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Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.


Welcome!


Welcome to Paizo and congratulations on enjoying the Pathfinder game with your friends!

The Demon Queen of Victuals may find her way here soon(ish) to grant a boon of numminess.


Turin the Mad wrote:


The Demon Queen of Victuals may find her way here soon(ish) to grant a boon of numminess.

What?


Yea! A convert. No egos on this forum, we're all having too much fun!


MrTheThird wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


The Demon Queen of Victuals may find her way here soon(ish) to grant a boon of numminess.
What?

It's a Good Thing ^_^


MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

If you can't find anything just post a thread in the conversions forum, and see what responses show up.

Not being familiar with Eberron, I am afraid that I am unable to be of any more assistance than that.

And welcome to the boards.


MrTheThird wrote:
What?

He means Lilith, a long time member of the community. She often gives away cookies and other baked goods.

You'll see. :)


MrTheThird wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


The Demon Queen of Victuals may find her way here soon(ish) to grant a boon of numminess.
What?

You'll see. Anyway, welcome to the forums.


Puffy the Cup Cake wrote:
Yea! A convert. No egos on this forum, we're all having too much fun!

I did lurk for a bit Before I signed up and I noticed that people seem to be a lot less tense and less judgmental.


The resident Demon Queen of cookies{ That be Lilith}. She normally stops by to welcome new folks.

Oh and welcome

Also do you need the classes or are you looking for conversions? Watch the moonspeaker, friendly advise there.

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Welcome. I think we have the same kind of puffed-up self-importance here, but we also recognize the value of a friendly community, and we have moderators who'd rather set a good example with civil posts, rather than strict deletion and banning policing.

The moonspeaker (all one word) prestige class is in Races of Eberron. (If you don't have access to that book, it turns out to be on clearance through Paizo.

And regarding the victuals, we have a member of the community who has garnered a reputation for greeting new people with freshly-baked virtual baked goods.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:

The resident Demon Queen of cookies{ That be Lilith}. She normally stops by to welcome new folks.

Oh and welcome

Also do you need the classes or are you looking for conversions? Watch the moonspeaker, friendly advise there.

I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters

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MrTheThird wrote:
I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters.

I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.

And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

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MrTheThird wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:

The resident Demon Queen of cookies{ That be Lilith}. She normally stops by to welcome new folks.

Oh and welcome

Also do you need the classes or are you looking for conversions? Watch the moonspeaker, friendly advise there.

I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters

Not familiar with it but I thought I might be able to help by pointing out the Free Pathfinder Conversion Guide which should help you quickly and easily convert the 3.5 PRC to Pathfinder Rules.

BTW, Welcome to the boards. If you want help converting the class I would suggest starting a thread specifically asking for help converting X class and the community will respond in droves.
Good luck brother.


Chris Mortika wrote:

I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.

And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

I've seen a few proposed "Pathfinderized" versions of the shifter. I suspect you should be fine with +2 Dex/+2 Wis/-2 Cha stat modifiers and leaving the rest of the abilities as they were.

I don't think the Moonspeaker PrC needs to be boosted in power; it was pretty good as it was. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need much converting (other than reducing the required skill ranks by 3).


Chris Mortika wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:
I'm looking for info on a pathfinder version of the Moonspeaker PRC for shifters.

I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.

And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

We have already modified the Shifter for pathfinder and I could mod the PRC myself but I'm having trouble figuring the prerequisites for entering the class without making it to hard or to easy to get into.

P.S. This is the right place for this right?


MrTheThird wrote:


P.S. This is the right place for this right?

It's probably more suitable for the "Conversions" forum.


hogarth wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:

I suppose the first step would be to make a Pathfiner version of the Shifter race.

And note that Prestige Classes, as a general concept, are not as attractive under Pathfinder rules as they are under D&D 3.5. (For one thing, favored class rules have changed.) If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

I've seen a few proposed "Pathfinderized" versions of the shifter. I suspect you should be fine with +2 Dex/+2 Wis/-2 Cha stat modifiers and leaving the rest of the abilities as they were.

I don't think the Moonspeaker PrC needs to be boosted in power; it was pretty good as it was. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need much converting (other than reducing the required skill ranks by 3).

Well that seems simple enough thanks.


hogarth wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:


P.S. This is the right place for this right?

It's probably more suitable for the "Conversions" forum.

Wow it's amazing how fast you guys respond, I can't even seem to get my questions out before they get answered lol.


Chris Mortika wrote:
If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?

Ok changes, straight conversion here

Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spells

Wild shape changes to the new version

Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think

So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:
If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?

Ok changes, straight conversion here

Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spells

Wild shape changes to the new version

Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think

So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)

Thanks for the help and I'll remember to post these questions in the conversions area, thanks again


Anytime, glad I could be some help there


Welcom, MrTheThird, to the paizo messageboard madness. 22 posts in half an hour, with half of them from the OP? Guys, don´t disappoint me here - that has to be better than that.

j/k, of course.

