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I prefer 4E chess.
Bah! everyone knows they only recolored some of the pieces and gussied up the rules concerning pawn movemrent in an attempt to get more money out of everyone who already had the old sets. I like my green and red pieces just fine. I don't need their new blue ones.
Incidently, I think the bigger problem is pieces just passing by the other pieces. there should be a way to force them to target your pawns instead of ignoring them and killing your bishops.

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Callous Jack wrote:I prefer 4E chess.Bah! everyone knows they only recolored some of the pieces and gussied up the rules concerning pawn movemrent in an attempt to get more money out of everyone who already had the old sets. I like my green and red pieces just fine. I don't need their new blue ones.
Incidently, I think the bigger problem is pieces just passing by the other pieces. there should be a way to force them to target your pawns instead of ignoring them and killing your bishops.
Don't forget that 4e chess doesn't even have the rook in the base set - it will be included in an upcoming expansion.
And don't even get me started on the new ninja piece. What a load of crap.

Lipto the Shiv |

God, am I the only one who hates what chess has become? The only people who still play are the freaking rules-lawyers, "Hey, that move's illegal because Bishops blah,blah,blah!" and combat munchkins who think the whole point of the game is to 'beat' the other guy! I remember back in the day being able to play a game of chess with a friend, and we didn't give a crap about following all the rules. We just had fun! No one bothered to spend twenty minutes looking up en passent, we just went along with what made sense and didn't let it slow the game. And everybody just has to have a queen on their side. As if the game would be less fun if we don't all power the hell out of it. The best game I ever played I had nothing but pawns and bishops. Granted, I waasn't able to succeed in everything I tried to do, but the game itself was a blast! Bah! [/rant]

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God, am I the only one who hates what chess has become? The only people who still play are the freaking rules-lawyers, "Hey, that move's illegal because Bishops blah,blah,blah!" and combat munchkins who think the whole point of the game is to 'beat' the other guy! I remember back in the day being able to play a game of chess with a friend, and we didn't give a crap about following all the rules. We just had fun! No one bothered to spend twenty minutes looking up en passent, we just went along with what made sense and didn't let it slow the game. And everybody just has to have a queen on their side. As if the game would be less fun if we don't all power the hell out of it. The best game I ever played I had nothing but pawns and bishops. Granted, I waasn't able to succeed in everything I tried to do, but the game itself was a blast! Bah! [/rant]
I agree. Because of all the nastiness on these boards, I've lost all love for chess. I didn't really play it very often anyhow after the checkers/chess wars but now I give up. Since you guys can't stop talking about how terrible the game is, I can't enjoy it anymore at home. I HEAR YOUR VOICES IN MY HEAD. From now on, I'm playing Risk. I might not be around as much after this ...

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God, am I the only one who hates what chess has become? The only people who still play are the freaking rules-lawyers, "Hey, that move's illegal because Bishops blah,blah,blah!" and combat munchkins who think the whole point of the game is to 'beat' the other guy! I remember back in the day being able to play a game of chess with a friend, and we didn't give a crap about following all the rules. We just had fun! No one bothered to spend twenty minutes looking up en passent, we just went along with what made sense and didn't let it slow the game. And everybody just has to have a queen on their side. As if the game would be less fun if we don't all power the hell out of it. The best game I ever played I had nothing but pawns and bishops. Granted, I waasn't able to succeed in everything I tried to do, but the game itself was a blast! Bah! [/rant]
Look grognard, this is the Paizo chess website we are here to post fixes for Paizo Chess. Just because you fear change doesn't mean we need to have your stupid trolling eating up the bandwidth. Yeah when I was 5 playing candyland was fun too, are you suggesting we give up Chess and just play candyland.
And I can't believe you guys think the Bishop is weak, in my game I have a bishop that through use of the Complete Checkmate, Book of Vile Checking, Races of Chess, Complete Bishop, and Advanced Chessmastery by Goodman Games I created a Bishop 3/rook 1/ Master Diagonaler 5/ Knight 1 and I was able to make a W move while jumping over pieces and every other piece skipped was treated as if I ended my turn in its space, I totally owned that game. Bishops rock.

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...Yeah when I was 5 playing candyland was fun too, are you suggesting we give up Chess and just play candyland...
Oh, don't evem get me started on how many house rules were needed to clean up that mess. But thanks to Races of Candy and Unearthed Sweetness, most of those houserules are now official variants.

