So... is Beta off to the presses now? If so, any hints on what changes to expect?


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Liberty's Edge

I don't have really anything to add beyond the subject line. There's really little point in talking about Alpha 3 right now, but I'd like to know what Paizo has done different between Alpha 3 and Beta.

Also, for clarification, will Beta be unchanged through the course of the year (until 2009), or will Paizo continue to be doing .pdf upgrades? The reason I ask is because I'm interested in a hard copy, in addition to the Beta, but wonder how quickly that hard copy may get outdated.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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I think Beta is just going through final signoffs now.... and I know if I were Jason, I probably wouldn't look at these forums until next week. Gotta decompress before you jump back in, you know...

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Combat Feats were removed. That means 3.5 feats are regular again.. what that means for the new feats that were combat feats.. who knows.

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Vic Wertz wrote:

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I think Beta is just going through final signoffs now.... and I know if I were Jason, I probably wouldn't look at these forums until next week. Gotta decompress before you jump back in, you know...

If I were Jason I wouldn't come in to work for a week. Go take a break.

It's a bit frustrating knowing that the Beta is in the can but won't be unwrapped for 2 months. I'm not complaining mind you, it's just one of those things.

-- Dennis

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Yup... the Beta shipped to the printer earlier this evening. As did Pathfinder 13, the Second Darkness Pathfinder Companion, the 256 page hardcover Campaign Setting, the massive Planet Stories book "Worlds of Their Own," the Curse of the Crimson Throne Map Folio, and the Caravans Map Pack.

That's well over a thousand pages of stuff out the door. I may now shift from worrying about hitting the shipping deadline to an entirely new set of worries now! :)

Dark Archive

James Jacobs wrote:
Yup... the Beta shipped to the printer earlier this evening. As did Pathfinder 13, the Second Darkness Pathfinder Companion, the 256 page hardcover Campaign Setting, the massive Planet Stories book "Worlds of Their Own," the Curse of the Crimson Throne Map Folio, and the Caravans Map Pack.

I've designated credit from my FLGS for both the PRPG Beta and the Campaign setting. Can't wait!

Sovereign Court

James Jacobs wrote:


That's well over a thousand pages of stuff out the door. I may now shift from worrying about hitting the shipping deadline to an entirely new set of worries now! :)

CONGRATS!!

Liberty's Edge

James Jacobs wrote:
I may now shift from worrying about hitting the shipping deadline to an entirely new set of worries now! :)

Hmmm . . . tantalizing. Any hints? :P

Sovereign Court

Do tell, James!

What are those ringlords up to now?

Paizo Employee Director of Games

WOOT!

It is done.. now I rest. Thank you everyone for all of the great feedback. I will post up an official announcement next week. Talk to you all then.

Sleepy-ville.. here I come

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Liberty's Edge

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

WOOT!

It is done.. now I rest. Thank you everyone for all of the great feedback. I will post up an official announcement next week. Talk to you all then.

Sleepy-ville.. here I come

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Sleep tight, Mr. Bulmahn.

Don't let the goblinses bite . . . too hard.


Happy to hear THAT!

Well then take your rest Mr. Bulmahn. ;)
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Hmm... I know this was asked before, but...
Will the beta be still free to download?


yes the beta will still be a free download,

Great to hear Jason...take your rest man you guys damn well earned it.

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

Congrats, Jason. That was a monster task to take on, enjoy your well-earned rest and play-time.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Congratulations Jason.

But don't forget, the only reward for a job well done is more work. :)


Congratulations guys - and great work Jason :-) Enjoy a well-earned rest!

Looking forward to the next few months' goodies with slavering anticipation ;-)


Well done guys! Can't wait!

Liberty's Edge

*fist high in the air ala Bender at the end of Breakfast Club*

YES! Well done, get well rested all!

-DM Jeff


Hawt Duyaaam!
Congrats ya Pazio peeps!

Dark Archive

Congratulations, guys!

I can't wait to get my hands on the Beta book (which I will definitely buy)! My players are very excited about Alpha, and frankly, I've never been as excited about running a D&D campaign as I'm now! :)

Liberty's Edge

Woo hoo! Me wantee!!!!!

Sovereign Court

Heathansson wrote:
Woo hoo! Me wantee!!!!!

Also wantee!!

Sovereign Court

"Many miles away, there a shadow on the door, of a cottage on the shore, of dark Scottish lake. Many miles away..."

Well done, Jason. Your efforts will resonate into the far future in ways unexpected and unpredictable, but marvelously profound. Your causal connection to the future of dungeons and dragons via PRPG cannot be underestimated. On behalf of my gaming group: THANK YOU JASON and the TEAM at PAIZO!


Cheers guys! Thank you Jason and the Paizo team for all your hard work. I'm sure you've all poured your love of the game into this, and I'm sure it will show!

Does this mean we'll be able to download it before Aug? :)

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Gnome-Eater wrote:

Cheers guys! Thank you Jason and the Paizo team for all your hard work. I'm sure you've all poured your love of the game into this, and I'm sure it will show!

Does this mean we'll be able to download it before Aug? :)

Thanks for the praise everybody. It makes it all worth it..

As for the early download bit.. no, I am afraid not. There are some other things I need to attend to for the release that are not ready yet.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing


Thanks for everything, Jason.

It must have been really hard to wafe through some of the insults and harsh criticisms that some jerks posted along the way. Especially since you're trying to tackle some problems that have gone unresolved for years. For every one little thing that I might still have some concerns about there are twenty or so things that I love. You've done a great job so far! Don't let anyone tell you different!

Thank you for your effort. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your openess to suggestion. And thank you for your creativity.

Way to go man!

Now go bed down!

I look foward to Beta with the bouncing butt of an 8 year old kid overdosing on caffeine and sugar on the way to Disneyworld.

Liberty's Edge

Congrats to the entire Paizo team!
All that hard work will definitely pay off... count on it!
Let the cont down to Beta begin!

3 Cheers for Paizo!
Hip Hip...

Dark Archive

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Gnome-Eater wrote:

Cheers guys! Thank you Jason and the Paizo team for all your hard work. I'm sure you've all poured your love of the game into this, and I'm sure it will show!

Does this mean we'll be able to download it before Aug? :)

Thanks for the praise everybody. It makes it all worth it..

As for the early download bit.. no, I am afraid not. There are some other things I need to attend to for the release that are not ready yet.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Since the beta isn't going to be released until August, will there be a update for Alpha 3? It doesn't have to have everything, but major changes like the changes to combat feats or any others you can think of? I only ask because its just over a month and a half between now and the Beta release, and out of date material makes playtesting slightly less useful, as it gives you less accurate feedback. It doesn't even have to be a full PDF like the Alphas or the Beta, Just something noting the major changes to the rules.

And keep up the good work.

Liberty's Edge

BM wrote:

Since the beta isn't going to be released until August, will there be a update for Alpha 3? It doesn't have to have everything, but major changes like the changes to combat feats or any others you can think of? I only ask because its just over a month and a half between now and the Beta release, and out of date material makes playtesting slightly less useful, as it gives you less accurate feedback. It doesn't even have to be a full PDF like the Alphas or the Beta, Just something noting the major changes to the rules.

And keep up the good work.

Jason did announce previously that after he allows his brain a few days to recover, he'll give us a post.

Dark Archive

Saurstalk wrote:


Jason did announce previously that after he allows his brain a few days to recover, he'll give us a post.

I read that, but didn't interpret it that way. I read it as a general progress report detailing what was changed but not giving specifics. I guess you can read that way and now you mention it, I do.

But still, it would be nice to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

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