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Erik Mona wrote:


Due to the lack of evidence supporting Victoria Waterfield, I think you may have isolated my favorite companion outfit on the hotness scale right there.

--Erik

There's lots of folks on the Outpost Gallifrey boards would agree with you.

We've recently been discussing new companion Catherine Tate's <ahem> bosom on those boards. It stemmed from a comment she made that breasts weren't designed for running.

If you're a menber at OG, check out this thread and see what the fuss is about.

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Wow, what a cool topic and thread!

Fave Doctors in order:

1. Tom Baker
2. Sylvester McCoy
3. David Tennent
4. Peter Davidson
5. Patrick T
6. Jon P
7. Christopher E
8. Paul M
9. Colin B

Fave Companions

1. Sarah Jane Smith (I was in love with her when I first found her at age 12; still am)
2. Peri
3. Leela
4. Ace
5. Romana (Mark 2)
6. Nyssa
7. Adric
8. Jo
9. Tegan
10. K-9


Although I first encountered the good Doctor through Tom Baker, my hands-down favorite is Jon Pertwee. I also esteem Bill Hartnell's performance. I am least impressed with Patrick Troughton, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy; I found Patrick's Doctor too silly for my tastes, and I think that the 6th and 7th Doctors were hamstrung by less than stellar writing. I think Dr. Who was at it's best during Jon's run and the first few seasons of Tom's tenure. However, I've got to say that the revitalized Dr. Who of the past few years is amazing stuff--emotional and gut-wrenching in a way the older shows never dared to be.


John Pertwee will always be the standard I will measure other doctors up to. At first I didn't like Tom Baker. He looked too goofy to be the Doctor. But he was just so darn good at it. Same with David Tenet. (especially because Tenet had such a hard act to follow coming right after Christopher Eccleston like that).
Anthony Ainley was my favorite guy to play the Master. Roger Delgado was a hard act to follow with that character, but he did it quite well.

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I'll agree with you on Anthony Ainley.

While I don't blame the actor for the current Master so much, the character seemed too, I don't know, cartoon crazy and not the devious kind he'd been.

Though the bit with the Jelly Babies made me laugh out loud.


Matthew Morris wrote:

I'll agree with you on Anthony Ainley.

While I don't blame the actor for the current Master so much, the character seemed too, I don't know, cartoon crazy and not the devious kind he'd been.

Though the bit with the Jelly Babies made me laugh out loud.

In regards to John Simm (the last Master). As a friend of mine said "He was a Master that was formed by his Doctor," in other words this Master is basically the antithesis of David's Doctor. He's funny, he runs around, has an answer for everything, and he likes to talk. David did an interview where he said that usually he gets to do all that stuff (run around and talk like a madman while everyone else on set sits and gapes), but in this story he was the one sitting and gaping at John's Master. I like to think that it was a conscious decision on the Master's part when he regenerated from the incredibly excellent Sir Derek Jacobi (his switch from Yana to Master was brilliant). If he can be young and strong then why not me? He's always been better at controlling the process than the Doctor has.

Now imagine a full story with Sir Jacobi as the Master....

GGG

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Great Green God wrote:

I like to think that it was a conscious decision on the Master's part when he regenerated from the incredibly excellent Sir Derek Jacobi (his switch from Yana to Master was brilliant). If he can be young and strong then why not me? He's always been better at controlling the process than the Doctor has.

Now imagine a full story with Sir Jacobi as the Master....

GGG

Oh i'd kill several PCs for that.

Unfortunately I missed that episode.

I hope the season 4 DVD had the charity episode, While Peter Davidson isn't my favourite old school Doctor, I want to see two doctors.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Great Green God wrote:

I like to think that it was a conscious decision on the Master's part when he regenerated from the incredibly excellent Sir Derek Jacobi (his switch from Yana to Master was brilliant). If he can be young and strong then why not me? He's always been better at controlling the process than the Doctor has.

