scientists speculating on what ancient bas-reliefs meant.
I was under the impression that there wasn't going to be a movie period, as MGM has been having serious problems.
I'm pretty glad del Toro is not making it, I think he is overrated, and I was cringing to see where he was going to put Smaug's eyes.
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I was under the impression that there wasn't going to be a movie period, as MGM has been having serious problems.
MGM is just a partner in getting the movie made (they own the half the rights, Warner Bros the other half). Depending on how things go, WB may end up buying out MGM's rights to make the movie (MGM doesn't want to sell them as they are aware of their value, but are getting financially desperate enough they may not have a choice).
I just can't see a decent adaptation of that work being a watchable movie. I mean, c'mon, 90% of it would be scientists speculating on what ancient bas-reliefs meant.
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there.
As long as they don't try to add a love interest or update it (it should be a period piece) I think it will be phenomenal.
Reading it recently I kept thinking how great a movie it would be, although in my head it was definitely Werner Herzog and not del Toro.
Why can't 2 companies work together on this and "GET'ER DONE"! At the rate its going I'll be 60 yrs old when it comes out! Sir Ian McKellen, won't need the fake beard and long hair. I think New Zealand end is ready to go?
Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
The Tooth Fairies were great then it became the Muppet movie I kept expecting Kermit to turn up and sing rainbow connection.
I liked the Fey he got them right other than that I kept having flashbacks to Dark Crystal and Labyrinth (which I love by the way but are not terrifying in the way that the Faerie should be).
I was really worried that the Hobbit was going to get Muppeted up.
No, I disliked both movies, especially the first one.Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
Wasn't crazy about the first. It was 'ok'. I just borrowed the second from a friend today and will be watching it sometime this week.
I don't know I think his visuals are pretty decent,His early horror movies are pretty good.
No, I disliked both movies, especially the first one.Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
Were you a fan of the comic first? I'd never heard of Hellboy until the movies, liked them, so I went back to the books and then liked them even more.
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Were you a fan of the comic first? I'd never heard of Hellboy until the movies, liked them, so I went back to the books and then liked them even more.No, I disliked both movies, especially the first one.Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
I'm a much bigger fan of Del Toro's "Spanish movies," Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone, and to a lesser degree his early take on Vampires, Cronos, than of his Hollywood films. Still, I'd call myself a fan of all his work in general.
While I'm sorry he won't be the guy on The Hobbit, I'm excited that he's freed up to do his more exciting projects, like The Mountains of Madness.
I saw Cronos a long time ago, but don't remember much about it. There was a gold pocket watch or something? A warehouse?
Now Pan's Labyrinth, I crazy loved. Also loved arguing with everybody about it. I certainly wouldn't put the HB movies on the same level as it, but I thought they were fun. I'll have to give Devil's Backbone a look-see.
BTW, Mr. Gross, I'm looking forward to this little coming-out you're having soon...
I really liked Pan's Labyrinth right up until the end, which felt like a huge cop-out. Still, the film had some amazing cinematography.
Really? The ending is what all my acquaintances argued about. Most felt it was pretty dark and nihilistic.
The whole movie was dark and nihilistic. Whether you buy that the little girl's "heaven" was becoming the princess she was always meant to be, or that her brain gave her that last imagery as she died, coinciding with the overactive imagination she had throughout the film, it's still pretty much saying that everything that went on in the movie that was centered on the girl was pointless.
I'm not explaining this quite as well as I'd like...perhaps I'll take a stab at it when I'm in a more awake state of mind.
Were you a fan of the comic first? I'd never heard of Hellboy until the movies, liked them, so I went back to the books and then liked them even more.No, I disliked both movies, especially the first one.Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
I saw the first movie liked it and then read the comics and watched the animated movie (which is good) then HB II.
Yeah, I haven't run across anything Hellboy that I didn't like, at least a little.
Am I the only one that disliked Hellboy 2
No, I think Hellboy was a disappointment. It became the Muppet movie. A bit like Return of the Jedi.
I agree with pres man. I'm glad del Toro is not making it, I think he is overrated.
I meant Hellboy 2 was a disappointment.
I prefer the HB comics any day. Read them before the first movie came out. I like the movie, but thought it a BIG mistake to center it on an unknown agent (made for the movie) instead of HB himself. And he's a bit too comical as well.
HB II was okay, didn't have a problem with the 'muppets' here. But still not the atmosphere of the comics. Fey were great (even that guy from Bros).
Ron Perlman's performance is dead-on.
Mountains of Madness would rock! I'm not waiting on new Universal monster movies (still think the old ones passed the test of time and are not in need of an update).
Quite some work to do, Del Toro!
