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This thread will end up being priceless if "Jaime kills her in the last chapter of the final book" Maybe then I will believe you are GRRM. Guess we only have to wait 30 years to find out. Seriously, when is the next book?
Probably 2015-6.
I think whatever happens in the end will be determined by the coming of Winter and how people react to it. Except for a small number in the North, most people seem to have forgotten what's coming.
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I think whatever happens in the end will be determined by the coming of Winter and how people react to it. Except for a small number in the North, most people seem to have forgotten what's coming.
'Tis true. These armies on the march have probably eaten up every scrap of food that was to be stored in preparation for such an event, so that once winter comes, anybody who didn't die in the battles is going to starve to death in a matter of months anyway. The defenses in the North have had their head cut off with the fall of Winterfel, so that any problems coming south are going to cut through the remaining northern lords like a scythe.
Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.
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I think whatever happens in the end will be determined by the coming of Winter and how people react to it. Except for a small number in the North, most people seem to have forgotten what's coming.'Tis true. These armies on the march have probably eaten up every scrap of food that was to be stored in preparation for such an event, so that once winter comes, anybody who didn't die in the battles is going to starve to death in a matter of months anyway. The defenses in the North have had their head cut off with the fall of Winterfel, so that any problems coming south are going to cut through the remaining northern lords like a scythe.
Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.
Major one from the books.
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I bet Jaime kills her in the last chapter of the final book. That would be a treat. I love Jaime.
I think the likelyhood of Jaime getting roasted by a dragon in one of those dark ironic moments GRRM loves so much is way, way higher.
Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.
The Summer Isles seem to be permanently tropical, but we've never been there to know for sure.
My heart went out to him in this scene Seriously
Yeah, major burn. Poor guy, but Dany simply doesn't love him in this way.
My heart went out to him in this scene Seriously
I thought it was a bit overplayed. I get that he got all heartbroken and stuff, but that's just Jorah being an idiot. Even if she wasn't girl-crushing on the guy, I think it's a fair question. "I sent out three guys. Only two of you return, what happened to the last guy?"
Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.The Summer Isles seem to be permanently tropical, but we've never been there to know for sure.
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Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.
According to GRRM, in a 'normal' winter the North is covered in snow and there is a big risk of starvation and famine (which is why the North is so lightly-populated for its immense size). The major castles are built around features which allow them to survive better, such as Winterfell's hot springs, the Dreadfort's volcanic vents and some of the other castles being built near rivers were ice-fishing is still possible even in the worst winters. As we see in ADWD, the Night's Watch uses the foundations of the Wall as a giant freezer and can store food down there for five or six years without it spoiling.
In the North there's also a system whereby remote villages and farms will close up at a certain point (usually alerted by the maesters, or when farming becomes physically impossible) and withdraw to the nearest big castle or town, where a 'winter town' will be located consisting of residences that are only occupied during the winter (Winterfell has such a town outside its walls). They'll hole up there for the winter and hope it's a short one.
The Vale, the Riverlands, the Iron Islands, the Westerlands and the northern Crownlands commonly get snow, but far less than in the North. They make similar arrangements but generally don't need to be quite so extreme.
The southern Crownlands (including King's Landing), the Stormlands and the northern Reach don't see snow frequently, but it's not unknown. They can usually get through the winter more easily than everyone to the north, but it can still be a hard grind in a really bad winter.
The southern Reach and Dorne apparently 'never' see snow, although it gets a fair bit colder than what they are used to.
Essos does also suffer from the crazy seasons, but the entire continent is located to the south of the North and extends in a south-easterly direction towards the equator. Most of the civilised parts of the continent are located south even of the latitude of Dorne, and thus also never see snow. The Dothraki sea does suffer (the grasses die, and you can see this in ADWD) and Braavos's canals freeze over.
The Summer Islands, the northern-tip of which is located 700 miles south even of Dorne and extend for a thousand miles or more to the south, are likely balmy and warm year-round.
Of course, all of this is in a normal winter. If this next winter is the Long Night come again (a winter that lasted 'a generation', so decades, not just a few year), then all bets are off.
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Exactly how far 'winter' goes was never really clear to me. Does it cross the sea and affect that southern continent? The flat-roofed architecture and skimpy dress suggests they've never seen snow, despite having cities that brag about being around for centuries.The Summer Isles seem to be permanently tropical, but we've never been there to know for sure.
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I think HBO has signed up Game of Thrones for at least 9 seasons.
There are seven books planned, they have to stretch those remaining books out.
Interestingly enough, I though there were several deviations from the book in this one particular episode, that I would consider 'not needed'.
They must be setting up a few things for future episodes, but they are starting to stray far.
I particularly did not like
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Is Jon Snow actually a Targaryan?
I bet Jaime kills her in the last chapter of the final book. That would be a treat. I love Jaime.
This season was way beyond my expectations, tough I wish there were more scenes with Tormund, Vargo, also where's Belwas.
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Maybe i am? Maybe i am GRRM and you didn't know all this time?
If you were, your posts would be like 7 years apart :)
I think HBO has signed up Game of Thrones for at least 9 seasons.
There are seven books planned, they have to stretch those remaining books out.
HBO has actually only 'signed up' GAME OF THRONES for one more season next year. The showrunners want to do eight seasons (80 episodes), and one of the other executive producers is confident that will get to at least seven seasons. But legally, on paper, only Season 4 is a dead cert. They start filming that on 8 July and it'll air in March or April 2014.
