With the Beta coming soon, I just thought I'd ask those onboard with Pathfinder what they'd like to see. Slightly different then asking someone what they'd like to see for a totally new game considering that there is already a weath of d20 products out there that will work with the game.
Please choose from the following categories (and please feel free to elaborate):
Stand Alone Adventures
Adventure Paths
Campaign Settings
Small Settings that work in any setting
Monter Books
Alternate Class Levels/Additional Classes
Additional Player Options (PrCs, Spells, Feats, etc)
Other Magic System (i.e. Binder, Truenamer, etc, but obviously not using specificly these)
Additional/Alternate Rules
Psionic Options
Epic Options
Planar Options
Other (please explain)
A mass combat system that works for naval battles and aerial battles
An epic adventure path: just 3 modules linked, even. I'd want to see if it could be done and how it could be done.
Adventure paths will always be bought, although with drow in them... ick. Well, at least it starts in Riddleport.
Standalone adventures are my major purchase.
Monster books, because you can never have enough of those
Standalone adventures
Settings, but only if they break significantly with the standard fantasy worlds. I already have more than enough options for standard sword and sorcery. I want a setting unlike any of the 3E WotC official settings in that they don't play it safe.
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My wish list is the following, in order of priority:
Pathfinder Support (encompassing below)
New monsters - namely more aberrations, plants, and undead.
Epic level support - especially adventures and options.
Adventures - specifically stand-alone adventures starting at 1st level.
Toys - things like the Critical Hit Deck.
Not gonna force myself to come up with something I don't have - I'm done.
Actual workable rules that take players beyond 20th level but are not called "Epic".
Psionics
More monsters, or failing that a corallation of all the "new or reworked" monsters featured.
Setting info
DM SCREEN!!!
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Actual workable rules that take players beyond 20th level but are not called "Epic".
That too. I'm not a big fan of epic. I think that it should be possible to keep going beyond 20th level, but the system that is native to 3.5 is way over the top in terms of power. I feel that it really breaks verisimilitude.
I want a setting unlike any of the 3E WotC official settings in that they don't play it safe.
Ok. Like what? One based on a conquored nation with an entrenched insurgency? Post-apocolyptic? Setting with a completely reworked arcane magic system (more like runequest, where a rune allows you access to only those schools that the rune corresponds to), completely different base races (human, cat race, half cat race, awakened trees, and bat people), a licensed erfworld setting, what?
Anyone remember the Book of Lairs from 2nd edition? I'd like something like that for PF....some simple quick and dirty monster encounters.
I play pretty close to straight core. More or less in order of interest.
Big ass book of monsters
kick butt adventures. (not too worried on this count)
Some nice inexpensive pathfinder minis - pathfinder goblins etc
Maybe a dm's resource with tips on encounter design, new templates
psionics
That's aboot it.
A feats compendium would be great.
Support for some of the later WoTC ideas. Skill tricks, binder magic, warlock hexes, etcetera.
With the Beta coming soon, I just thought I'd ask those onboard with Pathfinder what they'd like to see. (SNIP)
Please choose from the following categories (and please feel free to elaborate):
Stand Alone Adventures
Adventure PathsCampaign Settings
I'm not so interested in these as Paizo are putting out more than enough good stuff in these categories. Interesting/Different settings always get my interest though, but not necessarily my cash - they have to be exciting, different and playable.
Small Settings that work in any setting
Monster Books
Yes! Yes!
Alternate Class Levels/Additional Classes
Additional Player Options (PrCs, Spells, Feats, etc)
Other Magic System
No, no, no! We're already loaded down with this kind of thing. I am not interested in more of the "Complete X", new core classes, and am definitely not interested in PrC after PrC after PrC....
Additional/Alternate Rules
Always welcome, especially if attached to some interesting fluff. Much less so if it's attached to a new class of sorts (e.g. Incarnium).
