Wands and Feats


Rules Questions


Any Core Feats that work with Wands?


Precise Shot...

Sovereign Court

Work with wands to do what exactly? What question are you asking?

Craft Wand works great with Wands, at least in the making of them aspect of wands?


Metamagic feats can also be used when creating them. Although the level 4 cap generally limits the availability of useful spells to put in them.


Didn't think of that one.

Just feats that would be useful if you wanted to use wands.

Can you take Improved Critical with wands? That sort of thing.

Morgen wrote:

Work with wands to do what exactly? What question are you asking?

Craft Wand works great with Wands, at least in the making of them aspect of wands?


With wands? No. But you can take weapon focus (rays) or weapon focus (touch attacks) or improved critical (rays)... and if the wand produces an effect that is a ray you would gain the benefit of the feat.


Quick Draw might also come in useful when using wands.

Sovereign Court

Quick draw no longer allows you to draw out wands, scrolls or the like anymore. Only melee or ranged weapons.

If you want to use wants, you just use them. You don't need extra feats to empower wands! That's what Staves are for!

Staves get to use your caster attribute, your caster level if it's higher and are rechargeable if you know the right spells.

If you absolutely must for some reason deal with a wand, go with the wizard and make it your bound item, then at least you can keep making new ones.


Yet another feat to house rule in for my group

Wand Slinger: You may draw a wand as a free action instead of a move action.


There is a feat in the campaign settings book that acts like the spring attack feat for wands.

Wands do have something over staves in that they don't provoke. Staves being spell completion do.


Weylin wrote:

Yet another feat to house rule in for my group

Wand Slinger: You may draw a wand as a free action instead of a move action.

This raises an interesting question: Can you draw a wand as a free action combined with a regular move if you have a BAB of +1 or higher?

I'm not sure how I would arbitrate that, from a rules-lawyer perspective.

The RAW (page 186-187) definitely says that you can draw weapons as a free action, combined with a regular move, if your BAB is +1 or higher. And the same section states "This action also applies to weapon-like objects carried in easy reach, such as wands."

So by inference, one might assume you could, as a free action, draw a wand as part of a move action.

Then again, the bit about the free action is in a seaparate paragraph than the bit about wands, and that separate paragraph specifically cites "draw a weapon as a free action...", which could be argued to say that the author deliberately said "weapon" here to clarify that this paragraph is not a ocntinuation of the previous one, therefore it is also not a continuation of the reference to wands.

Sadly, it seems that either interpretation is quite valid as written.

Me, I would rule that you can draw the wand as easily as you can draw a sword, meaning it's a free action during another move action (with BAB +1 or higher, of course) - as long as the wand is at least as accessible as a sheathed sword. But if the wand is buried in a backpack (making it hard to reach), or jammed in with multiple other wands in some kind of quiver (making you spend at least a little time feeling each wand until you find the right one).

That just seems to be the rational call.

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DM_Blake wrote:
This raises an interesting question: Can you draw a wand as a free action combined with a regular move if you have a BAB of +1 or higher?

This is an "Ask your DM" question.

If your DM certifies that your Wand is stored in a "weapon like" fashion, then you may draw it with a Move (and BAB +1.)

If your DM reject the notion that you can stick a Wand in a "weapon like ready to draw" place on your person, then you can't draw it with a Move action (and BAB +1) and would need to spend a move action to draw it (or more if stored inside a bag.


James Risner wrote:
DM_Blake wrote:
This raises an interesting question: Can you draw a wand as a free action combined with a regular move if you have a BAB of +1 or higher?

This is an "Ask your DM" question.

If your DM certifies that your Wand is stored in a "weapon like" fashion, then you may draw it with a Move (and BAB +1.)

If your DM reject the notion that you can stick a Wand in a "weapon like ready to draw" place on your person, then you can't draw it with a Move action (and BAB +1) and would need to spend a move action to draw it (or more if stored inside a bag.

This is why the last sorcerer I played in Forgotten Realms had custom made thigh sheathes made that could hold 6 wands each with a decent space between each wand. hard to argue they are not stored in a "weapon like fashion" when rogues are doing the same thing with throwing knives. In game, it was actually done at a rogue's suggestions to the sorcerer.


there are wrist sheaths you can take them out as a move action or if possible attach a weapon cord to them prehaps and get them with a swift action.
although it'd look silly to have wands dangling off your arms while walking around in a city, unless you have an approprite outfit to hide them in i can think off a few outfits that would work in civilized place and even then only on occation unless you're a bard.


Whoooo. I feel dizzy. Did I just get resurrected?

Nah, I'm a tarrasque, I probably just got up and wandered away 3 rounds after this thread died...

But since the whole thread is alive again, I wonder if there's new light to shed on the OP's question?


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Abrir wrote:

there are wrist sheaths you can take them out as a move action or if possible attach a weapon cord to them prehaps and get them with a swift action.

although it'd look silly to have wands dangling off your arms while walking around in a city, unless you have an approprite outfit to hide them in i can think off a few outfits that would work in civilized place and even then only on occation unless you're a bard.

Retrieving a weapon with a weapon cord is now a move action.

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