Wesley Schneider


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Wesley gets all diabolical talking about the Princes of Darkness book, plus some other scoops about free Pathfinder stuff on Free RPG Day.

And, you know, more.

Interview is at koboldquarterly.com, natch.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Wesley gets all diabolical talking about the Princes of Darkness book, plus some other scoops about free Pathfinder stuff on Free RPG Day.

And, you know, more.

Interview is at koboldquarterly.com, natch.

Wesley said:

"I’m also in charge of ordering art"

Hey Wes, how about some EROL OTUS art? Especially for the tentacly, aberrations, and such.

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I'm pretty sure Mr. Otus is out of the art biz, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

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You're wrong.

He's done a fair amount of stuff for Goodman Games, and is a darling of the Old School Renaissance.


Erik Mona wrote:

You're wrong.

He's done a fair amount of stuff for Goodman Games, and is a darling of the Old School Renaissance.

I don't call him "darling", but he is god as sure as Clapton is god. I want to see some of his art in a Pathfinder product.


His website is perpetually shuffling towards the light, but never coming into it. I wish Otus would draw a picture of Wes. The one on KQ makes me feel old and curmudgeony.

Recent interview of Otus.

In any event, the teasers about Book of the Damned I have me excited. Good interview.

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I'm wrong, hurray!

Clearly I don't read enough Goodman stuff.

Liberty's Edge

excellent interview definitively


The one thing that jumps out and grips me the most:

"Whether you make a fighter who can help cure a disease or create a cleric who can really pile on the magic damage, adventures are won or lost entirely by choices made in the moment, not at character creation."

More options! More options! More options!

That alone sounds worth the asking price for PF!


cthulhudarren wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

You're wrong.

He's done a fair amount of stuff for Goodman Games, and is a darling of the Old School Renaissance.

I don't call him "darling", but he is god as sure as Clapton is god. I want to see some of his art in a Pathfinder product.

I agree. If the Old Schoolers call him 'darling' it's for a good reason.

There might be better technical artists, but his style is evocative in the way that few others are. Before Cthulthu was a household name, I started reading HP Lovecraft because of E.O.'s artwork.

I'd keep WAR on the big cover, but I would definitely welcome some Otus art in a Pathfinder product.

That aside....

Great interview with Wes!

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Another "old school" fan of EO, here.

That picture of Wes makes me feel soooo old. I didn't realize they let people who can't vote work at Paizo. :)


Watcher wrote:
cthulhudarren wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

You're wrong.

He's done a fair amount of stuff for Goodman Games, and is a darling of the Old School Renaissance.

I don't call him "darling", but he is god as sure as Clapton is god. I want to see some of his art in a Pathfinder product.

I agree. If the Old Schoolers call him 'darling' it's for a good reason.

There might be better technical artists, but his style is evocative in the way that few others are. Before Cthulthu was a household name, I started reading HP Lovecraft because of E.O.'s artwork.

I'd keep WAR on the big cover, but I would definitely welcome some Otus art in a Pathfinder product.

There's a good reason that the only old DnD product I still have is 1st edition Deities and Demigods with the Cthulhu Mythos.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Just in case anyone read my comment about Otus as a criticism, let me be clear that he is among my very favorite D&D artists of all time, and is tied for my favorite AD&D artist (I am a sucker for Jeff Dee).

Unlike Dee, however, Otus is willing to draw modern images in the style that made him famous, so he gets extra credit for that.

We do not currently have very much black and white art in our products. I'd love to work with Erol on something if the right project came along.

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What is an example of a piece of art by Otus? Just curious, because I've heard the name, but am not sure what his work looks like.

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Sebastian wrote:
What is an example of a piece of art by Otus? Just curious, because I've heard the name, but am not sure what his work looks like.

Link for you.

http://jrients.tripod.com/otus/Image7.jpg

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
What is an example of a piece of art by Otus? Just curious, because I've heard the name, but am not sure what his work looks like.

Erol Otus did this cover

(edit) the link wouldn't go to the specific cover; it's issue 55 though.


Sebastian wrote:
What is an example of a piece of art by Otus? Just curious, because I've heard the name, but am not sure what his work looks like.
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Recent interview of Otus.

There's a link in the interview to a great fan site as well.