Now imagine a full story with Sir Jacobi as the Master....

GGG

Oh i'd kill several PCs for that.

Unfortunately I missed that episode.

I hope the season 4 DVD had the charity episode, While Peter Davidson isn't my favourite old school Doctor, I want to see two doctors.

Sorry about that, though at this point (having been screened in most major English speaking markets, gone into reruns, and probably distributed online as well as having its box set out for a couple of weeks ago) I think it's a relatively open topic of discussion on a Doctor Who forum.

Once again though, sorry,
GGG

PS And what are you doing missing episodes for anyway? The fate of the universe depends on watching that show.

PPS Oh and Bruce Willis' character in Sixth Sense is (Spoiler Omitted).

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no need to apologize, I'd read about it a while ago. Spoilers don't bother me so much, I watch still for the execuion of the plot, as much as the plot.


Matthew Morris wrote:
no need to apologize, I'd read about it a while ago. Spoilers don't bother me so much, I watch still for the execuion of the plot, as much as the plot.

See it. It's very good.

The other Matt


Oh holy crap. The idea of Yana / 8th Doctor adventures turns me into a pre-reconstruction era Southern Belle.

I do declare, I've got the vapors! swoons

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Time Crash was wonderful. And RTD is on record saying that he loves multi-doctor stories. He'd previously said in public that they were rubbish, but this was to throw off fans--he also said he wouldn't bring back the Master, and we all know how that went.

So I'm hoping we get a big multi-doctor story as one of the stand-alone movies between seasons 4 and 5. They could pretty easily get the following cast, I should think:

David Tennant
Paul McGann
Peter Davison

Tom Baker and Chris Eccleston, I think, wouldn't deign to revisit the role (although Baker has said he now regrets not doing The Five Doctors, as well he should).

Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy (aside from sort of sucking) don't really look like they did back in the day, which may cause problems. Colin Baker is faaaaaaat now, and McCoy looks like an ancient leprechaun. But I dunno, maybe they could find a way to make it work.

Ainley is still my favorite Master, but John Simms is a perfect counterbalance to Tennant's Doctor, who is very, very good. Delgado demands respect for creating the role, and well, let's just decide not to talk about Eric Roberts, shall we?

Of course, they could always recast the roles of the dead actors, as they did with Hartnell in The Five Doctors, but while that worked when it was still possible to get "all" of them in one story, I think it might just steal screen time from actors I'd really like to see nowadays.

It would be nice to see Paul McGann back in action. He was really cheated of a good run, in my opinion, by that shoddy-ass FOX production in the 90s. It wasn't even wholly terrible, but by no means was it good enough. Unfortunately, McGann was _very_ good in it, despite the fact that little else was. Give him another chance, says I!

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Started with the Fourth Doctor, so have to vote:

1. Tom Baker

For #2, it's a little harder: Peter Davison followed close on the heels of Tom Baker, and was always a favorite, but I did enjoy the Christopher Eccleston too. So number two:

2. Tie between Peter Davison and Christopher Eccleston


Erik Mona wrote:

So I'm hoping we get a big multi-doctor story as one of the stand-alone movies between seasons 4 and 5. They could pretty easily get the following cast, I should think:

David Tennant
Paul McGann
Peter Davison

I'll second that.

GGG

PS Heh, who would have thought that Peter Davidson (one of my favs) would turn out to be the techy old Doctor in a multi-Doctor story.

If only Troughton were still around to steal the show.

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He was by far the best part of the Three Doctors and the Five Doctors.

I haven't seen the Two Doctors (shame!), but I imagine it's fair to assume he was the best part of that, too, since it certainly wasn't Colin Baker or one of his pathetic companions.

I am quite a fan of Jaimie, too, though.


