Hi guys I am new to this (obviously), just thought I'd start up a thread to see if any other campaigns had a DM's most targeted PC? My character, a rogue(who acts more accordingly with Merriam-Webster's definition of a rogue, than the Player's Handbook's definition of a rogue, i.e. he urinated on Meravanchi's (s.p.?) suitcase after searching it for valuables, after he was ordered by Meravanchi to carry it to his "private cabin" on the Sea Wyvern) is absolutely hated by our DM (Gay P is our nickname for him). So far he has tried to kill me in every dungeon and almost succeeded in the temple of the Demogorgan (s.p.?) last game after I was reduced to negative four hit points on one attack. Anyone else with this problem?
Hi guys I am new to this (obviously), just thought I'd start up a thread to see if any other campaigns had a DM's most targeted PC? My character, a rogue(who acts more accordingly with Merriam-Webster's definition of a rogue, than the Player's Handbook's definition of a rogue, i.e. he urinated on Meravanchi's (s.p.?) suitcase after searching it for valuables, after he was ordered by Meravanchi to carry it to his "private cabin" on the Sea Wyvern) is absolutely hated by our DM (Gay P is our nickname for him). So far he has tried to kill me in every dungeon and almost succeeded in the temple of the Demogorgan (s.p.?) last game after I was reduced to negative four hit points on one attack. Anyone else with this problem?
Your DM really should not be gunning for you. That said I get the impression that your egging him on by pushing his buttons. Your DM is making the larger mistake in this case as he is pretty much duty bound to play impartially but if you are pushing your DMs buttons that's not very sportsman like either and if he does kill you out of some kind of sense of spite you'll have no one to really blame but yourself.
It seems a little odd, as players ought to be allowed to play their characters, but in general you should not be thrashing the DMs concept of a class, or race. If the DMs view of Elves is wise and Ancient I'd avoid making one that plays like a Kender with brain damage. DMs usually spend a lot of time trying to create immersive fantasy worlds and if the point of your character appears to be, destroy any hope of anybody managing to immerse themself in the world, your going to draw out the DMs ire.
My bet, in this case, is your drawing the wrath of the DM by urinating on the briefcase (and more then likely a string of similar feats during the campaign). Likely your DM is trying to create some kind of heroic fantasy with this campaign. As a rule that's what APs are all about. By engaging in toilet humour your making it impossible for this campaign to be about heroic fantasy. Toilet humour and heroic fantasy basically don't mix. Hence it is probable that your DM is gunning for you because he (or she) feels your ruining the game and if your character can be dispatched then maybe you will make one that's purpose does not seem to be about destroying the atmosphere of the campaign.
So I feel your DM has made the greater error in committing attempted murder but if I'm the judge he gets some leniency as he had a good reason and the best interests of the most people at heart. Basically speaking if your defecating on things in the campaign and your DM is not cracking up – then stop with the juvenile antics and try and embrace the spirit of the campaign.
Favorite Punchbag? Yeah... I've got one of them as well!
I'm DM'ing in a group that has been playing weekly games for just short of 10 year. One of my players has a habit of doing (incredible) stupid things. Getting punched to near-death and not retreating even though the rest of the group are fleeing, not asking for help or healing, not protecting himself a single bit - the list goes on.
I try really hard not to kill him, but he's not making it easy for me. So his characters die a lot. Fortunately, he loves to create new characters - I guess that's partly his motivation for acting so suicidal.
Back to your problem: If I were in your shoes, I would stop calling your GM names (behind his back?) and rethink the assumption that D&D is about the GM vs. the players. It's about experiencing a story together and it's about having fun at the table.
If the game isn't funny for both GM and players, then I would guess that your group is heading towards an iceberg.
Some GM's would feel it as you were peeing on their work when you're doing what you did to that suitcase. You should aim to do only mischief that makes the whole table - including the GM laugh.
I also think that you should appreciate the work that your GM put in the game a bit more. He's probably devoting about twice the amount of time and energy in the adventure that you are. I feel that you're getting what you're giving - and that you should think more about how you behave at the table.
/ Henning
When I DM, I sometime target attacks to the player (not character) that can "take it" more. If I have two PCs close to death and the bad-guy can take out one of them, it will usually (not always) be the player with the most years experience in the game. I'm sort of applying Mill's "greatest happiness" principle here. The longer you have played, the more likely you understand that risking character death is part of the game.
