Sometimes Scots are also made thanes. Didn't the Scots kill off the Pish, I mean, Picts?
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Pwn has passed into common usage, as has uber. Love em, hate em, doesn't matter, they're here to stay. Pwn I like, because to me it's evocative: I think about headshots. Uber less so because it makes me think about munchkins, and it rhymes with goober. If something can be described as uber I probably don't like whatever it is. Fail is starting to get old really fast... it's best used sparingly or it completely loses its impact.
except that uber is usually use properly, only the word is one of another language...
Pwn is still eluding me however. Is it an old spelling for 'own' of some kind of modern twist?
Thank you, Chris. The irony of one thread involving an argument over what people think the word "thane" might or might not mean, interwoven with a discussion of how dictionaries are obsolete because of the info-at-a-gesture Internet, was just too much for me to handle.
Word.
I was going to start quoting Macbeth
pwn is a mistake because the "O" is next to the "P" (and someone didn't have spellcheck)
except that uber is usually use properly, only the word is one of another language...
But it's not used properly, that's the problem. "Ueber" (there's an umlaut in German, but an umlaut is really an "e") means "above" -- as in von Fallersleben's lyrics to Haydn's Das Deutschlandlied. The words "Deutschland ueber Alles" mean "Germany Above All," in the sense that one should put a unified Germany before other goals. It does NOT mean "overpowered" or "pwning" or "super-duper."
Pwn has passed into common usage, as has uber. Love em, hate em, doesn't matter, they're here to stay. Pwn I like, because to me it's evocative: I think about headshots. Uber less so because it makes me think about munchkins, and it rhymes with goober. If something can be described as uber I probably don't like whatever it is. Fail is starting to get old really fast... it's best used sparingly or it completely loses its impact.except that uber is usually use properly, only the word is one of another language...
Pwn is still eluding me however. Is it an old spelling for 'own' of some kind of modern twist?
"Pwn" is a now-deliberate misspelling of "own," and therefore should be pronounced with a long O sound (PONE). It was a common misspelling in chats because the O and P keys are right next to each other. Like ZOMG, a common misspelling of OMG made common because the Z is next to the shift key. The misspelling was so common it became a tongue-in-cheek way of saying the same thing.
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Pwn has passed into common usage, as has uber. Love em, hate em, doesn't matter, they're here to stay. Pwn I like, because to me it's evocative: I think about headshots. Uber less so because it makes me think about munchkins, and it rhymes with goober. If something can be described as uber I probably don't like whatever it is. Fail is starting to get old really fast... it's best used sparingly or it completely loses its impact.except that uber is usually use properly, only the word is one of another language...
Pwn is still eluding me however. Is it an old spelling for 'own' of some kind of modern twist?
Nein!
Uber is an adverb (as an intensifier, not unlike the English word "very") or preposition ("over" or "above"), not an adjective, as it is commonly used in slang. "That's so uber" is an incorrect usage.
"Pwn" is a mispelling of "own", since the P and O are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard layout. It started as people picking on a common typographical error.
Edit: Double ninja'd.
Well, I'll agree that gish has lost its original particular meaning. It's kind of sad when somebody talks about a gish without knowing wtf a gish actually is (a githyanki f/m). Happy stick still makes me smile for every d8+1 (and it's $CHEAP$). Sword-and-board is hardly recent, or even originally D&D. Seems like I hear it most from SCA fighters.
Some terms do bother the bejeezus out of me though. MMO terms in a tabletop game: DPS, toon (your character is SPECIFICALLY NOT A CARTOON), pally, mob, and the like. Some MMO terms in D&D don't bother me: DoT, nuke, ding. Somehow they just fit. Curiously, D&D terms in MMOs never bother me: NPC, GM, XP, OOC, roll a character, etc.
Pwn has passed into common usage, as has uber. Love em, hate em, doesn't matter, they're here to stay. Pwn I like, because to me it's evocative: I think about headshots. Uber less so because it makes me think about munchkins, and it rhymes with goober. If something can be described as uber I probably don't like whatever it is. Fail is starting to get old really fast... it's best used sparingly or it completely loses its impact.
I like even better though portmanteaux like curbstomp and skulldrag, because they supply such concrete imagery.
Never heard gish and still don't know what it's supposed to mean. Gestalt?
I don't mind DPS in D&D, because rounds are a constant measurement of time, but I don't hear it used often. Toon, however, makes no sense in D&D terms.
I don't use roll in MMOs or D&D, because I haven't actually ROLLED a character since 1996.
You leave memes out of this!
Is it OK to discuss allele frequencies, then?
Or should I just shut up and pretend to be in a glass box?
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Sometimes Scots are also made thanes. Didn't the Scots kill off the Pish, I mean, Picts?
