Here's to discuss stuff.
Hello hello! Thank you Arjuna!
Bonjour mon amis, lets us liberate the downtrodden from their vile opressors! Vive la Libere! Vive le Andorien!
So, a bonded Witch, a Bard, a Paragon of Torag, an unchained rouge and a swashbuckler.
On second sight:
@Elias and Bennie
3 Rapier Users? Cest Magnifique, we are le 3 musketeers! And without these annoying noisy gunpowder weapons! If I am not using 3 musketeer style things to cast heroism on you I am playing a Galtean wrong :).
Oh wait, Incidentally I have 3 level 2 spell slots!
@Hendrina
Oh, Linguistics for social skills? Thats cool, never seen that!
Predicted problems mechanically:
0: Flying Swarms
1: Swarms
2: Fliers
3: Having to close a lot of distance (we can probably bluff and stealth quite well though, also, haste).
I still have some money to spend so Hendrina can pick up Burning Hands for her spell book. I'd meant to grab it initially but forgot. It works well for swarms usually.
The feat Versatile Weapon can be handy for handling DR especially since we have so many rapier users.
Yeah, the Orator feat is really nice. It's almost like Versatile Performance except more limited in how it can be used.
Afternoon all, just dotting in. I'll be back this evening (couple of hours) to give everyone's alias a good read-through.
Thank you Arjuna for this opportunity, really looking forward to this!
EQ
Buff? Likely. Stealth? I'm a cleric! LOL!!!
(Flying) Swarms and Fliers in general.... True! I've got a few flasks of Alchemists Fire and Acid. But Hendrina's got the better answer!
Buff? Likely. Stealth? I'm a cleric! LOL!!!
(Flying) Swarms and Fliers in general.... True! I've got a few flasks of Alchemists Fire and Acid. But Hendrina's got the better answer!
Oh, do not worry mon Ami, several of our party members can have quite the skill in the sacred art of makeup. We will disguise vou as well, perhaps a rock? Perhaps a Golem? Perhaps une Siege tower? Qui, une siege tower is a perfect fit for your stately figure, excellement! Aurelie starts teasing.
"Indeed! A Siege Tower of Torag! Made of good solid stone! And when I move I'll be a Siege Golem! That will be quite the disguise...."
I am probably fine heroisming Julian Elias and Bennie, it is alas the lot of the Bard to use like, all of their level 2 slots for heroism :).
I actually seem to have the highest AC in the party (I think Julian gets more with barkskin and shield), so my combat will be performing, trashtalking and providing flanks.
Hm, Hendrina also has Heroism. Do you think I should switch it out for something nastier, or should we just use Heroism a whole bunch?
I had originally planned to have my armor and shield +1, but ran out of gold with other stuff that I wanted just that little bit more.... But you'll be singing and Inspiring us all, right? Maybe I should switch the wand of Bless for something else.... A Bard in the party makes that worse than useless! Divine Favor? Fallback Strategy? Lucky Number?
For what its worth:
Aurelie Buff package:
Performance
+2 competence to attack and damage rolls, +2 morale vs charm and fear
Heroism:
+2 morale to attacks, saves (does not stack with the bonus vs charm and fear), skill checks
Tears to wine:
+2 enchantment to int and wis skills
Everybody gets tears to wine and performance, our frontline gets heroism on top. What is often undervalued is the +4 to perception from that combo.
I will try to see if I can get an OK range option somehow, but I currently dont see it.
I think I'll switch Heroism for Dispel Magic. Heroism is a 3rd level spell for Hendrina, so more expensive for her. Dispel Magic is a fundamental spell and will add to our flexibility.
Really? I thought performance was a morale bonus to attack and damage? So Bless being morale +1 to attack would stack when Heroism wasn't used. Worth keeping then!
Also have Prayer which is a luck bonus +1 to hit and weapon damage, and skill checks. And applies negative to opponents.
I've never used Tears to Wine before. Interesting spell, and the 10 minute/level duration is excellent! I have the Guided Hand feat so that would give me another +1 to hit! -Edit- Nope! I have a Headband of Wisdom that already gives me the +2 Enhancement bonus to Wisdom....
I had some parties with a Bard and an SKald (who hand out mostly morale boni actually) oh boy the buffs!
Our TWF Slayer got +6 to STR, Con, immunity to prone, +3 insight AC, -1 AC, all his weapons counted as all alignments, +3 resistance, +3 morale to will from the Skald (World Serpent Totem) and then the Bard buffs, and then also Heroism with extreme mood swings.
Also, Spirit totem is one of the worst totem lines for barbs, one of the best one for skalds.
Everyone in your party gets an extra negative energy slam that scales with the Skalds stats. Totally hilarious.