Yeah, this bites when its your character. But when everyone is having fun, everyone is more likely to play again. The dead guy didn't "not" have fun, he just didn't get to maximize his fun. Meanwhile the newbie (or the crybaby, or the drama queen, or whatever tired cliche player it is that has problems accepting consequences) had maximum fun.
So cheer up. Maybe the DM hates you. But maybe he thinks you can handle it when the chips are down.
Nah. Probably he hates you. That jerk! (kidding!)
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Well,....the whole urinating on the bag thing....if I was DM, doing some stuff like that once or twice might be cute and funny and all, but if you kept it up I would think you'd be asking for it. And, think about it: I don't have all the details and all, but if you do go through life in general trying to "piss" everybody off all the time, you should expect repercussions. It's realistic, after all.
Oh I defintely do do things to push my DM's buttons as we are all coworkers anyway and we joke around the majority of the time.
I am well aware that I do bring it upon my self because I truely don't mind it but find it incredibly amusing when JP looks across the table with a look similar to a pioconics(s.p.?) "I will set you ablaze right now" look.
So in short I was just curious if you DM's had similar players that you enjoy to target and/or just plain hate. lol.
I am well aware that I do bring it upon my self because I truely don't mind it but find it incredibly amusing when JP looks across the table with a look similar to a pioconics(s.p.?) "I will set you ablaze right now" look.
I believe you're referring to some sort of psionic mind blast reserved especially for players who persistently buck the storyline.
I really dont understand the whole DM attempting to kill your PC. If he wanted your PC dead, what dosn't he just kill him? Maybe I'm old school, but what the DM says goes. So if he wanted you dead why not have a Kracken looking for an apertief pluck your pc from the sea wyvern? Oops... someone poisined your water. Thats a
DC: 37 fort save. damage....oh 8d10 con / 8d8 con .... what poison is that? ......Homebrew.......
If the DM wants your PC dead, it's really not hard.
Sounds like you are derailing the game intentionally, which calls into question your presence there in the first place.
If the fun for you is in disrupting the game, why are you there in the first place?
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I had one guy that had to roll up so many new characters, that eventually we just gave him a character sheet between two pieces of plexi-glass. He was given a wax pencil and that is what he created characters on from then on. Was getting way too expensive to supply him with character sheets.
The bad thing is that I wasn't even targeting him. His character deaths were purely because of bad luck, stupid decisions, and inexperience. When he first joined I took it easy on him and let the other, more experienced characters coach him into being a better player.
Finally after about 6 months of at least one character death per session, he settled on a wizard that became one of the most powerful and feared in my campaign. I have no clue what happened I guess he was just waiting for the right character.
Oh I defintely do do things to push my DM's buttons as we are all coworkers anyway and we joke around the majority of the time.
I am well aware that I do bring it upon my self because I truely don't mind it but find it incredibly amusing when JP looks across the table with a look similar to a pioconics(s.p.?) "I will set you ablaze right now" look.
So in short I was just curious if you DM's had similar players that you enjoy to target and/or just plain hate. lol.
I doubt you'll find this to much. Its incredably frustrating as a DM to have a player destroy the look and feel of a campaign. I suspect that at some point this comes to a head there is a blow up and feelings are hurt. At that point the campaign probably dies. The situation is simply to volitile to continue over the long term.
If your DM knew how things where going to go down he made an error in running STAP. This party should not be doing heroic fantasy. The DM should just be grabbing an adventure an hour or so before game time and skimming over it. That way it really does not matter what antics the characters get up to. The DM has put minimal investment into the campaign and does not really loose anything when it gets derailed.
No I am not intentionally derailing the game and do enjoy playing however there are just some small nudges I can't help but take at our DM...but here's the thing, all of our PC's do it (with the exception of the mage) however it is my character that seems to be hated the most.
And for the record, I am not complaining. In fact, I think it makes the that much more challenging and enjoyable; by the end of the night we all leave laughing about things that occurred during the game and we all have fun---even the DM.
okay, so here's the deal. I am the DM in question. while what "tool" has said here is partially the truth, he mistakenly thinks i am "out to get him". This could not be further from the truth. there have been many times where i have had to fudge a roll here and there in order to keep him alive.
this is a pickup game and everyone at the table besides 1 is a newbie. i don't use this term in its negative connotation. this is the first game "tool" has been in. it's supposed to be light and fun and not really taken seriously. and while he gets on my nerves from time to time, sometimes he comes up with a harebrained scheme that actually works out in the end. about the nickname and the merivanchi "incident" i was a little upset, but you learn to roll with the punches, take it with a grain of salt and keep the game going. it actually made it into one of the top 10 funniest sessions with my reactions from merivanchi and the dynamic of his servants.
so in summation, i don't go out fo my way to kill "tool"'s PC, it just happens that sometimes he's in the wrong place at the wrong time, through either fate or design on his part.