I've enjoyed watching all the Doctors, with the exception of Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy. I grew up through Pertwee-Baker-Davison, and also enjoyed older episodes featuring the first two doctors. I was happy to carry on with Baker2, but pretty soon found the episodes to be irritating and, for me, unwatchable. When I later heard that the Doctor had regenerated again, into McCoy, I went back for another look - but felt that he was extremely limited as an actor, without any gravitas. In contrast, Russell T's relaunch of the series has been fantastic, with two excellent new Doctors. It's hard for me to choose a favourite from such a roll-call.

Erik Mona wrote:

So I'm hoping we get a big multi-doctor story as one of the stand-alone movies between seasons 4 and 5. They could pretty easily get the following cast, I should think:

David Tennant
Paul McGann
Peter Davison

Tom Baker and Chris Eccleston, I think, wouldn't deign to revisit the role (although Baker has said he now regrets not doing The Five Doctors, as well he should).

I've been hoping for this for a while, too. I think that Peter Davison and Tom Baker both now look too different from their Doctors to appear without some jiggery-pokery, though. Eccleston probably wouldn't return, although the personality of his Doctor would make for a very interesting contrast with Tennant's and McGann's.

Erik Mona wrote:
It would be nice to see Paul McGann back in action. He was really cheated of a good run, in my opinion, by that shoddy-ass FOX production in the 90s. It wasn't even wholly terrible, but by no means was it good enough. Unfortunately, McGann was _very_ good in it, despite the fact that little else was. Give him another chance, says I!

Absolutely - I've been saying exactly the same thing, to anyone who'd listen, for years. I think it's a real shame that we've been deprived of the adventures of McGann's Doctor. I'd even be happy to see a future series of Doctor Who fill in those missing years, and show McGann's regeneration into Eccleston.

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Callum wrote:
I've been hoping for this for a while, too. I think that Peter Davison and Tom Baker both now look too different from their Doctors to appear without some jiggery-pokery, though.

I guess you don't know about Time Crash, the seven-minute special that aired in the UK this past month, which pairs Tennant and Davison. Peter looks just a hair older, though they explain that away (unnecessarily, I think) with a single line.

Callum wrote:
I think it's a real shame that we've been deprived of the adventures of McGann's Doctor.

McGann has appeared in a bunch of Doctor Who audio dramas, and his Doctor has also been featured in many novels.


Great Green God wrote:
Now imagine a full story with Sir Jacobi as the Master.... GGG

That would be most excellent. He did a far better job of it than the young upstart that replaced him. Was the new Master consciously or unconsciously modelled on Tony Blair? Either way, his zaniness and nervous energy were too much for me; I prefer the more sinister, cunning, devious and calculating Masters. Jacobi was perfect for the part of a kindly-looking but really evil Master.

And I'm pretty sure I don't want to see Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy in any kind of reunion story. Sometimes real life intrudes too much on fantasy tv life, as when old actors try to reclaim the glory (?) of their youth. Let it be.

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Both of them are old and fat and beyond even looking like they used to (especially Colin Baker), so I wouldn't worry about it too much.


Erik Mona wrote:
Both of them are old and fat and beyond even looking like they used to (especially Colin Baker), so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

While I will say that Doctors 6 and 7 might not be my faves (though I did like some chunks of Sylvester's later stories and perhaps where his journey was heading), I tend to lay more blame on the scripting rather than the actors with a few (but very notable) exceptions. Starting midway through Peter's run and ending somewhere in the middle of Sylvester's the scripts where just horrible. Upon hearing some of the more recent audios featuring Baker and McCoy I am left wondering how much better Doctor Who might have been during the mid-eighties had the writing and production team been as on form as they had been both earlier and now in the show's run.

GGG


Erik Mona wrote:

He was by far the best part of the Three Doctors and the Five Doctors.

I haven't seen the Two Doctors (shame!), but I imagine it's fair to assume he was the best part of that, too, since it certainly wasn't Colin Baker or one of his pathetic companions.

I am quite a fan of Jaimie, too, though.

