GM TOP #3-03: The Ghenett Manor Gauntlet (Core) (Inactive)

Game Master Pete H.

Discussion stuff here. I have players fill their info into the Slides for the game, so no need to add it here. You are welcome to make dayjob rolls here or in gameplay during your introductions. You can also wait till the end of the session to make them. Go ahead and fill out pages 1 and 2 on the slides.

I tend to prefer in game questions to just use the OOC tags in the gameplay thread so everything is kept in the same place, unless it becomes a major distraction and then we'll switch over to here.

You all are welcome to use this for non-game related discourse or general chat!

Once you have filled out your details on the slides, please head over to gameplay and make a post!

Dot

The character this chronicle will be going to will be using another form of downtime. He will be making a Loyalty check on the Rebellion Leader chronicle sheet: Earn a title, Loyalty DC 5: 1d10 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3 Failed!

Ouch on that roll!

I've been really cooking on responses, but we are about to begin a weekend so my posts will likely drag to a halt until Monday. Weekends (and Holidays) are quite busy for me. Just giving a fair warning.

I don't have posting 'requirements' per se, but the more you post the faster things tend to go. I'll also bot anyone who hasn't posted for 24 hrs (weekdays only), if they are the only one(s) needing to act in initiative.

Doodle here. Thanks for running the game for us, GM!

Day job: Craft Alchemy 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17

By the way, I’m a phone only poster, so could I please get someone to post Doodle’s image in the second spot on the slide? Thanks a ton.

Oh yes, day job
oratory: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (19) + 12 = 31

For my free items, I'm currently thinking of three scrolls
Cure light wounds (25gp)
knock (150gp)
cure serious wounds (525gp)

Any suggestions for changes?

CSW is actually only 375g. You get to/have to pay for the cleric version.

I just cna't do basic math today. 3*5*25 = 375. Hurrah. I could upgrade the CLW scroll to CMW. Thanks for pointing this out.

@Team, how are we for things like trap detection? Find traps would be good for some, but Short Sighted as he is (perception -2) its not going to help an awful lot and is a personal range spell.

Any other suggestions for good spells to stock up on?

Um, Kyra, you rolled a d10 instead of a d20, you might want to reroll that, unless it tells you to roll a d10.

Dispel magic is always handy. It will take care of magical traps.

Just catching up here.

Day job Craft:Bow: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (11) + 5 = 16

Information and Token have been added to the slides.

I will need your character info on the slides by the end of the session, Doublegold. It also appears your sorcerer pregen is going to be leading the group into trouble, so that'll work great probably.

Unless someone else wishes to go first?

Also, by my calculation (APL = 6.833 rounded to 7) the party is between tiers and this is a season 3 session and we have 6 so I believe we have to play the higher tier 8-9.

Let me know if I'm doing the calculation wrong or missed something or if the level 5 or 6 pc wish to change out to something else.

I may just play the level 7 bard pregen in place of Ahmande. Let me review the stats and see if that makes sense.

If I did that, I'd get a Tier 8-9 chronicle that Ahmande wouldn't "get" until he was level 8, is that correct?

Also, GM TOP, for some reason Ahmande isn't showing up in the character list for this game, and none of my posts are "taking" as activating him as a player. My GM profile (GM Zin) is there instead. Can you remove GM Zin from this game and maybe Ahmande will "take" after that profile is gone?

The guide says:

Applying Credit: You may apply credit for an adventure once your Roleplaying Guild character reaches the level of the pregenerated character used to play through it. For example, if you played a 7th-level pregenerated character, you would apply the credit once your character reaches 7th level.

You would get an out of tier chronicle that you could apply once Ahmande hits 7. I removed the GM ZIN poster, hopefully Ahamande clicks in now.

You could also play one of the other pregens if you wanted, considering we have another bard in the group already. But that is completely up to you.

I put Talevia in the back since she is an archer but I can have her take point.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on how to approach this?

Anyone have a better diplomacy than Doodle’s +10? We could try to talk our way in. Does anyone have a good Bluff score?

Other thoughts than a diplomatic type of tact here?

I have a +12 to diplomacy with versatile performance and my oratory skill.

Bluf... hahahahha

I think a polite approach first is the best one, then later on we can try grappling hooks and drills. But lets not make things harder than they have to be.

Also, GM TOP, for some reason Ahmande isn't showing up in the character list for this game, and none of my posts are "taking" as activating him as a player. My GM profile (GM Zin) is there instead. Can you remove GM Zin from this game and maybe Ahmande will "take" after that profile is gone?

Hmmm, that fixed part of it; he now shows up under Characters. But this game still isn't showing up on the My Campaigns page for me. As such, I'm not seeing updates. If I'm not responding when I'm needed, GM, feel free to send me a PM to nudge me. I may have forgot to come check this game.

I might have gotten it fixed, check now.

Ahmandé:

--> When you have a campaign without a Gameplay thread it essentially deactivates campaign tools for all of your campaigns... (I had one that was still in the Recruitment stage only, with no associated Gameplay page, and that happened to me)

Fix: make sure all your campaigns have a Gameplay thread by requesting your GM(s) to start one.

I may just play the level 7 bard pregen in place of Ahmande. Let me review the stats and see if that makes sense.

If I did that, I'd get a Tier 8-9 chronicle that Ahmande wouldn't "get" until he was level 8, is that correct?

