Lil" Eschie Warhammer Fantasy -Old World &New Dangers

Game Master Escharid Blackrose

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greetings

So I'm trying to play her helpful but still high elf superiority elf-ness. What I read is that they respect skill and craft skill of other races, but still see themselves as superior.

Hope I'm doing ok in that regard

May Sigmar bless the great day, and may the old alliance prevail again against the vile forces of Chaos.

I am not yet quite sure how to best play Carrot, but I am going for very polite, to a slightly off putting degree (in the fairly cynical warhammer world), but he actually believes what he says.

So I'm trying to play her helpful but still high elf superiority elf-ness. What I read is that they respect skill and craft skill of other races, but still see themselves as superior.

Hope I'm doing ok in that regard

For what its worth, I think you're doing great. :)

May Sigmar bless the great day, and may the old alliance prevail again against the vile forces of Chaos.

I am not yet quite sure how to best play Carrot, but I am going for very polite, to a slightly off putting degree (in the fairly cynical warhammer world), but he actually believes what he says.

I know the feeling. Often the voice of a character doesn't really come out until he is in use.

Hey Carrot. I almost laughed too loudly at this

reminds me of certain people

FYI, English is not my native tongue (I'm french) so there might be some grammar or spelling mistakes here and there.

My apologies in advance.

Same. I'm Afrikaans. English is my 2nd language too

My third, after German and Russian.

I am awkardly trying to learn French, and keep being amused by how little difference I feel between like...

In the absolutely wonderfull Clair Obscur Soundtrack, there are parts where I think I understand the vocalist, (and I actually do), and parts where I think I understand the vocalist (but I totally dont), and to my ear/mind there is no difference between these parts.

As a hobby linguist, that actually keeps delighting me.

I couldn’t tell for any of you.

I’m American, but wife is from China. My attempts at learning Chinese has left me with nothing but respect for people who actually succeed at a second language.

I did learn some chinese back when I was into martial arts, and actually went to a Sanda competition in Baoding.

It was pretty funny.

1: The average bloke from Northern China in Northern China (Baoding was like, an Anti-steppe raider garrison town) mostly drinks a lot, like to wrestle, and is nothing at all like the average chinese person in Germany (at that time who was typically a relatively shy IT student).

2: I was at that point introduced as "Sanda Champion of Berlin", to my considerably surprise, a lofty title which i won in a tournament in some school sports hall, which had exactly 1 competitor in my weightclass, and nobody participating was aware of it even being a championship.
Also, my bog standard 9 months of conscription in the German army got "upscaled" to professional German KSK soldier. Although I didnt understand enough Chinese to know what the hell they introduced me as.

My opponent was a pro, I am still amazed I didnt get knocked the hell out and only lost my a massive amount of points.

3: Looking back, the smart thing would have been to do the drinking contest (which I won) prior to the fight not after it.

4: Dont do drinking contests the same day as getting kicked in the liver.
The yellow eyes I got from that had my thinking hepatitis or something.

5: I did speak some broken Mandarin, and as long as you act like "friendly foreign grandpa" it was surprisingly effective, if mixed with some theatralic phantomime.

6: At an introduction, they played the (forbidden in Germany due to association with Nazi Germany) first stanza of the German national anthem. When the organizers beheld our rather horrified faces, they figured they made a mistake, so they switched it in for the anthem of the GDR, at which point we started to chuckle a bit.

This was 22 years ago though, and China certainly changed since then.

Same here, a non-native in English.
English would be my second or third language (depending whether you count proficiency or chronological order of learning), after Finnish and (perhaps) Swedish.

Question for GM

Would my character have the writ that's she's allowed to travel through human lands?

I did learn some chinese back when I was into martial arts, and actually went to a Sanda competition in Baoding.

It was pretty funny.

1: The average bloke from Northern China in Northern China (Baoding was like, an Anti-steppe raider garrison town) mostly drinks a lot, like to wrestle, and is nothing at all like the average chinese person in Germany (at that time who was typically a relatively shy IT student).

2: I was at that point introduced as "Sanda Champion of Berlin", to my considerably surprise, a lofty title which i won in a tournament in some school sports hall, which had exactly 1 competitor in my weightclass, and nobody participating was aware of it even being a championship.
Also, my bog standard 9 months of conscription in the German army got "upscaled" to professional German KSK soldier. Although I didnt understand enough Chinese to know what the hell they introduced me as.

My opponent was a pro, I am still amazed I didnt get knocked the hell out and only lost my a massive amount of points.

3: Looking back, the smart thing would have been to do the drinking contest (which I won) prior to the fight not after it.

4: Dont do drinking contests the same day as getting kicked in the liver.
The yellow eyes I got from that had my thinking hepatitis or something.