Actually if you are going to watch a story set during the Sixth Doctor's troubled run Two Doctors is not all that bad. Heck, it is the last appearance of the sontarans (until this coming season). ;) And who could resist a delicious Robert Holmes' villain like Shockeye! Shepherd's Pie indeed.

Bon appetit!
GGG


Vic Wertz wrote:


I guess you don't know about Time Crash, the seven-minute special that aired in the UK this past month, which pairs Tennant and Davison. Peter looks just a hair older, though they explain that away (unnecessarily, I think) with a single line.

Wow...

My wife (who is British) just flipped when I told her. She didn't know about it. This will make a nice little present tonight. You can still watch it on YouTube.

I like-
Davidson, Tennant, Ecclestein, and Baker in that order. Baker is there mostly because he was the first. Thought Davidson had really cool episodes though.


Christmas Special is right around the corner, and today the BBC announced it's gonna be 71 minutes long, not 60.

And extra 11 minutes of Whovian goodness.

Hoopla!

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prjt2501 wrote:

Christmas Special is right around the corner, and today the BBC announced it's gonna be 71 minutes long, not 60.

And extra 11 minutes of Whovian goodness.

Hmm. I wonder how that will run in the US. Sci-Fi has been trimming episodes all along, but that one's *way* too long for their hour-slot, and yet a little bit too short for a 90-minute slot. (Maybe they'll add in Time Crash and go to 90.)


I don't know that they can do Time Crash...that was sort of specially commissioned by Children in Need, and there may be clearance issues. They (the BBC) can't make anything off Time Crash, because it was for charity.

Likely it'll either have 10 minutes cut from it (that's my guess), or they'll find something else to pad out the slot when it airs...like 19 minutes of promos for their latest made for TV movie about giant crocodiles or something...

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prjt2501 wrote:
I don't know that they can do Time Crash...that was sort of specially commissioned by Children in Need, and there may be clearance issues. They (the BBC) can't make anything off Time Crash, because it was for charity.

They included the previous Children in Need segment on the Series 1 DVDs... but I don't know if it's ever been broadcast in the US.


I don't know if it was broadcast here in the US, to be honest...

And I believe, but am not 100% sure, that they had to negotiate something to include it on the DVD set. Again, not 100% sure. I'm sure one of the posters here who frequents the (former?) OG forum could say....I used to post there but haven't been there since the middle/end of Series 2.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Hmm. I wonder how that will run in the US. Sci-Fi has been trimming episodes all along, but that one's *way* too long for their hour-slot, and yet a little bit too short for a 90-minute slot. (Maybe they'll add in Time Crash and go to 90.)

Sadly, I disagree. In general, they run at most 43 minutes of program in a 60 minute slot - 17 minutes of commercials. 71 minutes in a 90 minute slot only leaves 19 minutes for commercials. I think we'd be optimistic to get 66 minutes of programming in a 90 minute timeslot, which leaves a good 5 minutes of show to trim. Grr.


Hi, all--

Though I grew up with Tom Baker and Peter Davison's versions of The Doctor, and they still hold a fond place in my heart, I have to say that Eccleston and Tennant (in no particular order) are my favorites.

Regards,
Darrell King

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Time for this thread to have a little regeneration!

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Erik Mona wrote:

Time Crash was wonderful. And RTD is on record saying that he loves multi-doctor stories. He'd previously said in public that they were rubbish, but this was to throw off fans--he also said he wouldn't bring back the Master, and we all know how that went.

So I'm hoping we get a big multi-doctor story as one of the stand-alone movies between seasons 4 and 5. They could pretty easily get the following cast, I should think:

David Tennant
Paul McGann
Peter Davison

Tom Baker and Chris Eccleston, I think, wouldn't deign to revisit the role (although Baker has said he now regrets not doing The Five Doctors, as well he should).

Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy (aside from sort of sucking) don't really look like they did back in the day, which may cause problems. Colin Baker is faaaaaaat now, and McCoy looks like an ancient leprechaun. But I dunno, maybe they could find a way to make it work.

