
| Tiny Coffee Golem | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:I think I will submit a character. Tiefilng per the roll Staff magus/ TBD.
I want to make him a teleporter and the easiest way to do that is to be a conjuration (teleport) wizard, but I've made a lot of those. I'm also thinking monk for the sheer coolness factor. More likely probably only a level or two of monk then fighter or ranger for the rest.
So I'd like to crowdsource a bit. Which do you all think would be the most fun/best mechanically and why.
1) Staff magus 5/ Teleport wizard - very Nightcrawler-esque
2) Staff magus 5/ Monk 5 - Probably the monk type that lets you change out abilities for other powers. the name escapes me at the moment.
3) Staff magus 5/ Monk 2 + Fighter 3
will he sing this? (Nightcrawler is blue, right?)
Can't watch Youtube at work, but yes Nightcrawler is blue. However, I was going to go with a different color scheme. ;-)

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            89 is aasimar, 42 is half-elf, And roll from me 1d100 ⇒ 85, which is orc
reroll for Inconvenience:1d100 ⇒ 88, which is Aasimar
Hmmm random numbers my butt 1d100 ⇒ 8 Thats a lot of 8's
@TCG: I want you to go staff magus/monk for a couple reasons. It works for a part of the story I'm trying to work in. Also multiclassing one side of a gestalt gets messy trying to figure out saves, finally, you really have made too many teleport wizards he he.
@"them" - your stats look a bit off, it should be +2 dex, -2 con, +2 Int. your have it set up as +2 dex, +2 int, +2 cha. I haven't gotten much past that I was just looking around at everybody and noticed that.