5: I did speak some broken Mandarin, and as long as you act like "friendly foreign grandpa" it was surprisingly effective, if mixed with some theatralic phantomime.

6: At an introduction, they played the (forbidden in Germany due to association with Nazi Germany) first stanza of the German national anthem. When the organizers beheld our rather horrified faces, they figured they made a mistake, so they switched it in for the anthem of the GDR, at which point we started to chuckle a bit.

This was 22 years ago though, and China certainly changed since then.

Have you been back to China since then? I've been going there on and off for about 15 years now. And every time I go, it is striking how much has changed. Comparing my wife's hometown from when I first went there to my last trip felt like going to a different place.

Also as an aside...as you are in the German Army Reserves? I did 6 years in USA Army National Guard (enlisted: field artillery). Volunteered for chance to go on winter training in Germany, sadly didn't get it. When contract was up, I applied to go active JAG and got in. While I ended up taking a different job instead, my first choice of duty station was Germany. I've never been, but its really high on my bucket list of place that I want to go.

Wait, your also artillery?

Haubitzen-Honk here haha, was one of the first units which has PzH2000s, lot of teething problems with this one, but if it works it works really well.

I had an old seargeant from the NVA (Nationale Volks Armee, East German army) whose opinion was like "Good thing we have these things now, the M109GA3 was a joke compared to earlier Warsaw pact models we had in East Germany."

I am pro forma reserve, but as a 9 month conscript I would have to actively sign up for training, which I didnt.

I am in touch with some friends I made in China, but havent been there myself since then. My little brother, who also does martial arts, is there regularly and is like "yeah, they are leaving us in the dust".

I was told they still drink a lot though, in the north at least.

@Hans Gruber

I can, if I am really drunk, somewhat get swedish, and like Sabaton lyrics I can understand reasonably well, but normal spoken swedish? Nah.

If I knew the system better, I'd also would have explored the light and dark side of the high elves. But it looked a bit too complicated for a newbie :P

Hi

Hello and welcome

Sorry had a long week and week end. Ill post when I get home!!!

Wait, your also artillery?

Haubitzen-Honk here haha, was one of the first units which has PzH2000s, lot of teething problems with this one, but if it works it works really well.

I had an old seargeant from the NVA (Nationale Volks Armee, East German army) whose opinion was like "Good thing we have these things now, the M109GA3 was a joke compared to earlier Warsaw pact models we had in East Germany."

I am pro forma reserve, but as a 9 month conscript I would have to actively sign up for training, which I didnt.

I am in touch with some friends I made in China, but havent been there myself since then. My little brother, who also does martial arts, is there regularly and is like "yeah, they are leaving us in the dust".

I was told they still drink a lot though, in the north at least.

@Hans Gruber

I can, if I am really drunk, somewhat get swedish, and like Sabaton lyrics I can understand reasonably well, but normal spoken swedish? Nah.

Fellow artillery man? We are officially friends. :)

Closest I can get to this discussion is to mention my dad was in artillery

I can, if I am really drunk, somewhat get swedish, and like Sabaton lyrics I can understand reasonably well, but normal spoken swedish? Nah.

Coincidentally, my Swedish also gets better when I'm drunk :) Otherwise it's pretty poor (can read pretty ok, or have a basic understanding of the topic people are talking about. )

BTW, @GM: the map link doesn't work.

I'll check the map link, thanks for the information!

@GM

About my previous question, does she have the writ to be able to travel around?

and i have a second question

Without it being a proper heavy blade, can her trapping weapon be a 2 handed? just wondering if its not possible, thats fine too

I forget how SL works

Trying to help out, I may be wrong

Success level is every 10 you are over or below the number.

So the target is 65, you roll 64, you have +0, so it's a success but have 0 bonus levels

Same target, 65, you roll 84, it's -1 SL as you failed by more that 10 but less than 20.

Hope that helps

When rolling, do not add a + to the roll. As that directly influences the d100. Instead add or subtract from your total. Example

We need to roll stealth with a +10. Your normal stealth is 34, with a +10 you will roll on a 44. So just put the 44 and then roll a straight 1d100.

Again. Hope I was clear enough. It's a bit harder to explain via text

Also, GM, I'd love to have a ruling on the grudges when you get a chance to think it over. :)

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Success Levels (copied from core rulebook)
Success Levels (shortened to SL) are used to describe the effectiveness of a Test. To determine the SL of a Test, subtract the 10s number of the rolled dice from the 10s number of the Characteristic or Skill being tested, including any modifiers (see Difficulty for more on modifiers). The higher the SL, the better the outcome; the lower it is, the worse things have gone. Marginal results, where you succeed or fail a Test with +0 or –0 SL, could either be interpreted as succeeding or failing by a whisker, with minimal consequences either good or bad, or could give inconclusive results allowing you try again.