Yes, they Pict them off when no one was looking.
just because something gets added, doesn't mean you can't fight back. I try very hard to not end a sentence with a preposition, even if it stilts my language.
Then again, I've infected my co-workers with 'frak' so I may have a bit of a double standard. ;-)
Memetic? Argh!!!
They're named after the githyanki fighter/mage caste from the 1e Fiend Folio.
Fixed it for ya.
FF had the castes? I thought they were a later addition.
They weren't called that, but the flavor seemed to be leaning that way, if you read the description. EDIT: Or maybe I just read too much into it. The FF was full of stuff that could be easily misconstrued, like a death knight being "made from a fallen human paladin." Is it an animated paladin corpse, picked up off a battlefield by the forces of evil who defeated him? Or a corrupted paladin who breaks his vows? You decide!
Save the "fixed that for you" nonsense for when you're right, then.
I'm right; when I say, "not called that," I'm referring to the term "caste," NOT to the term "gish." Plucking my quote out of context certainly would lead to misunderstanding on that point.
The "gish" term was specifically listed in the 1e FF as a fighter/magic-user. There's no ambiguity there.
Save the "fixed that for you" nonsense for when you're right, then.I'm right; when I say, "not called that," I'm referring to the term "caste," NOT to the term "gish." Plucking my quote out of context certainly would lead to misunderstanding on that point.
The "gish" term was specifically listed in the 1e FF as a fighter/magic-user. There's no ambiguity there.
Ah, OK. Then I had read it, but forgot it. Still have my old 1e FF. Actually, I have someone else's because he must have picked up mine in a game in the late 80s. Wonder if he re-colored the pictures in my book like he had done in his own.
Who wants to put Kirth into a box?
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And Kirth, at the risk of adding to your frustration, I've got to ask...
why a glass box?
Dudes I am like sooo totally on board with this whole banning net speak movment. It is like a tottaly b!@%!'n idea that is ya know totally b+$&~'n.
I mean what kinnda tool uses netspeak that is like tottaly lame, like ya know gag me with a spoon lame.
I mean like OH MY GOD! what ya know country do these people come from ya know.
Like get outta my facial with this dumb talk, this is like ya know america speak english ya know.
I think I have made my point. English is an evolving language and as it changes it is going to be new and diffrent but not wrong per sey. Ya Know!
They will be more comfortable in the emerging Noosphere than we can ever be.
I've never heard of noosphere before. Thanks for sharing that link; it's quite intriguing.
But it's not used properly, that's the problem. "Ueber" (there's an umlaut in German, but an umlaut is really an "e") means "above" -- as in von Fallersleben's lyrics to Haydn's Das Deutschlandlied. The words "Deutschland ueber Alles" mean "Germany Above All," in the sense that one should put a unified Germany before other goals. It does NOT mean "overpowered" or "pwning" or "super-duper."
Actually, I believe uber means over (there's a couple German native speakers roaming on Paizo that can verify one way or the other). Nietzsche's Ubermensch comes to mind. You can blame english bastardization and a visitor from Krypton for its current meaning of super.
Dudes I am like sooo totally on board with this whole banning net speak movment. It is like a tottaly b%%*%'n idea that is ya know totally b%%*%'n.
I mean what kinnda tool uses netspeak that is like tottaly lame, like ya know gag me with a spoon lame.
I mean like OH MY GOD! what ya know country do these people come from ya know.Like get outta my facial with this dumb talk, this is like ya know america speak english ya know.
I think I have made my point. English is an evolving language and as it changes it is going to be new and diffrent but not wrong per sey. Ya Know!
Let's evolve a new name for it, too. Instead of English, Poopspeak.
why a glass box?
It was a play on memes/mimes, with "leave them out of this" suggesting that if not, they need to get out themselves [of the imaginary box they're always miming].
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Oh were teaching them, but now the standards are Lowest Common Denominator. We can't make anyone feel bad if they can't keep up after all.
I agree. The idea that designers have to code to the lowest common denominator (and my non-existent hat's off to you for using lowest common denominator in a perfect contextual statement), teachers teach to it, everything is resolved there. It's... disappointing. It makes me realize that no matter how bad things seem to get in the world, there's always room for them to deteriorate further. I'm one of those pesky optimists, so this is... disappointing.
English is a constantly-evolving concept. One person's slang acronym ("OK") becomes the next generation's shorthand for assent. In twenty years, WTF and LOL will be perfectly reasonable words in the English language.
Exactly. And while I understand cultural and linguistic evolution, it's still frustrating to hear people say things that are transliterated from text. "I LOL'ed" sounds stupid to my ears when spoken out loud. Yet every year, things like Unabridged Dictionaries (I can't remember precisely WHICH one) add words like "McJob" and "Dead Presidents" and 'officially' define them. Now, on the flip side, I do understand the sentiment behind some abbreviations. At work, I often use the phrase "Whisky Tango Foxtrot" to describe something I don't understand and "Charlie Foxtrot" to describe something that's ... sub-optimal. That's an example of linguistic evolution from my near-brush with the USMC and being a military geek.