As for the books, there are indeed seven planned but the 'one book per season' thing has gone out the window (Season 3 ends about two-thirds of the way through Book 3; the rest will be next year along with some elements from Book 4 and 5). How the remaining books will be adapted is something that's going to be very interesting to see - I'm contributing to an article on io9 about this right now, actually - but I think it's going to be a looser and faster adaptation moving forwards, with more stories and characters moving around, new characters simply not appearing and some elements being simplified and streamlined.
Or to put it another way, I think the producers will be producing a roadmap going from the end of Season 3 to the last episode of the series, using the published books and GRRM's notes and outlines for the unpublished ones, and will be following that. At this stage, them overtaking the books and finishing the story first is almost inevitable, bar the show being cancelled.
I wonder how many episodes next year will be needed/used to finishe book 3. I found that book 4 and 5 (mostly 5) the series goes off the rails a little bit but that just be me.
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My heart went out to him in this scene SeriouslyI thought it was a bit overplayed. I get that he got all heartbroken and stuff, but that's just Jorah being an idiot. Even if she wasn't girl-crushing on the guy, I think it's a fair question. "I sent out three guys. Only two of you return, what happened to the last guy?"
I kind of wanted him to answer: "Unfortunately, he survived."
I wonder how many episodes next year will be needed/used to finishe book 3. I found that book 4 and 5 (mostly 5) the series goes off the rails a little bit but that just be me.Spoiler:Didnt the guy with the eagle die in book 5 at the hand of another?
There are several scenarios for next season. One is that they complete Book 3 by around Episode 5 and move into stuff from Books 4 and 5 at that point. That's doable, but the problem is that the early parts of Book 4 and 5 are lacking a suitable "OMG!" moment for the end of the season, a structure which HBO seems to be wedded to at the momnet.
More likely is that the characters will go onto somewhat different tracks. Characters from Book 3 with massive, "BOOM!" moments might have those moments saved for the end of the season, such as
I think the general shape of the series going forwards is that the book-per-season thing is gone, and they will now adapt the series in a manner that makes for good television over fidelity to the books. The same things will happen, but not necessarily at the same rate or in the same order.
Regarding the eagle:
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Okay......questions
Was Arya praying to the death god? in last night's episode or summoning the assassin?
The Lannister linage goes back to so adventuring party. Does that mean Marco Polo style adventuring party or a more what happens in our AP adventuring party?
Is there place I can look up what the old gods are compared to the new gods?
George R R Martin with some spoilers from the Conan show.
I'm not that surprised, it's a commercial world; Kingslayer sounds like a pretty awesome band though.
Okay......questions
Was Arya praying to the death god? in last night's episode or summoning the assassin?
I haven't read the books, but I believe that wasn't a prayer or a summons, just Arya suddenly realizing "Hey, I should totally go to Braavos."
Okay......questions
Is there place I can look up what the old gods are compared to the new gods?
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Okay......questions
Was Arya praying to the death god? in last night's episode or summoning the assassin?Is there place I can look up what the old gods are compared to the new gods?
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When Arya does utter the names of all those she intends to kill nightly, this could be considered a form of prayer to Death, as it steels her resolve.
However when Arya says Valar Morghulis she is not necessarily praying (there is but one god, and he is Death, and the only thing you say to Death is 'not today') rather she is uttering a customary saying from Essos.
- Valar Morghulis translates to 'all men must die' in High Valyrian, and is traditionally answered with Valar Dohaeris.
Could someone post a spoiler blurb on what martin said about hodor and future stuff. The videos wont load for mes
Could someone post a spoiler blurb on what martin said about hodor and future stuff. The videos wont load for mes
It was a joke video. He said that Arya Stark would find the ruins of the Statue of Liberty and realize she'd been on Earth the entire time. That sort of thing.
What he said about Hodor (twice) was "Hodor."
Martin let it slip that Hodor would be sitting on the iron throne at the end of the books.
The aforementioned io9 article I contributed to. We talk pretty heavily about events from Books 4 and 5, so SPOILERS and definitely don't read if you're not up to date on the books.
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Okay......questions
Was Arya praying to the death god? in last night's episode or summoning the assassin?
I haven't read the books, but I believe that wasn't a prayer or a summons, just Arya suddenly realizing "Hey, I should totally go to Braavos."
Okay......questions
Is there place I can look up what the old gods are compared to the new gods?
That link was exactly what my wife and I were looking for
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The Doom of Valyria appears to have destroyed - or reduced to near-nothing - magic in the western world. In the east, in places like Asshai, it never went away. In the books they mention that past kings summoned sorcerers from places like Asshai to help hatch the dragon eggs, and those sorcerers - whose powers worked just fine in Asshai - were surprised to find nothing they could do worked.
The cut-off point is hard to identify, but it seems to be somewhere around Qarth and Lhazar. West of that, magic vanished in the Doom and is now coming back, whilst to the east it was fine all along.
Do the Faceless Men use magic?
The existance of wights in the prologue of GOT, Bloodraven speaking to Bran in his dreams, the the fact that the Wall and Storm's end still stood intact, all sugeest that magic was not gone in the west, just dialed down.
what caused the resurgance? I think it just might be nautral timing..what ever damage Valaryia did is fading..like radioactive dust losing its potency.
The awakening of the White Walkers/Others at the start of AGoT, or maybe a few years earlier, has also been linked to the return of magic. There's quite a few different possibilities.