As a player I often tend to work with the DM to help the story line. I find that it works best for everyones enjoyment (including the DM).
That said, if I am playing a rascal, I play a rascal. Although I avoid toilet humor I might consider messing with a snobbish NPC and even urinate in his wine and offer him a "Fine rare new vintage".
There is a line and I try not to cross it and ruin the fun for anyone. Both players and DMs.
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I don't target PC's usually, unless they become disruptive to the other players, or they start doing really stupid stuff.
What I will do is put out situations that I know certain players will willingly walk face first into, due to Munchkin behavior or not learning from past mistakes. Most of the time, the player that I'm most prone to doing this to, will often identify the situation as a "Munchkin Trap" and then proceed to walk head first into it anyway.
As far as Avner goes, My group killed him five times before leaving him dead. He was a pain in the ass, and I knew from the begining that my players would hate him.
As far as intentionaly pushing your DMs buttons, I say do it at your own risk. Who ever said a Dm should be impartial was dilusional. It is a human playing that part, not some saint of neutrality. Piss them off on purpose and watch them ruin your day. The worst that you can do is throw a fit, leave the game and stop playing with that group. Which could very well be what they want you to do.
When I play, my characters are the ones the DMs gun for.
Reason: I haven't lost a character in the past 25 years - reduced to negative hit points above -9 but never killed.
I am extremely tactically minded, I never do anything without having a personal back up plan, I am a chronic min/maxer, I am infamous for my out of the box thinking and I have the luck of the gods when it comes to crunch time. In sort, I am a real pain in the arse to most DMs.
It is sort of a competition among the DMs (our group takes turns at DMing) to see who can finally break my 'lucky streak' and have one of my characters take a dirt nap. Of course, they can't be real blatant about gunning for me to avoid looking completely biased but I (and others) have noticed the 'attentions' my characters get. ;-)
I don't pick on any particular player, but in the last two sessions the Shifter Barbarian, only stayed on his feat because he was shifting and raging, and the double bonus to hit points stopped him going unconscious, long enough to drink a cure potion.
He also failed every reflex save to avoid the acidic death throes of all but one of the Savage creatures they killed. Got hit by a bite attack and failed his fortitude save, mind you so did the Fighter. So at least it's not just my dice that hate him but his own.
When I play, my characters are the ones the DMs gun for.
Reason: I haven't lost a character in the past 25 years - reduced to negative hit points above -9 but never killed.
I am extremely tactically minded, I never do anything without having a personal back up plan, I am a chronic min/maxer, I am infamous for my out of the box thinking and I have the luck of the gods when it comes to crunch time. In sort, I am a real pain in the arse to most DMs.
It is sort of a competition among the DMs (our group takes turns at DMing) to see who can finally break my 'lucky streak' and have one of my characters take a dirt nap. Of course, they can't be real blatant about gunning for me to avoid looking completely biased but I (and others) have noticed the 'attentions' my characters get. ;-)
hahaha yes that sounds very similar to my character. sometimes i just go ahead and do things that i know are going to get me into a bit of a sticky wicket. for example that DC 35 magic fireball trap on the throne where the monkey's slept in the temple of the demogorgan. i knew i couldn't stop it so i just volunteered to take the damage.
Personally I think the DM's being soft on you. You should have died facing the Savage Monkeys when you fell in the same square as a monkey and got dropped to -9 hit points. The monkey and you shared a square it would do 1d6 acid burst and a further 1d6 a round after it was died while you lay in it's acid corpse.
Personally I think the DM's being soft on you. You should have died facing the Savage Monkeys when you fell in the same square as a monkey and got dropped to -9 hit points. The monkey and you shared a square it would do 1d6 acid burst and a further 1d6 a round after it was died while you lay in it's acid corpse.
Actually that never happened. The druid shot the Savage Monkey that was on me, the arrow traveled through it and hit me, and I was reduced to five hit points. The next round the druid healed me back to three quarters or so and we continued. I've only hit the negatives twice so far; once against the worms on
Dread and in hte temple of the Demogrogan.