Howl of the Carrion King... WOW!!!


Legacy of Fire


I just finished reading Howl of the Carion King today (started with the PDF and finished with the print version that arrived), and all I have to say is WOW! This is a phenominal adventure.

The only thing I didn't like is that I just started Rise of the Runelords at my last session so it will be a while before I can run this.

Sean Mahoney


Sean Mahoney wrote:

I just finished reading Howl of the Carion King today (started with the PDF and finished with the print version that arrived), and all I have to say is WOW! This is a phenominal adventure.

The only thing I didn't like is that I just started Rise of the Runelords at my last session so it will be a while before I can run this.

Sean Mahoney

I just read the AP and rewrote the first part for myself to run a little more easily (a quick reference guide of sorts so I don't need to read through hundreds of words of text,) and the entire thing is amazing. I love the 2 set pieces at the end and I look forward to figuring out how to get the PCs to stumble upon them :P


I think this might be my favorite paizo adventure so far. Good Work!

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Wow. Thanks.

The Exchange

You set the bar with Whispering Cairn, I cannot wait to read this one. Jason's Mad Gods Key is the only one I like as much.

Scarab Sages

French Wolf wrote:
You set the bar with Whispering Cairn, I cannot wait to read this one. Jason's Mad Gods Key is the only one I like as much.

French Wolf those are my 2 favourite adventures that Paizo has published. I must say HotCK is _AMAZING_!!! I would say it is as good, if not better than Whispering Cairn and Mad Gods Key. But my love of Greyhawk is also a huge part of that.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Dear Mr. Mona, you really should abandon that foolish novels thing and embrace adventure writing full time. HotCK appears to be for LoF what Burnt Offerings was for RotRL and Seven Days for CotCT. Gieb more Mona adventures we say !

Sovereign Court Contributor

Sean Mahoney wrote:

I just finished reading Howl of the Carion King today (started with the PDF and finished with the print version that arrived), and all I have to say is WOW! This is a phenominal adventure.

The only thing I didn't like is that I just started Rise of the Runelords at my last session so it will be a while before I can run this.

Sean Mahoney

Sean Mahoney wrote:

I just finished reading Howl of the Carion King today (started with the PDF and finished with the print version that arrived), and all I have to say is WOW! This is a phenominal adventure.

The only thing I didn't like is that I just started Rise of the Runelords at my last session so it will be a while before I can run this.

Sean Mahoney

Ditto in every particular, including just starting ROTRL. I've been partial to desert adventures since Hickman's Desert of Desolation stuff back in 1e-land. So for me, the bar was high. Very high. Erik --I've got a new bar now. Well done!

James Mackenzie -- your set piece looks gorgeous! I already new it was good, now it looks good too!

Paizo staff -- I think the book is gorgeous. Production values on this one are over the top. The font is just outrageous tasty. The illuminated border like spice. Just holding it makes me want to play. I want to eat it like cake or luxuriate in it like...like...like...something eminently luxuriate-able! A hot sponge bath given by The Jade, Sebastian's big pony mane, or the mediterranean -- or something. Damn it, I'm a writer and words are failing me. Hell man, my wife, a non-gamer, thinks it looks hot and wants to read it!

All I can say Mr. Mona is...look out Ennie awards!

Scarab Sages

I am actually looking forward to running my SECOND!!! table game at the moment. We are starting next Wednesday, the day after I run my Second Darkness game.

The table is looking forward to HotCK as I have told them about Katapesh and the area. We are all looking forward to this and I was going to run RotRL, but then this masterpiece came out!

Thanks Erik and everyone at Paizo!


Grimsh wrote:
I am actually looking forward to running my SECOND!!! table game at the moment.

When I start this next month I'll be running all four Golarion APs. I was going to put off starting Legacy of Fire until we close down RotRL (likely soon), but it's just too cool to postpone.

