
MrTheThird |

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).
Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Charles Evans 25 |
Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).
If you can't find anything just post a thread in the conversions forum, and see what responses show up.
Not being familiar with Eberron, I am afraid that I am unable to be of any more assistance than that.And welcome to the boards.

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Welcome. I think we have the same kind of puffed-up self-importance here, but we also recognize the value of a friendly community, and we have moderators who'd rather set a good example with civil posts, rather than strict deletion and banning policing.
The moonspeaker (all one word) prestige class is in Races of Eberron. (If you don't have access to that book, it turns out to be on clearance through Paizo.
And regarding the victuals, we have a member of the community who has garnered a reputation for greeting new people with freshly-baked virtual baked goods.

MrTheThird |

The resident Demon Queen of cookies{ That be Lilith}. She normally stops by to welcome new folks.
Oh and welcome
Also do you need the classes or are you looking for conversions? Watch the moonspeaker, friendly advise there.
I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters

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I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters.
I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.
And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shiftersThe resident Demon Queen of cookies{ That be Lilith}. She normally stops by to welcome new folks.
Oh and welcome
Also do you need the classes or are you looking for conversions? Watch the moonspeaker, friendly advise there.
Not familiar with it but I thought I might be able to help by pointing out the Free Pathfinder Conversion Guide which should help you quickly and easily convert the 3.5 PRC to Pathfinder Rules.
BTW, Welcome to the boards. If you want help converting the class I would suggest starting a thread specifically asking for help converting X class and the community will respond in droves.
Good luck brother.

hogarth |

I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.
And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.
I've seen a few proposed "Pathfinderized" versions of the shifter. I suspect you should be fine with +2 Dex/+2 Wis/-2 Cha stat modifiers and leaving the rest of the abilities as they were.
I don't think the Moonspeaker PrC needs to be boosted in power; it was pretty good as it was. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need much converting (other than reducing the required skill ranks by 3).

MrTheThird |

MrTheThird wrote:I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters.I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.
And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.
We have already modified the Shifter for pathfinder and I could mod the PRC myself but I'm having trouble figuring the prerequisites for entering the class without making it to hard or to easy to get into.
P.S. This is the right place for this right?

MrTheThird |

Chris Mortika wrote:I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.
And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.
I've seen a few proposed "Pathfinderized" versions of the shifter. I suspect you should be fine with +2 Dex/+2 Wis/-2 Cha stat modifiers and leaving the rest of the abilities as they were.
I don't think the Moonspeaker PrC needs to be boosted in power; it was pretty good as it was. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need much converting (other than reducing the required skill ranks by 3).
Well that seems simple enough thanks.

seekerofshadowlight |

If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.
Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?
Ok changes, straight conversion here
Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spells
Wild shape changes to the new version
Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think
So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)

MrTheThird |

Chris Mortika wrote:If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?
Ok changes, straight conversion here
Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spellsWild shape changes to the new version
Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think
So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)
Thanks for the help and I'll remember to post these questions in the conversions area, thanks again

MrTheThird |

Chris Mortika wrote:If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?
Ok changes, straight conversion here
Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spellsWild shape changes to the new version
Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think
So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)
wait with 8ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?

Aaron Bitman |

Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.

MrTheThird |

Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.
I know I've been told, thanks tho

seekerofshadowlight |

wait with 8 ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?
No, you need the 8 ranks before you may take the PRC. AS you must be 8th level to have 8 ranks, you can not take the PRC at level 8 as you will only have 7 before you level
At the start of level 9 you will have 8 ranks, and at that point you can then take the PRC
By the way this is not a new rule. In 3.5 you needed 11 ranks, which meant 8th level, so in 3.5 you still could not take the PRC before 9th level

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Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.
Welcome! *takes out fresh-baked, lactose-free, gluten-free chocolate chip cookies from the oven* Have a cookie! (And no, I'm not Lilith. Just acting in her stead until she wakes from her coffin.)

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Aaron Bitman wrote:Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.I know I've been told, thanks tho
Here's another thread.

MrTheThird |

MrTheThird wrote:
wait with 8 ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?
No, you need the 8 ranks before you may take the PRC. AS you must be 8th level to have 8 ranks, you can not take the PRC at level 8 as you will only have 7 before you level
At the start of level 9 you will have 8 ranks, and at that point you can then take the PRC
By the way this is not a new rule. In 3.5 you needed 11 ranks, which meant 8th level, so in 3.5 you still could not take the PRC before 9th level
Wow I really had a stupid moment there lol and yum cookies

Kruelaid |

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.
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MrTheThird wrote:Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.
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MrTheThird wrote:Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.
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MrTheThird wrote:Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.
Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.
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