I enjoy his color illustrations a lot more than the B&W ones.


Erik Mona wrote:

Just in case anyone read my comment about Otus as a criticism, let me be clear that he is among my very favorite D&D artists of all time, and is tied for my favorite AD&D artist (I am a sucker for Jeff Dee).

Unlike Dee, however, Otus is willing to draw modern images in the style that made him famous, so he gets extra credit for that.

We do not currently have very much black and white art in our products. I'd love to work with Erol on something if the right project came along.

His color stuff is also awesome, Erik. I'd suggest him for anything alien, aberrant, sci-fi (red planet, etc), and of course Lovecraftian. I understand the need for a consistent look and feel for covers, though, so internal art would also be very welcome.


Sebastian wrote:
What is an example of a piece of art by Otus? Just curious, because I've heard the name, but am not sure what his work looks like.

The cover of the 1E Deities & Demigods, for instance.

Deities & Demigods cover


cthulhudarren wrote:
His color stuff is also awesome, Erik. I'd suggest him for anything alien, aberrant, sci-fi (red planet, etc), and of course Lovecraftian. I understand the need for a consistent look and feel for covers, though, so internal art would also be very welcome.

Exactly. If anything seems unillustratable, he's the illustrator for it. (My own preference would be for human figures to be kept out of his work.)


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
cthulhudarren wrote:
His color stuff is also awesome, Erik. I'd suggest him for anything alien, aberrant, sci-fi (red planet, etc), and of course Lovecraftian. I understand the need for a consistent look and feel for covers, though, so internal art would also be very welcome.
Exactly. If anything seems unillustratable, he's the illustrator for it. (My own preference would be for human figures be kept out of his work.)

Maybe when you publish the stats for an Akata Psi-Lord he can do it (though the one in PF14 is beautiful! - kudos to that artist as well!)

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Huh. Now that I know, I can't say I've ever been a big fan. His art was always a little too cartoony for me.

Liberty's Edge

I knew you'd say that.

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Heathansson wrote:
I knew you'd say that.

Hey now! I don't dislike all cartoony art - I like a lot of Kyle Hunter's stuff, and I dug the illustrations in early issues of RotRL.


Maybe I'm missing the nostalgia, but while quirky, its hardly what I would think of for supernatural horror or lovecraftian monstrosity.

Any links to said monsters? Maybe I just haven't seen the right pieces.

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I used to be very much NOT a fan (Trampier and DCS still define old school for me), but I find his work has grown on me a bit. I prefer the B&W over the color.

And of course, Otus was cartoony long before the anime style became popular. Which makes it just that much more amusing to me that the Old School "we hate anime" crowd embraces his work.

There's a definite cartoon vibe in a lot of the 1E and OD&D stuff. Isle of Dread cover, for instance.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
I knew you'd say that.
Hey now! I don't dislike all cartoony art - I like a lot of Kyle Hunter's stuff, and I dug the illustrations in early issues of RotRL.

No, I just knew while I was putting the link up, you'd go "....meh...." or something. It can't be helped.

Its....beyond your control.

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Oh, and WOW are we OT. :)

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Heathansson wrote:


No, I just knew while I was putting the link up, you'd go "....meh...." or something. It can't be helped.
Its....beyond your control.

Ahhh...

But thanks for the link Heathy! It actually goes right to the issue if you click on it twice (I'm not sure why that is).

Liberty's Edge

I like it cos I get this art deco by Clark Ashton Smith vibe.

Fits CofC well, since that all was sposed to go down in the 20's and whatnot.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
Heathansson wrote:


No, I just knew while I was putting the link up, you'd go "....meh...." or something. It can't be helped.
Its....beyond your control.

Ahhh...

But thanks for the link Heathy! It actually goes right to the issue if you click on it twice (I'm not sure why that is).

I'm just f@$&ing with you.


Definetly not my cup of tee. Too..... cute? Comical? Something like that. I can't quite describe it, it's just not my thing. Not in "serious" D&D/PF illustrations, at least. Might work for funny stuff.

Liberty's Edge

When you drink the tee, what do you do with the golf balls?


I think he's been drinking his alphabet soup.

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I think he's been drinking his alphabet soup.

Next is a cup of ewe?