That almost sounds like some of the mythic threads I've viewed. +whatever to everything under the sun, and the entire party acting before the enemy even knows what is hitting them!
Mythic is bonkers.
The only thing that, as written, directly threatens a high level Mythic Party, Demon Lord wise, is Nocticula, because she can joink half of it with relatively high odds and turn it upon the rest.
Koschtschies stun lock is a bit of a pain to 1v1, but as a solo encounter for a full party he doesnt do much.
Initial thoughts
Love the characters, this is going to be ace!
Three Rapier users! If we don't toss our blades to each other during fights then shame on us. Also I think we might struggle for stealth, we're all going to be shouting "up the people!" too loudly.
I'm looking through peoples equipment (Bennie, I think you over paid for your sword, unless its +2) and it's looking like I've gone more for variety and utility (aka Japes!) over functionality (i.e. I could used a belt of DEX) Are people OK with this under optimisation? I could drop some bits and squeeze in a belt if people think I'm not going to be pulling my weight.
@GM Do you want to give us an idea of what you liked about each of the characters, that way can make sure we play up those aspects.
@GM Do you want to give us an idea of what you liked about each of the characters, that way can make sure we play up those aspects.
Huh! It had never occurred to me before to ask this question. Yeah, I'd like to know too if you wouldn't mind sharing GM.
I'd say stick with what you have if you like it Elias. It's rarely the case that optimization is really needed around here. I'm only going with such a high INT because witches are probably the most INT thirsty class in Pathfinder. Other full arcane casters like Wizards can usually get by with less because of their more varied spell list. Debuffers travel a difficult path.
On the subject of boni, Elias waving his flag around gives us all +1 (morale) to hit, damage, and fear/charm.
So unless I'm mistaken that's +1 Dmg on top of Heroism and +1 hit/dmg without heroism. No bonus to saves when inspire courage is up but otherwise stacks with the benefits of inspire courage.
Have we lost a player before the game started?
It is quite possible to miss being recruited, happened to me before.
PM should solve this :)
Certainly not an auspicious start
It is starting to get a little worrying...
We are eager to spread the word of The People to the down trodden masses!
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
I'll be busy for a bit this week. I'll try to start it next week. And I will send a PM to the one who hasn't shown up yet.
Would you be able to give us a rough idea of where/how we begin? That way we could start roleplaying between ourselves and forming some bonds etc.
For example: Are we in an inn? Or summoned to a meeting somewhere?
Well, I can set up the scene where you have been summoned to a meeting with the Supreme Elect. You guys can start roleplaying there.
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Scene has been set up. Feel free to roleplay and interact with each other before Codwin I shows up.
The misfortune is hilarious, great job!
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Stitched me right up the pair of you
I think it's safe to say at this point that our 'ole pal Bennie, wasn't such a pal after all. :p
Revised skill list, since one person having disable device is a good idea:
Switching Savant (perform sing) for vagabond child, picking up a masterwork thieves tools while I am at it.
I dont actually have trapfinding though, and my perception isnt the best. Should still work though.
6 skills per level=30 Skill points.
Skill ranks + Attribute bonus + Class Skill + Misc
10 Background skill points
Perform Sing (used for Bluff and Sense motive)=5+3+3=11
Kn. History=1+0+3+2=6
Kn. Geography=1+0+3+2=6
Kn. Nobility=1+0+3+2=6
Kn. Engineering=1+0+3+2=6
Linguistics=1+3=4
30 SKill points for adventure skills
Acrobatics=3+5+3=11
Disguise=1+3+3=7
Stealth=5+5+3=13
Perception=5+3=8
Disable device=5+5+3+1+2=16
Diplomacy=1+3+3=7
Escape artist=1+5+3=9
Use Magic device=5+3+3=11
Kn. Planes=1+3+2=6
Kn. Religion=1+3+2=6
Kn. Arcane=1+3+2=6
Well, I will be postng my part soon.
Still looks like Good Ol Benny ain't joining us. Any chance we could vote on a replacement from the list? I kinda like:
Sebastian Iolaus/Vincenzo Coltellato, Male Human Vigilante.
I know Sebastian Iolaus/Vincenzo Coltellato's player from another game. they're a gem!
The guy keeps joinking all my spots! Just kidding he is fun.
*waves to the three players I know and salutes the two I don't*
I would obviously love to join you all. I can also alter any character details to better suit the party and campaign. Of course, if the GM has their eye on another player or is happy to proceed with 4, then I will step back.
Sorry for the lack of update. I'm currently working on a work-related stuff IRL, so I can't find the time to post my part. Hopefully you guys can wait for a bit before Mr. President can finally make his appearance.
A little bit of update. I'll try to post my stuff on Monday at the earliest. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Sounds fine. Any word on recruiting a replacement for Benny?