Stefan


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:
If you want the Moonspeaker PrC to have the same shine as it would under 3.5, you'll want to boost its abilities.

Do you have any ideal of the madness you speak?? Go and relook at said PRC and sak yourself does this need boosted?

Ok changes, straight conversion here

Race shifter
Know nature 8 ranks. Know religion 1 rank
2nd level divine spells

Wild shape changes to the new version

Also change save to the new saves for PRC and your pretty much done. Everything else would work the same way I would think

So by the changes it will be at lest 9th level before you can take the class, needing 8 ranks in the knowledge skill{ the +3 class bonus does not count toward ranks)

wait with 8ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?


Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.


Aaron Bitman wrote:
Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.

I know I've been told, thanks tho


MrTheThird wrote:

wait with 8ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?

Correct. You have to meet all prerequisites before selecting a level in the prestige class.


Welcome! and keep asking for your newbie cookies ;)


MrTheThird wrote:


wait with 8 ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?

No, you need the 8 ranks before you may take the PRC. AS you must be 8th level to have 8 ranks, you can not take the PRC at level 8 as you will only have 7 before you level

At the start of level 9 you will have 8 ranks, and at that point you can then take the PRC

By the way this is not a new rule. In 3.5 you needed 11 ranks, which meant 8th level, so in 3.5 you still could not take the PRC before 9th level

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MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Welcome! *takes out fresh-baked, lactose-free, gluten-free chocolate chip cookies from the oven* Have a cookie! (And no, I'm not Lilith. Just acting in her stead until she wakes from her coffin.)


Welcome, Mr The Third.

Dark Archive

MrTheThird wrote:
Aaron Bitman wrote:
Many people contributed their ideas about converting Eberron races, including Shifters, in this thread.
I know I've been told, thanks tho

Here's another thread.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:


wait with 8 ranks needed couldn't you enter the class at level 8?

No, you need the 8 ranks before you may take the PRC. AS you must be 8th level to have 8 ranks, you can not take the PRC at level 8 as you will only have 7 before you level

At the start of level 9 you will have 8 ranks, and at that point you can then take the PRC

By the way this is not a new rule. In 3.5 you needed 11 ranks, which meant 8th level, so in 3.5 you still could not take the PRC before 9th level

Wow I really had a stupid moment there lol and yum cookies


MrTheThird! I seem to have been preempted in the welcoming, but nonetheless, I shall give you your cookies! *offers virtual cookies for the new guy* Welcome to the boards!


Prempting the Demon Queen of Greetings and Baked Goods? Never! We were simply setting the stage for your appearance.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Prempting the Demon Queen of Greetings and Baked Goods? Never! We were simply setting the stage for your appearance.

I approve of this activity.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Prempting the Demon Queen of Greetings and Baked Goods? Never! We were simply setting the stage for your appearance.

Indeed some one had to light the candles and start the chanting. You can do a proper summons without candles and chanting


Lilith wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Prempting the Demon Queen of Greetings and Baked Goods? Never! We were simply setting the stage for your appearance.
I approve of this activity.

*Bows with flourish*


Puffy the Cup Cake wrote:
Yea! A convert. No egos on this forum, we're all having too much fun!

Nonsense. I have an ego the size of a planet!


MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!


From far off Jupiter: Psst, Kruelaid... Pluto's not a planet anymore.

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MrTheThird wrote:
I did lurk for a bit Before I signed up and I noticed that people seem to be a lot less tense and less judgmental.

Yeah; we're cool like that.

Welcome, Mr3rd.

-Skeld


Welcome to the forums, MrTheThird.


Kruelaid wrote:
Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!

That does look a bit like a sock puppet, kinda cute in the lets go blow some stuff up kinda way


Kruelaid wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!

GREETINGS. BOW YOUR HEAD BEFORE THE LORD OF PAIZO!


Kruelaid wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!

One of the greatest joys of these boards is beating that which has been already beaten to death.


Kruelaid wrote:
MrTheThird wrote:

Hello I'm new to this forum and wanted to say hi. I Came from the wizards forums because the majority of them seem to have a bit of an ego problem, I'm hoping this forum isn't anything like that. Oh and me and my group are also new to path finder and loving it.

Edit:I forgot to add my question lol.
Ok so one of my players want to use some eberon stuff(Shifter Race and the Moon Speaker PRC) so could anyone direct me to any helpful info(i have searched and found stuff for the Shifter But I couldn't find anything on the moon speaker).

Edit#2: Sorry I should have specified that I'm looking for a pathfinder version of the moonspeaker PRC.

Greetings. Now I'd like you to meet my sock puppets!

Remember, no lascivious posting is permitted here.


MrTheThird wrote:
Puffy the Cup Cake wrote:
Yea! A convert. No egos on this forum, we're all having too much fun!
I did lurk for a bit Before I signed up and I noticed that people seem to be a lot less tense and less judgmental.

We must be slipping.

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