Ainley is still my favorite Master, but John Simms is a perfect counterbalance to Tennant's Doctor, who is very, very good. Delgado demands respect for creating the role, and well, let's just decide not to talk about Eric Roberts, shall we?

Of course, they could always recast the roles of the dead actors, as they did with Hartnell in The Five Doctors, but while that worked when it was still possible to get "all" of them in one story, I think it might just steal screen time from actors I'd really like to see nowadays.

It would be nice to see Paul McGann back in action. He was really cheated of a good run, in my opinion, by that shoddy-ass FOX production in the 90s. It wasn't even wholly terrible, but by no means was it good enough. Unfortunately, McGann was _very_ good in it, despite the fact that little else was. Give him another chance, says I!

Why limit yourself?

Have all ten at once, as this webcomic does a surprisingly good job at delivering.

One of my favorite lines.

The 5th Doctor to the 4th and the latter's rejoinder. A lampshade to all the times Tom Baker boycotted gatherings of the various Doctors on screen and off.

"Decided to join us this time have you?"

"You'd all just bungle it up without me."

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I'm going to have to go old school for my two favorite doctors:

1) Patrick Troughton - without him I doubt we'd still have Dr Who today. Quite frankly I think he was the most talented actor to ever portray the Doctor and he was the first to truly add whimsy to the role. Troughton could be silly, act the clown, but then turn that around in a heartbeat and become deathly serious. If they had gone with another William Hartnell I doubt the show would have gone another season.

2) Tom Baker - He's the Doctor I remember seeing on TV growing up (though I was watching re-runs mainly) and he is for me the iconic Doctor. When I close my eyes and picture the Doctor Tom is usually the man I see with his scarf, trench coat, and fedora. I also loved the character quite a bit. Tom seemed to be playing on notes that Troughton played years before, being silly at times, but with a clear underlying genius.

Also I'd like to say that McCoy seemed like he could have been a great Doctor, he had the on screen presence of Troughton, and he did seem to have a similar dramatic range, but by then viewership was down and the writing was horrible. Also it didn't help that Colin Preceded him, and Colin Baker, IMO, was the worst of the Doctors.

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I'm a big Baker fan but I've found myself bouncing back and forth between Matt Smith and Christopher Eccelston for my #2.


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I've watched Doctor Who on and off for over 30 years. I have never really had a favorite doctor. I recently started purchasing the old DVDs and was disheartened when I discovered that the main reason that so few Hartnell and Troughton episodes were available is that the BBC is Evil^H^H^H^H copied over many of their episodes. All are apparently extant in audio format (which you can get) and in Black and White which 2|Entertainment has not yet started releasing in bulk. I've been working through the backlog and am at Story 92.

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1. Matt Smith
2. Sylvester McCoy
3. Tom Baker

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While there may have been Doctors I liked more than others, the series would be poorer for the lack of any one of them.


LazarX wrote:


While there may have been Doctors I liked more than others, the series would be poorer for the lack of any one of them, except for Colin Baker.

Finished your sentence for you. ;)

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Xabulba wrote:
LazarX wrote:


While there may have been Doctors I liked more than others, the series would be poorer for the lack of any one of them, except for Colin Baker.
Finished your sentence for you. ;)

Now in Colin Baker's defense, I've heard good things about the 'Stranger' series he and Nicola Bryant did as 'Not quite Who'.

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Xabulba wrote:
LazarX wrote:


While there may have been Doctors I liked more than others, the series would be poorer for the lack of any one of them, except for Colin Baker.
Finished your sentence for you. ;)

I disagree. Even Colin Baker's Doctor is an important part of the pastiche.

And he's not nearly as frightening as 10 or 11.

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To be fair much of my Colin Baker hate stems from writing and wardrobe, but I do feel that he was a weaker actor then usually fills the roll, and because of this nothing about his run jumps out at me except for the flaws.