The Internet is one of the most transformative tools Humankind has yet to create, next to perhaps fire or the wheel. We are in the midst of its unfolding true potential, so it can seem scary, but it has already made an impact on almost every facet of our lives. It is pure information, and information can be used for good or ill, like any tool. I know I already gave my encyclopedias and dictionaries away. Our children will have access to data at a gesture that it once took lifetimes of memorization to achieve. It's as big a shift as going to the written word rather than oral histories. Our children are growing up with computers as a fait accompli. They will be more comfortable in the emerging Noosphere than we can ever be.
Technology marches on, and I salute that. I am an unabashed technophile. I'm pretty sure I had this little girly squeal when I opened my new Droid Eris phone's box and inhaled deeply of the awesomely technophilic contents therein. The fact that, with said device, I am:
a) Always generating GPS data
b) Always able to surf the World Wide Web as long as I'm in a major metropolitan area (and in many rural areas)
c) Able to send and receive emails, take pictures, know what the local weather is (both where I am and in any major metro area), have a flashlight and a compass, generate recordings of my own voice, check my (non-existent) stock portfolio, listen to Rush (that's the first thing I loaded to said device to test its playback capabilities) and record video ALL WHILE TALKING ON THE PHONE...
It's truly terrifying. But only in the best possible way.
The kids will be fine. They aren't us, which is always scary, because older generations always hate to see their culture become obsolete, but we are on a cusp of some very transformative times if can manage to keep from lobbing nukes at each other for a few decades.
I'm more worried that my generation, or possibly more likely the one directly before mine, will be the ones lobbing nukes. In all honesty, I'm not afraid of technology. I'm not afraid of change. (One of my usernames of choice is 'Chaotral' which is short for "Chaotic Neutral") It's just that I'm a linguistics geek. Furthermore, English is my stock in trade as a fantasy/sci-fantasy/sci-fi author. Watching the language change in the span of a decade due to lowest common denominator thinking just grates on my last nerve.
And what's worst? I USE IT TOO!!!!
*sighs and wanders off to shoo kids off her lawn*
They will be more comfortable in the emerging Noosphere than we can ever be.I've never heard of noosphere before. Thanks for sharing that link; it's quite intriguing.
I like the symmetry of the philosophy. And you can really see the informational noosphere taking form all around us. It's quite fascinating really. Did you catch the link about sixth sense technology MIT is working on? That is quite interesting as well.
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I like the symmetry of the philosophy. And you can really see the informational noosphere taking form all around us. It's quite fascinating really.
Human thought is an interesting thing to watch as it takes shape. My personal weapon of choice? Neuro-linguistic programming
I'm a kinesthetic learner to boot, so anything that I can touch and interact with I can learn.
I'm a kinesthetic learner to boot, so anything that I can touch and interact with I can learn.
Well, when technology unshackles us from the computer and lets us glean information from the various objects in our daily lives, then you will be one happy Kinesthetic learner.
Actually, I believe uber means over (there's a couple German native speakers roaming on Paizo that can verify one way or the other). Nietzsche's Ubermensch comes to mind. You can blame english bastardization and a visitor from Krypton for its current meaning of super.But it's not used properly, that's the problem. "Ueber" (there's an umlaut in German, but an umlaut is really an "e") means "above" -- as in von Fallersleben's lyrics to Haydn's Das Deutschlandlied. The words "Deutschland ueber Alles" mean "Germany Above All," in the sense that one should put a unified Germany before other goals. It does NOT mean "overpowered" or "pwning" or "super-duper."
My 1 year of High School German in the US, 2 week German refresher course in the UK, and 4 months employment in Germany tell me that Über to mean pretty much what the literal meaning of Super is: Above (Superscript anyone???), Exceptional (Superhuman anyone???), etc.
Blame modern multilingualism for bringing pieces of other languages into English at an increased rate than historically normal. But don't say that a single part of a definition defines a word. That may be more silly in English than other languages, but other languages have multiple uses of words/prefixes/suffixes too.
NEWB!
AGGRO!
OMGDOGONFIREGOTTAGOBAI!
Just so long as my philosophy can be both robust and elegant... 'cause it is.
EDIT: And also my prose.
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Well, when technology unshackles us from the computer and lets us glean information from the various objects in our daily lives, then you will be one happy Kinesthetic learner.
I'm getting there. My Droid Eris and I are getting along well. "Oh look, I can TOUCH this and it DOES STUFF!!" I'm really waiting for Augmented Reality stuff to take off. Some cell phones already have an AR functionality which allows them to overlay realtime image data with digital information. I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.
