3rd Party Publisher Support for Pathfinder RPG


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Liberty's Edge

Being an OGL product, I understand Pathfinder's rules are open content (and let me thank you profusely for a very generous and very clear OGC declaration) but I am wondering if you will be creating some sort of license to allow 3rd party publishers to declare on their products something to the effect of "Requires Pathfinder RPG for use" or "Compatible with Pathfinder RPG."

Thanks, and kudos on simply an awesome move.

Daniel M. Perez
Highmoon Media Productions
www.highmoonmedia.com


I just asked this in chat, and the ruleset will be usable by 3rd parties (obviously excluding IP).
Edit: As far as anything else...I don't know.

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Here's hoping for some PF:RPG logo branding!


I'm curious to hear about 3rd party options as well. It's clear that the rules are open, but I'm wondering if there's been any thought as to compatibility claims. Being able to use 3P rules is one thing (and thank you for not closing it off!), but actually informing customers of that is something else entirely.

Jon Brazer Enterprises

HighmoonMedia wrote:
(and let me thank you profusely for a very generous and very clear OGC declaration)

Ditto this.

Paizo Employee CEO

Ken Marable wrote:
I'm curious to hear about 3rd party options as well. It's clear that the rules are open, but I'm wondering if there's been any thought as to compatibility claims. Being able to use 3P rules is one thing (and thank you for not closing it off!), but actually informing customers of that is something else entirely.

This is on the list to talk about this week. We'll figure something out that I think will make everyone happy. Of course, there can't be any Pathfinder RPG products until GenCon 2009, so we have a tiny amount of time. :)

-Lisa

Jon Brazer Enterprises

Lisa Stevens wrote:
We'll figure something out that I think will make everyone happy.

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Liberty's Edge

Lisa Stevens wrote:
This is on the list to talk about this week. We'll figure something out that I think will make everyone happy. Of course, there can't be any Pathfinder RPG products until GenCon 2009, so we have a tiny amount of time. :)

Coolness. I know there's still time, but it's one of those questions that were bound to come up right away, so might as well ask it and have it be a feature. I know I have a lot of 3.5 fans that I'll be able to continue supporting thanks to you. :)


HighmoonMedia wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:
This is on the list to talk about this week. We'll figure something out that I think will make everyone happy. Of course, there can't be any Pathfinder RPG products until GenCon 2009, so we have a tiny amount of time. :)
Coolness. I know there's still time, but it's one of those questions that were bound to come up right away, so might as well ask it and have it be a feature. I know I have a lot of 3.5 fans that I'll be able to continue supporting thanks to you. :)

Ditto!


I for one am deeply concerned about opening Pathfinder to third parties. If this is merely a discussion about clarifying to customers that PF rules work with their campign worlds, fine. But if you are in any way opening up the development of the campaign world to other companies, I would be weary as a consumer that the campaign world would maintain the same high quality standards.

I have found that in RPG worlds (as well as other areas of fantasy), the quality tends to drop as a larger number of contributors (without proper controls) add their vision. Clearly there are exceptions, but I have already become concerned that you will be able to maintain the quality with your current stable of contributors (note: this is not a slight against any contributor, all of whom I think are exceptionally talented, But I am not sure if the collective vision has been as cohesive as it should be)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Bray Abbitt wrote:

I for one am deeply concerned about opening Pathfinder to third parties. If this is merely a discussion about clarifying to customers that PF rules work with their campign worlds, fine. But if you are in any way opening up the development of the campaign world to other companies, I would be weary as a consumer that the campaign world would maintain the same high quality standards.

I have found that in RPG worlds (as well as other areas of fantasy), the quality tends to drop as a larger number of contributors (without proper controls) add their vision. Clearly there are exceptions, but I have already become concerned that you will be able to maintain the quality with your current stable of contributors (note: this is not a slight against any contributor, all of whom I think are exceptionally talented, But I am not sure if the collective vision has been as cohesive as it should be)

We're just talking about letting other folks make products that are designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG rules set. We have no plans to open the campaign setting.

Sczarni

Vic Wertz wrote:


We're just talking about letting other folks make products that are designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG rules set. We have no plans to open the campaign setting.

As it should be


Lisa Stevens wrote:
Ken Marable wrote:
I'm curious to hear about 3rd party options as well. It's clear that the rules are open, but I'm wondering if there's been any thought as to compatibility claims. Being able to use 3P rules is one thing (and thank you for not closing it off!), but actually informing customers of that is something else entirely.

This is on the list to talk about this week. We'll figure something out that I think will make everyone happy. Of course, there can't be any Pathfinder RPG products until GenCon 2009, so we have a tiny amount of time. :)

-Lisa

I would hope instead of reinventing the wheel like WoTC chose to do with their deceptive OGL and D20SL, a simple currently existing license could be used.

It would be lovely to see RPG companies compete on the QUALITY of their work and the production VALUE of their products and not big pissing contests on who thought of what minor variation of XYZ first. Any licenses that restrict RIGHTS already held (Like OGL or D20SL) just shows the company in question is afraid of the former scenario and would rather have overpaid lawyers fight about the latter.

http://creativecommons.org/license/

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