Lipto the Shiv |

Look grognard, this is the Paizo chess website we are here to post fixes for Paizo Chess. Just because you fear change doesn't mean we need to have your stupid trolling eating up the bandwidth. Yeah when I was 5 playing candyland was fun too, are you suggesting we give up Chess and just play candyland.
Look here you young whippersnapper, I've got nothing against change, but when the change comes at the expense of fun? Then yes, I think Candyland might be a suitable alternative. At least their system doesn't give itself into rampant abuse like what people call 'chess' these days. Red is red, blue is blue.(Besides, I still like candyland... The sugarplum forest is the best setting of all time IMHO)
Geez... This is exactly the type of nonsense I'm talking about. Question. Have you ever played just a straight up pawn? No splatbooks. No special board rules. Just pawn, first to twenty? Any munchkin with half a brain can work the system to make a piece that turns pawns into queens and queens into ultra-empresses, but it takes a real chess-player to get into the piece and make it work for him. Ultimatly it's a lot more rewarding too.That "Bishops rock" quote was also a bit telling. Are you one of the types that sees chess as a zero sum game? Here's a heads up, there doesn't need to be a winner and a loser... '
Edit I stand corrected. I forgot about Unearthed Sweetness... I banned that from my candyland game.

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And lets not forget the absolutely broken techniques introduced to chess by Sylvester McCoy as the seventh Doctor in Curse of Fenric.
Back in the early 1990's those sort of moves completely wrecked games. They had to be banned.
First of all, I'm not actually here. This is my roommate. I've already quit reading this endless stream of fail.
Second of all, if anything had to be banned, it wasn't the moves but the movies. 'Wrath of the Black Queen' was probably the worst movie ever made. This almost turned me off the game forever. ... Well, not me, but my roommate, because this is him.

Charles Evans 25 |
Charles Evans 25 wrote:And lets not forget the absolutely broken techniques introduced to chess by Sylvester McCoy as the seventh Doctor in Curse of Fenric.
Back in the early 1990's those sort of moves completely wrecked games. They had to be banned.First of all, I'm not actually here. This is my roommate. I've already quit reading this endless stream of fail.
Second of all, if anything had to be banned, it wasn't the moves but the movies. 'Wrath of the Black Queen' was probably the worst movie ever made. This almost turned me off the game forever. ... Well, not me, but my roommate, because this is him.
Laughing Out Loud:
Tell your roommate 'who isn't there' that he quite clearly 'wasn't there' either, in 1989, when some classic Doctor Who aired.And if he thinks Doctor Who is a movie series, rather than a television series with film/movie spin-offs (some of which are excruciatingly excreable) then it's a good thing that he's not here, because he clearly does not fit in with the kind of culture desired by Doctor Who übergeek, Erik Mona.

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jakoov wrote:Please, can we keep it civil? The first posts were interesting, now things are gettin a bit heated. Let's not degenerate into a hatepostfest.Don't worry, they may sound bad but they're like an old married couple and Jal Dorak is their bratty teenager. ;-)
Oh and by the way, knights rock. They're my favorite piece because no one knows how to use them and they always get the sneak attacks.
I am not a brat.
Now, give me my allowance so I can buy Yugi-Oh!...!

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Wow. I am embarrassed by all the hostility here. The other Chess websites are laughing at the actions on these boards. They think you are all a big joke. Especially the Chess4 groups. Chessfinder is just an infantile reaction to people refusing to acknowledge progress, ergo you are all a joke and infantile, while I retain my superiority.
Chess4 4ever!

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Charles Evans 25 wrote:And lets not forget the absolutely broken techniques introduced to chess by Sylvester McCoy as the seventh Doctor in Curse of Fenric.
Back in the early 1990's those sort of moves completely wrecked games. They had to be banned.First of all, I'm not actually here. This is my roommate. I've already quit reading this endless stream of fail.
Second of all, if anything had to be banned, it wasn't the moves but the movies. 'Wrath of the Black Queen' was probably the worst movie ever made. This almost turned me off the game forever. ... Well, not me, but my roommate, because this is him.
Way to use a joke that I allready beat into the ground
This just shows how I am clearly more masterful and intelligent and therefor what I post about chess is clearly correct.