So...I'm a new driver and my sister thinks a giant "n00b" sign would be most fitting. I said no thanks I don't want to be pwned in real life. Just think of all the 1st person shooter nerds trying to take my bumper off...
While we're banning terms, I'd like to add "Dead Tree" to the list..
It's strange, I am a huge bibliophile, but I love the semi-snarky sound of 'dead tree'. It tickles my funnybone. And it is true.
Robust sould be limited to coffee, I'll give you that one CJ.
I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.
Heh. Assuming we keep our discreet individualities after the Singularity, I invite you to my real-time D&D world based on Planescape (full sensory immersion, natch)
While we're banning terms, I'd like to add "Dead Tree" to the list. That and the use of elegant or robust when talking about game mechanics.
But, the elegant dead tree version of the robust Pathfinder RPG rules is totally appropriate! I mean, they are Uber!
I think the dead tree is robust, but the version of the rules is elegant.
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I'm getting there. My Droid Eris and I are getting along well. "Oh look, I can TOUCH this and it DOES STUFF!!" I'm really waiting for Augmented Reality stuff to take off. Some cell phones already have an AR functionality which allows them to overlay realtime image data with digital information. I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.
Well, when technology unshackles us from the computer and lets us glean information from the various objects in our daily lives, then you will be one happy Kinesthetic learner.
I have to wait 17 more days before I can get one.
Not that I'm counting.
I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.
Posters are a dead medium. ;-)
except that uber is usually use properly, only the word is one of another language...But it's not used properly, that's the problem. "Ueber" (there's an umlaut in German, but an umlaut is really an "e") means "above" -- as in von Fallersleben's lyrics to Haydn's Das Deutschlandlied. The words "Deutschland ueber Alles" mean "Germany Above All," in the sense that one should put a unified Germany before other goals. It does NOT mean "overpowered" or "pwning" or "super-duper."
I think that use of "über" is due to Nietsche's "Übermensch" a.k.a "superman" (no, not the one from Krypton).
I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.Posters are a dead medium. ;-)
Not entirely, but you had better be working for a major department store (in shopping malls) or a movie production company. Otherwise I believe hanging posters (in the US) requires a local government permit/registration and/or permission from the property owner, under certain specifications.
Things like 'Yard Sale' and 'Special(s) of the Day' seem acceptable as I've never seen/heard of anyone fined for those examples, but I have known folks who were fined for hanging 'concert announcements' that involved local talent.
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I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.Heh. Assuming we keep our discreet individualities after the Singularity, I invite you to my real-time D&D world based on Planescape (full sensory immersion, natch)
I'm sure I don't speak only for myself on these boards when I say... FRICKIN AWESOME! To full sensory immersion roleplaying.
Edit: As long as they figure out some "elegant" mechanic to make a blow with an axe not feel like you really got hit with an axe, because that would get old fast.
I'm sure I don't speak only for myself on these boards when I say... FRICKIN AWESOME! To full sensory immersion roleplaying.I AM the poster-girl for the Singularity.Heh. Assuming we keep our discreet individualities after the Singularity, I invite you to my real-time D&D world based on Planescape (full sensory immersion, natch)
It depends are you going to throw blood at me when I skewer/pulverize people, or am I responsible for generating my own arterial spray? Ya know for the confirmed crits.
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I have to wait 17 more days before I can get one.Not that I'm counting.
Definitely worth the wait. I love the intuitive operating system. I never picked up the manual until I needed to figure out how to dump files onto it from my PC,as it didn't come with an install disk. (You plug it in, wait for the PC to recognize it, then touch and drag on the top bar on the main screen and tell it to mount the device as a drive... et voila)
The apps are nifty, and I've already got a pseudo-Wayfinder theme working. (compass+flashlight=pseudo-Wayfinder)
Enjoy!
Posters are a dead medium. ;-)
Tell that to the big box weenies who still have the rotating stock of about 50 near the books section of the store. The one that I can't stop flipping through on the off chance of finding something nifty.
Heh. Assuming we keep our discreet individualities after the Singularity, I invite you to my real-time D&D world based on Planescape (full sensory immersion, natch)
Count me IN!
I'm sure I don't speak only for myself on these boards when I say... FRICKIN AWESOME! To full sensory immersion roleplaying.Edit: As long as they figure out some "elegant" mechanic to make a blow with an axe not feel like you really got hit with an axe, because that would get old fast.
*shrugs* For some, getting hit with an axe can be fun. For others, it's a really good reason to RAISE YOUR ARMOR CLASS.. *grins*
Edit: As long as they figure out some "elegant" mechanic to make a blow with an axe not feel like you really got hit with an axe, because that would get old fast.
Yeah I'm sure that pain will be mitigated somewhat. I would imagine there would be different 'comfort level' settings in thee whole immersion process..