Psionic Options
Epic Options
Planar Options
Yes! Yes! Yes! Although I'm not desperate for these as we have a lot of material already - remember that Pathfinder does not render your entire library of 3.X stuff obsolete. :D
Peace,
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Support for some of the later WoTC ideas. Skill tricks, binder magic, warlock hexes, etcetera.
None of these are OGL so if someone does a warlock, it has to look different. There can be similarities, but the odds of it being fully compatable is slim to none (and slim is out of town).
Psionic Options
Epic Options
Planar OptionsYes! Yes! Yes! Although I'm not desperate for these as we have a lot of material already - remember that Pathfinder does not render your entire library of 3.X stuff obsolete. :D
That's why this is kinda difficult. With a plethera of already compatable material already in existance, its difficult to predict what will or will not be in demand. Doing something like Traveller or 4E would be much easier since ... everything is needed.
Maybe some sort of conversion guidelines for the most popular splats.
Converting classes is pretty straight forward. Update the skills, hit points that's about it. One of the reasons for the power bump in core was to catch up with some non core options.
Would people really buy another warlock class and repeat stuff?
Well at least I know I am not the only Erfworld fan.
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This is a good question and topic, but I find myself thinking first off: "nothing". I'd like Planar support and Epic support, but Paizo knows Golarion and how things work there, I'd rather just wait to see what they do. Adventures and campaign stuff? Nothing except what I'm already getting from Paizo.
So, what really 3rd party PF stuff could I use or have an interest in? Spells and monsters. With the slight retweaking of spells and monsters, I would not be opposed to a Spell Compendium-like or Magic item Compendium-like book for PF. And Tome of Horrors for PF just sounds super. The only folks I trust to do this however is Necromancer, and Clark has fallen silent.
And last but not least, miniatures. Miniatures for all the really cool but oh-so-warped creatures PF is introducing I havre no mini for! :-)
-DM Jeff
This is a good question and topic, but I find myself thinking first off: "nothing".
Yea, that's what has me wondering. Does anyone NEED anything considering the true plethera of material out there already that is going to be easily converted over? So at best, this is tough.
Anyone remember the Book of Lairs from 2nd edition? I'd like something like that for PF....some simple quick and dirty monster encounters.
I still use those and a Pathfinder version would be just great with the material from Monsters revisited, etc.
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This is a good question and topic, but I find myself thinking first off: "nothing".Yea, that's what has me wondering. Does anyone NEED anything considering the true plethera of material out there already that is going to be easily converted over? So at best, this is tough.
Now that I give the OP more thought, I'd like to see books that demonstrate the adaptability and versatility of the 3.x system. How about a monster book, for example, made up of creatures from publisher's X's monster book but using publisher Y's templates? Or all the alternative races from publisher Z's books using classes from publishers A,B, and C class books?
Now that I give the OP more thought, I'd like to see books that demonstrate the adaptability and versatility of the 3.x system. How about a monster book, for example, made up of creatures from publisher's X's monster book but using publisher Y's templates? Or all the alternative races from publisher Z's books using classes from publishers A,B, and C class books?
So something more like MMV where you had a monster from MM3 but with a class from Complete Warrior or something like that but all OGL material instead of WotC material?
Interesting.
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So something more like MMV where you had a monster from MM3 but with a class from Complete Warrior or something like that but all OGL material instead of WotC material?Interesting.
Exactly. The combinations would be nigh-infinite. I could envision, for example, Paizo hosting a contest to see who comes up with the most creative combination(s) (as opposed to sheer firepower) with the top ten or so making it into a pdf with the rest of Paizo's creations. (Can you imagine what Logue would do to the standard fey from the SRD and some of the more offbeat OGL templates? Brrr....)
Pionics compatible with Pathfinder would be nice. One specific product I want to see is a possible integration of GR's Freeport to the Pathfinder RPG. Leave out the guns and cannon if you have to but the swashbuckling dark fantasy fun of Freeport is something I want to see for Pathfinder.