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Wow. I am embarrassed by all the hostility here. The other Chess websites are laughing at the actions on these boards. They think you are all a big joke. Especially the Chess4 groups. Chessfinder is just an infantile reaction to people refusing to acknowledge progress, ergo you are all a joke and infantile, while I retain my superiority.
Chess4 4ever!
Yeah. That's just because Chess4 is dedicated to the 4th edition of chess, a game aimed at people who don't understand the complexity of our game.
Sooner or later we'll have a game with just black and white pieces, just the same piece all over the board, that is "simple enough" for everyone.
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Yeah. That's just because Chess4 is dedicated to the 4th edition of chess, a game aimed at people who don't understand the complexity of our game.
Sooner or later we'll have a game with just black and white pieces, just the same piece all over the board, that is "simple enough" for everyone.
Yes it is called GO and it is much more complex.

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jakoov wrote:Yes it is called GO and it is much more complex.
Yeah. That's just because Chess4 is dedicated to the 4th edition of chess, a game aimed at people who don't understand the complexity of our game.
Sooner or later we'll have a game with just black and white pieces, just the same piece all over the board, that is "simple enough" for everyone.
in all seriousness, i dedicated a month to learning that game and couldn't grasp anything more then the basics. i have GOT to get a ghost friend to possess me and teach me the game!

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Crimson Jester wrote:in all seriousness, i dedicated a month to learning that game and couldn't grasp anything more then the basics. i have GOT to get a ghost friend to possess me and teach me the game!jakoov wrote:Yes it is called GO and it is much more complex.
Yeah. That's just because Chess4 is dedicated to the 4th edition of chess, a game aimed at people who don't understand the complexity of our game.
Sooner or later we'll have a game with just black and white pieces, just the same piece all over the board, that is "simple enough" for everyone.
I gave up!

Jezred |

After wading through all of these so-called fixes, I became frustrated with such nubbish attempts of fixing the game. Here are the rules we use, which are the CORRECT INTERPRETATIONS of the rules:
1. The knights capture all pieces that they are adjacent to at the end of their moves, regardless of color.
2. The black-square bishop is Shadow Specced, while the white-square bishop is Holy Specced. Disciplined Specced bishops are banned under the DCCI floor rules as of 07-2008.
3. White has been errated to go second instead of first, as it was too OP.
4. Rooks can only take the two-weapon build; ranged build rooks are twinkish at best.
5. Kings can still only move one square, but you can tap two spades and three clubs to give them an extra move during your turn.
AND
6. You cannot apply piece kits from the Complete Pawn book to pawns except for the drunken pawn kit, but they may not take maneuvers from lists 2 or 3.
These are the best rules to play with, and all others are full of PHAIL-SAUCE!
(BTW: Love the thread.)

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jakoov wrote:Yes it is called GO and it is much more complex.
Yeah. That's just because Chess4 is dedicated to the 4th edition of chess, a game aimed at people who don't understand the complexity of our game.
Sooner or later we'll have a game with just black and white pieces, just the same piece all over the board, that is "simple enough" for everyone.
Yeah, right *condescending comment* and after all you are *witty retort*.
I was thinking about checkers, anyway. :-D

Logic_Elmer |

I have wead all of the posts on this thwead and I have to say you awe all fail buckets of utter stinky fail. If you hadn't have wun Fwank Chessman off these boards and just wistened to his mythic godwike insight Chessfinder would be pewfect.
I also think you all are kissing Kasparov's hiney shamewesswey. Just because he has been pubwished in the fiewd doesn't make him any better than you Thanksgiving fail turkeys stuffed with Obewoni Fawwacies. And Fischer? Pft. FAIL FAIL FAIL. You bunch of mamby pamby Victowian fail f@ers.
If you weawwy want wogical discussion of why Chessfinder sucks and how through wogic we can totawwy fix it go to The Chess Den

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Instead of banning the Knight I think they should ban the second player. To prove a point: the next time you play chess play the black pieces with your right hand and the left hand to play the white pieces.
Genius! Ignoring the obvious troll in the room, I think you might be on to something! only, I think we should ban both players and replace them with robots like on battlebots, where they're designed by elite university programmers. then, we start an underground betting program based on which team of geeks will win the resulting brawl when it inevitable breaks out due to the robots puposefully screwing up in order to cause confusion among humans!
wow...that almost sounds like a good seed for a short story or comic or something. hmmm...