| Tiny Coffee Golem | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            @TCG: I want you to go staff magus/monk for a couple reasons. It works for a part of the story I'm trying to work in. Also multiclassing one side of a gestalt gets messy trying to figure out saves, finally, you really have made too many teleport wizards he he.
Roger that. WIll work on him (maybe her) tomorrow at work.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Ok guys here is my latest list.
Finishing:
Jman72 26 - Half-Dragon  AKA:Nicolae Vintila Antipaladin/Bard
pavaan 10 - Half-orc / 44 - Half-Elf  AKA:Tronath Colastar Alchemist/Barbarian
Spugly Fuglet 73 - Tengu / 19 - Elf  AKA:"Them" Psion/Wizard
Jelani 83 - Catfolk  AKA:Merran Spy/Sorcerer
Reckless 73 - Tengu / 37 - Halfling AKA Shrie Trill Martial Artist/Shadow Assasin
WolfMan1911 92 - Vanara AKA Enisald the Butcher Druid/Monk
BoJengo 91 Aasimar / 41 - Half-elf AKA Dardlara Zordlon Antipaladin/Vitalist
Cuan - 45 - Half-Elf / 77 - Maenad / 72-Tengu AKA Akiz Mairan Alchemist/Cavalier
Stiehl9s 10 - Half-Orc AKA Sicsivicus Unbreakable Fighter/Oracle of Bones
Joriandrake 13 - Half-Orc / 62 - Dwarf / 27 -  Human AKA Laanrah Mighty/Adept Godling
Buidling:
Inconvenience 96 - Gripili / 73 - Tengu / 88 - Aasimar AKA ? Anit-Paladin/Sorcerer
TCG 4 - Blue / 69 - Tiefling AKA ? Staff Magus/Monk
Not Sure:
LastNameOnEarth 89 - Aasimar / 42 - Half-Elf / 85 - Orc
Jarred Henninger 4 - Blue / 50 - Gnome
Sverinn Nistarc 81 - Catfolk / 73 - Tengu
Black Thom 45 - Half Elf
jtfoto 46 - Half-Elf
Azten 87 - Orc
Aroach1188 87 - Orc / 9 - Half-Orc
GM Kyle 80 - Maenad / 75 - Tengu
Sigz 99 - Gripili / 2 - Blue
I will be closing recruitment on Friday at 11PM EST. I will decide by 6PM Saturday who is playing and I would like to get rolling on game play right away. I will be free all day Sunday, so It will be good to get you introduced.
I have been thinking about running two groups. Some of the characters are fitting quite well into a new sche....um story I've been thinking on. I really like some of the other character's that don't fit this theme however. You would be able to each shape the world and see each others efforts, though I would keep you separate for the introduction. You would have to find each other by mistake, since I'm sure you all will be keeping on the "down low"
Also I made a discussion thread. Everyone with Completed Characters, please post once over there, either with your profiles, or with a link to them, or the relevant data. For now let's keep discussion in this thread though. Thanks Peoples.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            @ Merrin - Your sheet looks good, however you bought wands at half price and they are still full price. It shouldn't be a problem for level 1 wands but the scorching ray is going to be a big hit so you may want to drop it and grab something else.
@Tronath - Looks good as well, though I think your bite attack should be +10 1d8+9. It looks like you accidentally put the furious enchantment on there even though that's meant to be your attack when just mutagened.
"* Bite +12 1d8+11 (mutagen) same as claw when rage+mutagen going on.
* Claw 4 +14 1d8+15(rage +mutagen)"
@ wolf man - I believe your flurry should be +5/+5 (+2 str, +5 BAB when flurry, -2 TWF), on that same not don't you use your monk level for CMB making that +7. Otherwise it seems good.
@ "them" - it looks like your stats are still messed up. 
Str 10 +0
Dex 16 +3 (+2 Race +4 Spend 5p)
Con 10 +0 (+2 Spend 2p)
Int 22 +6 (+2 Race +2 Head Band) + 8Spend 17p)
Wis 13 +1 (+3 Spend 3p)
Cha 15 +2 (+2 Race +3 Spend 3p
Should Be
Str 10 +0
Dex 16 +3 (+2 Race +4 Spend 5p)
Con 10 +0 (-2 Race +2 Spend 2p)
Int 22 +6 (+2 Race +2 Head Band) + 8Spend 17p)
Wis 13 +1 (+3 Spend 3p)
Cha 13 +1 (+3 Spend 3p)
You still need to spend your +1 for hitting level 4 as well.
Also the mithril shirt is normal price as to make it would take a long time so that should be 1100, You sure you want the 10% arcanse apell failure? Actually there are a couple things that are too cheap.
MW Dagger 75gp
Mithral Shirt 550gp
Wand of CLW 375gp
Wand of Detect Magic 162gp
Wand of Mending 162gp
50 foot silk rope. 0g
Should be:
MW Dagger 302gp
Mithral Shirt 1100gp
Wand of CLW 750gp
Wand of Detect Magic 375gp
Wand of Mending 375gp 
50 foot silk rope. 10g
Other than that it looks good.

| wolfman1911 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Well, glad to hear that the stuff, I got wrong was low balled. I knew the flurry attack bonus was wrong, but I couldn't figure out why they were giving me to hit modifiers for flurry if it just said to use your monk level as in place of BAB. I'll figure out equipment overnight. Is there any limits on what we can ask for, aside from monetary costs?

| "Them" | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Final
They should be
Str 10 +0
Dex 16 +3 (+2 Race +4 Spend 5p)
Con 10 +0 (-2 Race +2 Spend 2p)
Int 22 +6 (+2 Race +7 Spend 13p +1Level +2Head Band )
Wis 13 +1 (+3 Spend 3p)
Cha 15 +2 (+5 Spend 5p)
It works if I use  +1 for hitting level 4 to save cut down spend on int.
Its was the missing +1 and to high spend that I got wrong not the Stats GM 

| Gideon Samus Shaw | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            This is TCG.
I've got most of Gideon worked out. Feel free to look it over and let me know if there's any RP you'd like me to help with. You said Magus/monk was somehow fitting for what you had in mind. I'll help with that however I can.
FYI: This character is kinda badass. With the notable exception of the MAD-ness the two classes mesh really well.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Gideon, it looks good. Only thing I could find is that your CMD is too low. You get to add your monk bonus as well as dodge, deflection, sacred and some others to your CMD. Also you forgot the extra +1 monk ac bonus you get for being a higher level. So +1 to AC and +6 to CMD.
Nothing you can do to help with RP just be ready when you are awakened to take in what is there and in front of you. It will be a good time to get acquainted with the world. That really goes for everyone.

