Where can I find some great and long explanation concerning Tar-Baphon (more than what we find in "gods and magics" ou "campaign setting"? Which god did he venerate or he considered him as a god? And so on...
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Where can I find some great and long explanation concerning Tar-Baphon (more than what we find in "gods and magics" ou "campaign setting"? Which god did he venerate or he considered him as a god? And so on...
While I can't think of a location giving more of an explanation of Tar-Baphon than those two at the moment, I'll keep thinking on that. I know he's briefly mentioned in Into the Darklands, but that's a small segment detailing a dungeon he made to try to trap Aroden. There's also some information in Hungry are the Dead, though again, I don't quite think that's what you're looking for.
Tar-Baphon had no patron deity as far as I can tell. He was a follower of The Whispering Way, a philosophy on page 177 of the Campaign setting, and he did attempt to make himself a god though means such as massive human sacrifice and killing a (demi?) god.
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There might be some info in here http://paizo.com/store/sale/compleatEncounterAdventureClearance/v5748btpy7f ix
He's a follower of the whispering way, no god but a philosophy.
He didn't invent it.
That was me I fear. It's all a horrible misunderstanding. I was deep in my cups at the time and started what I thought was a hilarious comedy routine. Little did I know that some of the guys in jammies were spellcasters who would take what I'd say at face value and start a religion over it.
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OK, I have been under the impression that the Whispering Tyrant was defeated, as in KILLED. But upon reading the Campaign Setting again, about the Whispering Way, he was merely imprisoned... and his followers do not know if HE killed Aroden or not...
So Tar-Baphon is still unalive and out there somewhere!
THAT changes things!
He's a ticking Epic AP bomb.
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In "Hungry are the Dead"...
Once the PCs are done with that adventure, a long campaign could lead up to an epic adventure in which he is released, or nearly so, by one of his long-dormant minions.
I'm seriously considering this option once I've run my players through all of the Darkmoon Vale adventures.
his followers do not know if HE killed Aroden or not...
His followers do not know what species their fathers are for the most part, or how to think without moving their lips.
Tar-Baphon killing me? I think not. I could squish the little upstart with my thumb.
Plus, I'm not dead yet, of course.
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Get backstage, Aroden! We're not ready for you, yet!
You never were, and I was around nonetheless.
Seriously, I go through all this trouble with the starstone to give your mortals a leg up for divinity, and what comes from it?
A furtive creep, a drunkard, and my old herald I basically had to lead through the test by hand.
And that's all the human race could muster in dozens of centuries. Not that the other races fared any better.
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OK, I have been under the impression that the Whispering Tyrant was defeated, as in KILLED. But upon reading the Campaign Setting again, about the Whispering Way, he was merely imprisoned... and his followers do not know if HE killed Aroden or not...
So Tar-Baphon is still unalive and out there somewhere!
THAT changes things!
He is near immortal and at best Mythic 10.
I wish someone would stat up the entire Gallowspire dungeon.
That's a great idea. The only drawback is that I want to play Emerald Spire at some point so I'd hate to spoil it for myself. Perhaps I can find another megadungeon of sorts and reskin it.
Dungeons of Golarion maps it and more or less lays it out, just not encounter by encounter.
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In the book Mythic Realms, he is fully stated and his history is also given.
I ran my PCs through Gallowspire after completing the Carrion Crown AP. Dungeons of Golarion did help quite a bit. While it doesn't lay out encounter by encounter, it gives suggestions of who is there and other creature ideas as well.
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There is like only one creature there to keep him *in*, the sphinx in the dungeons book. Every single other creature in gallowspire is indeed trying to get not only tb out, but themselves too. It's more like rovagugs demiplane prison then anything resembling a normal prison.
His point wasn't a prisoner break but a prison invasion.
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Shadows of Gallowspire touches on this - the region around Gallowspire, Vyrlich County, is incredibly corrupt and corrupting. The land itself is utterly hostile (the weather hazards are amazing - the most benign of those was a rain of corrosive, screaming, ectoplasm), and Tar-Baphon's presence lingers on.
Lastwall sends patrols into the region, but its too dangerous to actually set up camps or fortresses in.
Also, a lot of the forces that used to be monitoring Gallowspire are now getting pulled by the Belkzen and the Worldwound.
Also, Gallowspire DOES have defenders, but a number of them are corrupted or even insane.
When Tar-Baphon got sealed away, an enormous chunk of his army got sealed right up with him - Gallowspire's 400 feet tall but close to a mile deep.
Tar-Baphon got exploded during that final battle with Arnisant, and the Grand Seal got thrown up while TB was reforming (because liches do that).
Tar-Baphon didn't found the Whispering Way, but he's by far its most famous member, and he has a amazing slew of admirers - up to and including the undeath goddess Urgathoa, who's personally shielding his phylactery from all divination. The phylactery must be in Gallowspire, but only Tar-Baphon and Urgathoa know what it is.
Ok... that just begs the question of why would good PC's go into a prison that is obviously perfectly capable of holding it's many many evil prisoners and this near god-lich and run the extremely high risk of freeing him?There is like only one creature there to keep him *in*, the sphinx in the dungeons book. Every single other creature in gallowspire is indeed trying to get not only tb out, but themselves too. It's more like rovagugs demiplane prison then anything resembling a normal prison.
His point wasn't a prisoner break but a prison invasion.
One reason is to kill him for good, another is loot him, another is to make sure that the prison is secure enough.
Remember that the sealing of TB's prison was done by priests of Aroden, sure it was mighty magic and all of that, and the Inheritor is probably still powering that but what if it's not? What if the seal is slowly weaking? What if the legends are true and the only thing that holds TB down is the fragment from the Shield of Aroden that is stuck in his hand and what if that fragmnet is slowly losing power now that Aroden is dead?As you can see there are plenty of reasons to go to Gallowspire.
Something tells me that there would be some very high lvl paladins and angels, if not a gold or silver dragon and such outside the prison specifically to 'discourage' glory seekers like that.
It just makes no sense at all from any perspective for 'the forces of good' to allow that.
One of the plot hooks for the Gallowspire introduced in Dungeons of Golarion was that the wardstones holding Tar Baphon captive are failing so a party has to go in and destroy him once and for all before he is set free.