Scarab Sages

tbug wrote:
Grimsh wrote:
I am actually looking forward to running my SECOND!!! table game at the moment.
When I start this next month I'll be running all four Golarion APs. I was going to put off starting Legacy of Fire until we close down RotRL (likely soon), but it's just too cool to postpone.

WOW that is impressive! I thought I had it crazy tough. I wish you good luck with that! I agree that Legacy of Fire is just to amazing to put off which is why I had to run it.

How many groups do you have if you dont mind me asking?


Grimsh wrote:
How many groups do you have if you dont mind me asking?

RotRL: Birdcrunchers!

CotCTL: Aristocracy Mephits (Four of the five members are also in the Birdcrunchers game.)

Second Darkness: We're just now finalizing the players, but probably four of the five Birdcrunchers! players will be in it (not the same four as in the Mephits game, though). We're probably playing this with PCs who are members of the Shin'Rakorath, though that's not confirmed yet. We'll probably do character creation in the next few weeks.

Legacy of Fire: I've just put out a call for players in and around Victoria, BC, who want in. We've talked about playing this one with gnolls, or azers, or maybe even mercanes (one of my favourite SRD monsters). We'll discuss more before character creation next month.

It's Paizo's fault. Their games are too good not to run.


Louis Agresta wrote:
Paizo staff -- I think the book is gorgeous. Production values on this one are over the top. The font is just outrageous tasty. The illuminated border like spice. Just holding it makes me want to play. I want to eat it like cake or luxuriate in it like...like...like...something eminently luxuriate-able! A hot sponge bath given by The Jade, Sebastian's big pony mane, or the mediterranean -- or something. Damn it, I'm a writer and words are failing me. Hell man, my wife, a non-gamer, thinks it looks hot and wants to read it!

This is what I've been sayin'!

Liberty's Edge

I have to agree with everyone here. LoF has started with a very loud bang, and I hope it continues this way. I have to say I was really looking forward to this AP. I really wasn't interested in Second Darkness, not because of the quality. My group has just done the drow to death, and I really didn't want to do another drow campaign.

But everyone in my group is frothing over a arabian nightsish AP. Erik you are a artist of words, and I do hope you keep the adventure writers hat on for awhile.


Add me to the choir. All I have to say, Erik Mona, is that this is one of the top 3 best products I've seen from Paizo.

I thought the PDFs looked great, but holding the book in my hand (as I just received it) I was totally blown away. You guys have really captured the feel of the setting... ok maybe one niggling detail is the off-culture name of the Chupacabra.

Outstanding work.


Louis Agresta wrote:
All I can say Mr. Mona is...look out Ennie awards!

Absolutely. Just tell me who to strong-arm to get them to the voting page!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

veector wrote:

Add me to the choir. All I have to say, Erik Mona, is that this is one of the top 3 best products I've seen from Paizo.

I thought the PDFs looked great, but holding the book in my hand (as I just received it) I was totally blown away. You guys have really captured the feel of the setting... ok maybe one niggling detail is the off-culture name of the Chupacabra.

Outstanding work.

D&D Has a LONG tradition of mixing cultures and monsters. If we can have rakshasas fighting against knights or ninjas fighting against linnorms, we can have chupacabras fighting against genies.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:


D&D Has a LONG tradition of mixing cultures and monsters. If we can have rakshasas fighting against knights or ninjas fighting against linnorms, we can have chupacabras fighting against genies.

While I'm usually a foolishly Quixotic niggler for cultural origins of monsters and classes (which is sometimes hard on myself considering I like playing monks,) the chupacabra are Mexican/Puerto Rican in origin and there really isn't a Central American analogue in Golarion. That being the case, I would say the next best choice is a similar climate, if you want to include the monster in the first place (and who wouldn't want the chupacabra in their gameworld? Fools, that's who!)

So I have no problem with Paizo on that front! ^-^

That said, what I like about Golarion is that they usually do have cultures analogous to the real world ones D&D monsters & culture classes (like ninjas) come from, and they provide a measure of context.