Example: Eichengard is careering across muddy fields atop his stallion, desperately fleeing the lands of a disgruntled noble when a wall blocks his passage. He decides to push his mount to jump, and the GM calls for a Dramatic Ride (Horse) test. Eichengard rolls 29 against his Ride (Horse) skill of 41. The 10s number of he Skill being tested is 4, and the 10s number rolled was 2, so the test succeeds with +2 SL (4–2=2) and he clears the wall with space to spare. Buoyed by his success, Eichengard twists around in his saddle and makes the sign of the twin-tailed comet at the horsemen pursuing him. Unfortunately, this means he’s not paying attention to where he’s going. The GM calls for a Dramatic Perception Test, and Eichengard’s player rolls 82, significantly higher than Eichengard’s Perception skill of 39. The 10s number of the roll is 8, and the 10s number of the skill being tested is 3, so the test has failed with –5 SL (3–8=–5). He has failed rather badly. As Eichengard laughs at the increasingly distant guards sent to capture him, a low-lying branch slams hard into his side, knocking him flying.

I can't help it of the dice give me ammunition :P

@Lina: yes, you would have a writ to travel. Starting weapons are (mostly!) one handed, as 2H weapons is a separate Melee skill in which you need to spend points. Besides, they cost more.

@Kardin: unfortunatly, I don't have the dwarf's special handbook. But I'm fine with grudges as described.

@All: yeah, SL can be a little tricky to understand. You need to either succeed better than your opponent or at least to fail less.

You should all have at least a dagger (+2 bonus to damage) or for Warrior class an hand weapon (+4 bonus to damage).

For combat, you add your SL, your Strenght Bonus (SB) and the damage bonus of the weapon (usually +4), and your opponent subtract his own SL, his Endurance bonus and his armor
Exemple: you managed to do +1 SL while attacking, you have 35 Strenght so 3 SB, and you have a sword, total 1+3+4=8. Your opponent get+0 SL, has 41 endurance so 4 End bonus, and wear no armor so 0+4+0=4.
Difference o 8-4=4 his substracted from opponent's Wounds

Important point about SLs, is that you only compared the 10-digits of the dice and skill.
If your skill is 41, it doesn't matter if you roll 30 or 39 - both are 1 SL.

Also, I just learned that if a talent is tied to a skill, you get +1 SL per level of talent on successful test.

And Dodge is an option right?

Dodge is a basic skill linked to Agility (meaning you have at least your characteristic score in the skill) , and you can use it against weapons (instead of parry) or a trap

@GM: Thank you vis-a-vi grudges. :)

For SL...I think it works like this.

Dodge 46
Roll 47? Failed. Because 46 is your skill level.
Roll 46? Passed. SL 0 (4-4)
Roll 40? Passed. SL 0 (4-4)
Roll 39? Passed. SL 1 (4-3)
Roll 30? Passed. SL 1 (4-3)

The 1's digit helps you pass tests. A 49 is better than a 40 because it is +9% chance to pass. However, it doesn't help with SL. That is only the 10s digit.

Many thanks for choosing all of us.
Been hammered by RL this week, I'll try to get my priest built up asap.

Many thanks for choosing all of us.

Been hammered by RL this week, I'll try to get my priest built up asap.

woohooo!

i now have the urge to play Total War: Warhammer 3 again

i now have the urge to play Total War: Warhammer 3 again

Heh, same here. But, damn the Empire campaigns are hard.

I'll check on everyone ambitions, at least the short term ones.

Hope you'll have access to the image, tell me if you can't open it.

My favorite campaign is Boris Ursus.

I love playing as Thorgrim Grudgebearer. :)

Though in the Old World mod, Belegar is such a joy. A real fight for Karak Eight Peaks

Rats... And then dinosaurs

Carrots player here:

For Sharing maps, what I do on games I am Dming is this:

1: I open a google draw document and put the map in there.

2: I put the enemy/npc art on somewhat bigger pictures, so that people can actually see the artwork.

3: I think hit *Share*, save the map name, and you need to click both the "anyone who has the link" button and then set the other drop down on "coauthor", so that others can actually move their characters on the map.

4: The Syntax on Paizo for sharing this is [url'=actuallinkgoeshere]Samplemap[/'url]
or
[url'=https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1oNy6ec86AX0VhwgOYsff6ptp-2WTvmSVPaw9mf_5Cvk/edit]Sample map[/'url]
without the "'" I used to make the link fully visibile, it would then be
Sample map

The resulting link can also be put into either your DM profile, like for example with my GM account, or in the campaign info thing.

Notes, this is obviously not perfect, its quite easy for a player to accidently move the underlying map (and thus mess things up), rather then his characters, and there are also some other possible misclicks, but it is less setup then running a roll20 or foundry instance, and it works reasonably well most of the time.

@Spazmodeus: is your character ready soon?