O(n)T: I'm looking forward to Wes' take on devils in Pathfinder.


taig wrote:
That picture of Wes makes me feel soooo old. I didn't realize they let people who can't vote work at Paizo. :)

It's the smile and the haircut, I think. I'm sure in a few years all the consorting with devils will catch up to him.

Liberty's Edge

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

I used to be very much NOT a fan (Trampier and DCS still define old school for me), but I find his work has grown on me a bit. I prefer the B&W over the color.

And of course, Otus was cartoony long before the anime style became popular. Which makes it just that much more amusing to me that the Old School "we hate anime" crowd embraces his work.

There's a definite cartoon vibe in a lot of the 1E and OD&D stuff. Isle of Dread cover, for instance.

There's a difference between "cartoony" and "god, do ALL eyes have to be big, and ALL mouths have to be small?"

Yeah, I got nothing for manga/anime art, sorry...

D.A. Trampier was, is and always will be the MAN, btw...


Yes to Trampier. Now there's some B&W illustrations that I dig.

Wow, Wes is too busy with all the five alarm projects to comment on a thread named after him. Should we talk about him?

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taig wrote:

Another "old school" fan of EO, here.

That picture of Wes makes me feel soooo old. I didn't realize they let people who can't vote work at Paizo. :)

Let me assure you Wes is not the youngest person who works here.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Ross Byers wrote:
taig wrote:

Another "old school" fan of EO, here.

That picture of Wes makes me feel soooo old. I didn't realize they let people who can't vote work at Paizo. :)

Let me assure you Wes is not the youngest person who works here.

Now, why did you have to go and point that out? That's eeeevil!


A secret desire for abuse?

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
A secret desire for abuse?

Hey, yeah. Us old guys can gang up on Byers at PaizoCon and hit him with our walkers! :)

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taig wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
A secret desire for abuse?
Hey, yeah. Us old guys can gang up on Byers at PaizoCon and hit him with our walkers! :)

I'm not the youngest either.


What's up with the child labor laws in WA?

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
What's up with the child labor laws in WA?

That's it. I'm going to have to boycott Paizo because of their use of children in RPG-design sweatshops.


Oh...man...I love children. And I'm a law-abiding citizen. But this is Paizo we're talking about here...

If you think about it, there's a lot of children in the world, and when those children grow up, we want them to have a quality d20 fantasy game to play. I may just have to go with the greater good here.


Erik Mona wrote:

Just in case anyone read my comment about Otus as a criticism, let me be clear that he is among my very favorite D&D artists of all time, and is tied for my favorite AD&D artist (I am a sucker for Jeff Dee).

Unlike Dee, however, Otus is willing to draw modern images in the style that made him famous, so he gets extra credit for that.

We do not currently have very much black and white art in our products. I'd love to work with Erol on something if the right project came along.

Speaking for myself.. I didn't take it as a criticism from you. I don't label you as Old School, because you're the Publisher of Modern School- but the reputation of Erik Mona always hearkens your respect for the whole history of the game. I just wanted Wes to consider using E.O., if the right opportunity came along.

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Speaking of Wes, I remember meeting him at last GenCon. He joked with my friends and I, "Why does James get all the love?" And of course, we were embarrassed, because James Jacobs does often come across as the point man for the AP line.

So from that point I always knew that Wes was important, but not before this article did I realize WHAT AND HOW MUCH he (Wes) is responsible for!

It's very impressive! Wes shouldn't be in anybody's shadow!

And the Bestiary in ever chapter tends to be one of my favorite parts, because they are so detailed and kick a$$. It's a fact of life that the APs come out faster than I can play them, but along with the fiction, the Bestiary is something you can read and enjoy easily every month. Hence it's one of my favorites.

Go Wes!!!

Paizo Employee CEO

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Wow, Wes is too busy with all the five alarm projects to comment on a thread named after him. Should we talk about him?

Nope, Wes is on a mini-vacation. A much deserved one. So I don't WANT to see him posting on this thread. :)

-Lisa


Heathansson wrote:

When you drink the tee, what do you do with the golf balls?

Crunchy!

For the record: I'm German. I don't drink tea. I drink Tee ;-P.

Alright, that's a lie. It's usual Earl Grey, so it really is tea.

Let's just say it was a deliberate typo to give you guys a fun time.... >_>

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