Drakli wrote:


While I'm usually a foolishly Quixotic niggler for cultural origins of monsters and classes (which is sometimes hard on myself considering I like playing monks,) the chupacabra are Mexican/Puerto Rican in origin and there really isn't a Central American analogue. That being the case, I would say the next best choice is a similar climate, if you want to include the monster in the first place (and who wouldn't want the chupacabra in their gameworld? Fools, that's who!) So I have no problem with Paizo on that front! ^-^

I've lived in Ecuador, Chile and Argentina, and all of them mention the Chupacabra. I would not be surprised for the term to be in use in the rest of South America, as well as Central America.

Now who coined the term first... that depends on who you believe.

FOr another Latin American legend that crosses borders, look up "La Llorona" (The weeping Lady).


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Ian Watt wrote:


I've lived in Ecuador, Chile and Argentina, and all of them mention the Chupacabra. I would not be surprised for the term to be in use in the rest of South America, as well as Central America.

Now who coined the term first... that depends on who you believe.

FOr another Latin American legend that crosses borders, look up "La Llorona" (The weeping Lady).

This is true and a point well taken. Heck, there've been supposed sightings even in places like Maine, I hear.

I'd read the first recorded sightings were in Puerto Rico and Mexico... but, you know, mostly I was trying to say I think releasing them in this book was just fine on an environmental level.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

If I really stretch it I guess the only thing I could complain about how is how unGolarion-goblin looking Blobog is...I like those little football heads.


James Jacobs wrote:
D&D Has a LONG tradition of mixing cultures and monsters. If we can have rakshasas fighting against knights or ninjas fighting against linnorms, we can have chupacabras fighting against genies.

Don't get me wrong, the monster works perfectly for the setting. I think the modern day hype over the chupacabra has affected my suspension of disbelief.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
DitheringFool wrote:
If I really stretch it I guess the only thing I could complain about how is how unGolarion-goblin looking Blobog is...I like those little football heads.

Who? I ran a search in my PDF and couldn't find that name.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Drakli wrote:
DitheringFool wrote:
If I really stretch it I guess the only thing I could complain about how is how unGolarion-goblin looking Blobog is...I like those little football heads.
Who? I ran a search in my PDF and couldn't find that name.

Sorry - this ended up in the wrong thread - Blobog is featured in House of the Beast.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
veector wrote:
Don't get me wrong, the monster works perfectly for the setting. I think the modern day hype over the chupacabra has affected my suspension of disbelief.

Ah, I understand. Me, I'm an occasional cryptzoology buff, and often go through big jags of reading tons of unexplained phenomenon tomes, so seeing the chupacabra in Pathfinder was like... Gleeeee! ^o^


Drakli wrote:


This is true and a point well taken. Heck, there've been supposed sightings even in places like Maine, I hear.

I'd read the first recorded sightings were in Puerto Rico and Mexico... but, you know, mostly I was trying to say I think releasing them in this book was just fine on an environmental level.

My money is on Mejico!

Personally, since I'm a Spanish speaker, the name throws me off. Because it's not exotic enough for my arabian game ;) So I'll have to make up a name, and when describing it to my players, will have to use "And the stories you hear, are similar to those Chupacabra stories we keep hearing.."


veector wrote:
Don't get me wrong, the monster works perfectly for the setting. I think the modern day hype over the chupacabra has affected my suspension of disbelief.

Know what you mean - the Loch Ness Black Magga did the same for me... :)


What you all are failing to see here is the origin of the Chupacabra.
This creature originated in Northern Africa. It accompanied the Moors on their conquest of Spain, and when the Moors were driven it, it took refuge among the explorers headed for the New World, where it populated Latin America.

And you call yourselves crypto-whatchamacallits...

All we need now is Semiticists to give us the roots that go to make up the word, underneath the false Spanish etymology, which was probably forced on to the earlier, misunderstood Arabic word.

Spoiler:
CH/KH-P-K/Q + B-R-Alef/Ayin/Heh

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