Colin Baker's Doctor was writen and portrayed as a belligerent bully that physically and verbally abuses his companions. I ignore CB's Doctor like I ignore the Star Wars prequels.

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Tom Baker
David Tennant

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My least favorite would be David Tennant. He didn't start out that way, but by the end he had become (in my opinion) less of a character and more of a cliche-spouting machine. I really can't think of any other fictional protagonist that I wished would just hurry up and die, but during Tennant's last ~20 minutes as the Doctor, I literally yelled at the TV: "Just die, for f**!'s sake!"

And don't even get me started on the obsession with a chav shopgirl from a council estate. At least the other Doctors let their annoying companions be a part of the show's past when they left/died. The 5th Doctor didn't constantly tell Peri how inferior she was to Adric.


Pertwee. My first exposure to the character. It helps that he had the best (IMO) companion of them all (possible exception being the new one).

Liberty's Edge

Pertwee has definitely moved up my list. He grows on you.

Also, even though CB is still my least favorite Doctor; I think he gets too much blame for his Doctor. Blame the writers as much or more than the actor....

Got all the Davison and Colin Baker episodes on DVD now, and am almost there on Pertwee, TB and McCoy. Got all the CE, DT and the movie also. Love Dr Who on DVD and the extras are pretty cool too!

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Kthulhu wrote:

My least favorite would be David Tennant. He didn't start out that way, but by the end he had become (in my opinion) less of a character and more of a cliche-spouting machine. I really can't think of any other fictional protagonist that I wished would just hurry up and die, but during Tennant's last ~20 minutes as the Doctor, I literally yelled at the TV: "Just die, for f&&~'s sake!"

And don't even get me started on the obsession with a chav shopgirl from a council estate. At least the other Doctors let their annoying companions be a part of the show's past when they left/died. The 5th Doctor didn't constantly tell Peri how inferior she was to Adric.

I agree. I almost turned of The End of Time about 20 minutes before it was over, just because I couldn't deal with the insensate whining. "I don't wanna die" *boo hoo* "poor me".

All I could think was "Dude, you're a hero, don't turn it into less than it is by crying so much"


dmchucky69 wrote:
Pertwee has definitely moved up my list. He grows on you.

A rousing "+1" to that.


1. Baker (yup, grew up with him on Sunday mornings. Thanks, PBS).

2. Pertwee

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My first Doctor was Tom Baker. Peter Davidson was great, but Tom Baker was always the quintessential Doctor to me. Then Doctor Who was no more for a very long time. Then they resurrected it. Eccleston was a good Doctor, but still no Tom Baker. Then David Tennant came along with a true zeal for the role. Tennant surpassed Tom Baker in many ways mainly due to great story telling. And when Tennant left I wondered how could anyone replace him. Then there was this episode with a young and vibrant Doctor with Fish Fingers and Custard and a bow-tie, for bow-ties are cool. Matt Smith brought a youth and energy, but at times too a rage. His wealth of emotions did not go unnoticed even by his peers, as he is the only Doctor nominated for a Bafta. Though I am not an actor, I noticed too. The jury may still be out on Matt Smith, but so far so good.

Later,

Mazra


I can't get BBC America here in Las Vegas of all places, so I must make the seasonal DVD purchases via Amazon.com. I've only caught season six of Matt Smith's run and I remain unconvinced in his role. As of the first 12 to 13 episodes, he seems quite capable of handling it.

I, too, grew with the Tom Baker episodes and thus he remains a close personal favorite. I ceased watching the series after Baker left and remained so until McGann was handed the reins of a single made-for-television movie. Christopher Eccleston was too brief, but he made a deep impression for one simple year. Dave Tennant was incredible especially in the Waters of Mars and the End of time. So...., here my favorite's list.

01. Dave Tennant
02. Tom Baker
03. Matt Smith
04. Christopher Eccleston
05. Paul McGann

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