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I have wead all of the posts on this thwead and I have to say you awe all fail buckets of utter stinky fail. If you hadn't have wun Fwank Chessman off these boards and just wistened to his mythic godwike insight Chessfinder would be pewfect.
I also think you all are kissing Kasparov's hiney shamewesswey. Just because he has been pubwished in the fiewd doesn't make him any better than you Thanksgiving fail turkeys stuffed with Obewoni Fawwacies. And Fischer? Pft. FAIL FAIL FAIL. You bunch of mamby pamby Victowian fail f*&#ers.
If you weawwy want wogical discussion of why Chessfinder sucks and how through wogic we can totawwy fix it go to The Chess Den
Meeeeeeeeeah.....what's up, dick?

Logic_Elmer |

Oh, and everybody,...."Logic Elmer" is really "Logic f&#~puppet." They're the same exact person. I'm almost certain of it.
Aww Sweetcheeks I don't need to be hiding who I am. I am onwy here to hewp you awl make the best chess game ever. You all just don't want to wisten, and wouwd wather tawk about how evewything is fine and we shouwd just overwook the knight and wook issues in high-wevel chess pway. Who wouwd use a wook once you get to that wevel? FAIL. Just because you don't have a probwem doesn't mean thewe isn't one. Thats the Obewoni Fawwacy right there! AHAHAHAHAHA!

Locutus of 4g |

All drones report to the collective. I am your emissary, Locutus, you are to be counted before the final assimilation.
Resistance is futile.

Hierarch of Gygaxian Naturalism |

I'll wup your hiney at chess, so don't even try it.
I'm the OP, and seeing as his post strokes my ego, it can be nothing short of sheer genius. This is why you fail.
You have made a terrible enemy, you flea-bitten curr! You will know the true meaning of fail when you are enveloped by the embrace of the Ancient Elemental Darkness...

Mairkurion {tm} |

{Spraying Oust} Geez, Heathy...that Anton-Le-Vay-reject needs to get out of his mom's house more...and maybe read something other than Moorcock, Lovecraft, and old modules.
FACT: This thread should be read by people who begin posts and threads with "FACT".
And why is it when you want to have a game of chess, no one wants to play white anymore? All the people I play with want to play black, or at most, grey.

Tensor |

If you're some kinda muchkin minimaxer.
Unlike most BBEG who take 20 minutes and explain all their plans, giving you plenty of time to free yourself and push him into the giant vat of acid.
This is the problem with the Black King, he talks too much.
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[Edit:] Who wins below?
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The guy with the gun.

Charles Evans 25 |
Tensor clearly knows NOTHING about chess. Tensor plays InfiniChess (TM) where there are only two pieces- a so called 'angel' and 'the devil'. Every game finishes exactly the same way with the devil eating the entire board apart from the square that he is standing on, or a rules arguement about whether or not infinity is also less than a thousand squares, given the range of infinity.
One knight on Tensor's InfiniChess board, would cut down the devil in exactly 42 moves, no matter how much that devil tried to run. Douglas Adams said it, so it must be true.
Yes I know that I usually comment on how the knight is nearly too powerful, but kicking a game of InfiniChess into touch with one is worth putting standards on hold for the couple of minutes it takes a knight to force a concession from a hopelessly outgunned devil player.

Lipto the Shiv |

Arrrgh! stupid post eating-then-reposting-then-doubleposting messageboard...
ressurection
okay, so it's not quite 'on-topic' but I was reading through some back issues of Dragon a couple days ago, and I came across this forgotten gem...
Dragon Issue #358
Checkmate
by Kevin Baase and Eric Jansing
Drawn from four of Dragon's best-known covers, six new creatures bring the cold strategy of the chessboard to life. Face powerful foes like the black king or take command of an entire chess legion for the ultimate battle of wits.
I thought it was frickin' hilarious...

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Arrrgh! stupid post eating-then-reposting-then-doubleposting messageboard...
ressurection
okay, so it's not quite 'on-topic' but I was reading through some back issues of Dragon a couple days ago, and I came across this forgotten gem...
Dragon Issue #358
Checkmate
by Kevin Baase and Eric Jansing
Drawn from four of Dragon's best-known covers, six new creatures bring the cold strategy of the chessboard to life. Face powerful foes like the black king or take command of an entire chess legion for the ultimate battle of wits.
I thought it was frickin' hilarious...
Ah yes. Definately a staple supplement to any serious fanatasy chess player.