I'll try to get it done tonight or tomorrow

Trappings:you have at the beginning of the game your class trappings (Academics, Rogue, Warrior and so on..) AND your career (Guard, Engineer, Entertainer...) trappings.

Academics: Clothing, Dagger, Pouch, Sling Bag containing
Writing Kit and 1d10 sheets of Parchment

Burghers: Cloak, Clothing, Dagger, Hat, Pouch, Sling Bag
containing Lunch

Courtiers: Dagger, Fine Clothing, Pouch containing Tweezers,
Ear Pick, and a Comb

Peasants: Cloak, Clothing, Dagger, Pouch, Sling Bag containing
Rations (1 day)

Rangers: Cloak, Clothing, Dagger, Pouch, Backpack containing
Tinderbox, Blanket, Rations (1 day)

Riverfolk: Cloak, Clothing, Dagger, Pouch, Sling Bag
containing a Flask of Spirits

Rogues: Clothing, Dagger, Pouch, Sling Bag containing 2
Candles, 1d10 Matches, a Hood or Mask

Warriors: Clothing, Hand Weapon, Dagger, Pouch

So Carrot starts with Warrior trappings (a one hand weapon, daer and pouch) no armor, and Guard trappin ( Buckler, Leather Jerkin, Storm Lantern with Oil)- he gets 1 armor point on Body,and his buckler gives him+1 SL on his Defense rolls

BUT: when you advance in your career, you must BUY your new trappings

Carot, I saw that your character sheet is mostly not filled out. There are some things that you need to choose on...

Talents
* You need to choose one of the following
* Diceman (if you pass a gamble check, use SL or 1s digit for SL. For example, if gamble is 30 and you roll a 29, you can have SL 1 as 3-2=1, or you can have SL9), Etiquette (Servants), Strike to Stun (all improvised weapons have pummel quality and you ignore penalties for aiming for the head when have pummel quality), Tenacious (double length of time endurance lets you endure hardship)
* Savvy (+5 Int) or Suave (+5 Fel)

Skills
* You chose your racial skills (3x at +5, 3x at +3)
* However, you have 40 skill points to spend altogether on top of that. Max of +10 in any one skill. This is the list you can choose from based on your career
* Consume Alcohol, Endurance, Entertain (Storytelling), Gamble, Gossip, Intuition, Melee (Basic), Perception (you need at least 5 in each to advance to the next tier in your career)
* You started with +5 melee basic. From the 40 skill points you can spend another 5 to push it up to +10.

Experience
* You chose your race and class, so you get 0xp for that. GM might allow 25xp as you chose human...and if you roll the chances of getting that are really, really high.
* You rolled for stats and kept the stats as they were. You get 50xp for that
* This can get you +2 to WS, T, or Agi. It can be spent on skills. Or saved up.

Trappings
* Being a warrior gives you this: Clothing, Hand Weapon, Dagger, Pouch
* Being a guard gives you this: Buckler, Leather Jerkin, Storm Lantern with Oil

Armor
* Leather Jerkin: 1 armor body (can spend 2 silver to upgrade to leather jack, which gives armor to body and arms)
* Buckler: 1 armor all (and defensive!)

Money
* You start off with 1d10 silver
* A halberd costs 2 gold (SB+4, Defensive, Hack, Impale, long reach) [polearm, not melee basic]
* A spear costs 15 silver (SB +4, Impale, very long reach) [polearm, not melee basic]
- I'd save up for the halberd. They are *amazing*
- Reach: If your reach is longer than the foe they have -10 to hit you
- Defensive: If you are wielding such a weapon, gain a bonus of +1 SL to any Melee Test when you oppose an incoming attack.
- Hack: If you hit an opponent, you Damage a struck piece of armour or shield by 1 point as well as wounding the target.
- Impale: Impale weapons can kill with a single clean blow. Impale weapons cause a Critical Hit on any number divisible by 10 (i.e.: 10, 20, 30, etc.) as well as on doubles (i.e.: 11, 22, 33)

- In my humble opinion, halberds are one of the best weapons possible. Offensively, extra critical hits is huge. It doubles your chance! It is good vs armor, and it also helps defend you. Spears are a lot cheaper and are longer...but the defensive quality alone is amazing.
- Otherwise? If you choose strike to stun then a pummel weapon is a good choice. Because you can force endurance tests to stun enemies each round.

Fate and Resilience
* You have 3 extra points that you can place as you wish. Fate (don't die) and fortune (reroll) share the same number. Resilience (ignore bad effect) is the other option.

I'm more than happy to answer any questions or to help fill the above out.

Also note: I am sure that I get things wrong. If anyone sees any errors in my character sheet or the like, please tell me. For example, I realized that I had gotten my trappings wrong and have fixed it. Glad I caught it before any combat started.

That was very helpfull, thanks!