Also, let me know what you decided to do with your character before we get into any super important scenario specific rolling.

Whatever you did worked!

Ahmandé wrote:

I may just play the level 7 bard pregen in place of Ahmande. Let me review the stats and see if that makes sense.

If I did that, I'd get a Tier 8-9 chronicle that Ahmande wouldn't "get" until he was level 8, is that correct?

Also, let me know what you decided to do with your character before we get into any super important scenario specific rolling.

I think I will play a pregen. It looks like a rogue would fit into this party well; I'll play Merisiel. It might take me a bit to get a profile online. For ease of play, I may just re-skin her as Ahmande for this run, and throw her stats up under a spoiler at the top of Ahmande's profile for the time being.

If this standard or core? If it's standard PFS, it is my duty to inform Ahmandé that Merisiel is the most underwhelming (read: power challenged) character of the entire list. :P

In other words, if you pick Merisiel, you're picking Pathfinder's 'HARD MODE'

:)

Core.
That said, in a trap situation, which this appears to be, Merisiel may be the most helpful pregen.

True! forgot about this!

Forget what I said. :)

Just FYI, I'm leaving for a week-long vacation out of country during which I won't be able to post. I'll be gone from Friday to Friday, 3-10 Dec. I should have time tonight to give my games one last look tonight before bed, but I'll be incommunicado after. Please feel free to bot me after that as needed!

Cool. I assume you'll be doing some trap-searching as the group progresses through the manor. Could you set up a prefered SOP for that action so I don't have to guess? Mainly just want to know how much time you will be searching stuff for traps. Otherwise I can just stick with a flat take 10 everywhere if you wish. Thanks!

Let's get some input from the group on that. Ahmande (Merisiel)'s Take 10 with Perception for traps is 26. His (her) Take 10 with Disable Device for traps is 30. Are we comfortable with those numbers?

Yes, very.

I think they sound good.

Works for me!

Sounds good to me.

I can’t see fighting seven golems with our group. There has to be a way around this.

Please let there be a way around this, lol.

Yeah, this is a party of casters and golems are immune to most magic. Luckily I hasted you all, so we could book it. I also have invisibility spell to try to sneak past them.

Even a single flesh golem is pretty nasty, seven of them is totally over the top. Lets see if they follow us into our initial room. Maybe we can kite them with the haste, have them follow us and then sprint past them?

@GM: sorry about metagaming; was using the OOC tags but I guess I could have used Discussion thread instead?

@Others: I guess I didn't realize we didn't have a front liner when I signed up for this, otherwise I may have taken Valeros instead. Is the paladin planning to be up front in this mod? a cleric can help/assist a tank, but to be the front line with a medium armor and weak melee capability is a disaster in the making...

@Khellek: yes, one flesh golem is bad news... three of them is extremely bad news. Perhaps the sorcerers could lob a fireball now that they're nicely grouped together? that would slow them, which means no attack if they have to move right?

I... don't think you should take that risk. I doubt scenarios have golems with this kind of AI built into them...

It's not particularly an issue of using OOC tags or being in the discussion thread. But specifically suggesting a player change their logical tactics based upon an assumption about how the scenarios are usually written is, in my mind, a clear example of metagaming.

Beyond that specific comment, I haven't seen any issues as the rest of the planning is based upon known information, so carry on. I'm enjoying how you all are reacting and planning things, we'll see how things go next.

Yeah I was just trying to protect Doodle here, as I highly doubt a scenario will have a condition to shut down the golems in a non-hostile way. It would be awesome, mind you (like, "Speak Friend, and Enter" type LotR get past the encounter thing) but sadly my 10+ years experience playing PFS has me more on the cautious side than the 'child full of wonder' side. I hope to be pleasantly surprised though: if there is a way to bypass this without fighting, I truly hope we can find it, as we don't have a melee protector here.

...and yes, in-character Kyra should have yelled "GET BACK!" :)

GM, looking at the map, it looks like I am within 10’ of blue golem who appears to have at least a 10’ reach. If so, it did not try to attack me even though it moved to me and seemingly could.

Am I right in my reading of the map?

That is correct Doodle.

Welp, guess my question doesn’t matter now that a fireball has went off, lol.

I think he may have missed my post about them being immune to magic.
That said, if he saw it and cast anyway - then I guess the meal will be Well Done.

Can I point out that Khellek has said they are immune to magic. You might want to revise your action in light of that - its easy to miss some of the details in a flurry of posts.

Golems are weird. They're immune to magic, except for the spells that have an effect on them. You'll have fun surfing the boards on the subject. Probably a whole rainy day's worth! ;)

Hi all, I'm back and catching up. Post-vacay recovery took longer than expected; my ear is still plugged from the flight for some reason, so my whole being is a little bit off. I haven't popped into Gameplay yet, just here to let you know that that will happen at some point today. Thanks for your patience!

Should we try to head outside and get on the roof and pepper the thing from range so we don’t have to close to melee with it? From what Khellek recalled, it sounded pretty tough.

Merisiel has no ranged attacks of any sort; she only has her +1 keen rapier. With heroism and a flanker, though, she's going to be quite the damage dealer. (Assuming the chaos beast isn't immune to precision damage, which could easily be the case. Is that something Khellek learned?)

It is immune to precision damage. Khellek did learn that.

In that case, Ahmande isn't going to be much help at all.