| Tiny Coffee Golem | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Gideon, it looks good. Only thing I could find is that your CMD is too low. You get to add your monk bonus as well as dodge, deflection, sacred and some others to your CMD. Also you forgot the extra +1 monk ac bonus you get for being a higher level. So +1 to AC and +6 to CMD.
Nothing you can do to help with RP just be ready when you are awakened to take in what is there and in front of you. It will be a good time to get acquainted with the world. That really goes for everyone.
Thanks I'll fix that.

| Inconvenience | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Here is the HP roll for Jarvan Spiteborn, suddenly an aasimar known as "Chastity Brightsmile"
4d10 ⇒ (4, 9, 9, 4) = 26
Also, one quick question. Will the 3.5 armor enchantment "Twilight" be available? (-15% Arcane spell failure for a cost of +1) This will be my only mention of 3.5 outside of the approved books. I'm only asking so I know if I will need to take the Arcane Armor feat line or not.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Hey guys, do you know how to undo this mess up I made. I created a gameplay thread as a test to see if I could link two gameplay threads to the same campaign. It looked like I couldn't so I deleted the first post of the gameplay thread. Now it won't let me unlink it, or create a new one It's just blank. I can't even add a new post. I'm probably just going to hit up the webmaster.

| Gideon Samus Shaw | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Gideon, you can buy scrolls just as normal. It doesn't take long to transfer them over right? I honestly don't remember.
That would work, but it'd be cheaper and easier to just copy them from someone's spell book or to decode someone else's spell book.
In other words they could give me a spell book then I could learn to use it fairly easy until I prepared my own.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Good point. Your spellbook has all 0th 20 - 1st level, 10 - 2nd level, and 3 - 3rd level Magus spells. To reach that many you will have to be basically writing and studying while everybodies stuff is being crafted. As far as your wish list, you don't need permission for it if it's on d20pfsrd unless it's like crazy stuff. Just make sure it's in your budget. Looks like if you knock your staff down to +1 you'll be able to get it all.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Akiz. Your spell section is hard to understand. It looks like you put extracts known under extracts prepared. Also as you can learn from Wizards spellbooks you can follow the same as Gideon. assuming you don't have anything you want to do while stings are being made for you.
Same goes for everyone with a spellbook. Free 20 1st level, 10 2nd level, and 3 3rd level spells though it will take up quite a lot of your initial downtime if you were in the mood to do any other research.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Alright guys, just a reminder, recruitment is closing late tonight 11PM EST. Those of you who have not posted in the discussion thread please go and check in with a single post for my benefit. Thank You.
Of those with completed characters I know of I still need to hear from
Joriandrake 13 - Half-Orc / 62 - Dwarf / 27 - Human AKA Laanrah Mighty/Adept Godling
Inconvenience Aasimar AKA Jarvan Spiteborn Anit-Paladin/Sorcerer
Jman72 26 - Half-Dragon AKA:Nicolae Vintila Antipaladin/Bard
BoJengo 91 Aasimar / 41 - Half-elf AKA Dardlara Zordlon Antipaladin/Vitalist
Reckless 73 - Tengu / 37 - Halfling AKA Shrie Trill Martial Artist/Shadow Assasin

| Akiz Mairan | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Hey Akiz, there is another bird avatar under Rakshasa I found as well. I don't know if it's any good for you?
Just looked it up. Sadly it's an eagle. I think I'll stick with the symbolism of a crow/racen and their association with death(crow), battlefields(raven) and trickery(both). Thanks for looking though.
As far as sheet goes: Fixed the cost and production issue and purchased the essentials when it comes to mundane gear (clothing, alchemist's kit and arrows) no idea what else I'll need when it comes to other mundane gear.

| Gideon Samus Shaw | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            here's my gear wish list breakdown.
Q staff +1 (2k-creation 4days)
Darksire amulet (4500-creation 9 days) - +5 resists for tieflings, +4 diplomacy evil outsiders + flavorful
Ring sustenance (2500)
Hat of disguise (900-creation 2days)
Pathfinder pouch (500-creation 1day) - for hiding/protecting spell book
10,400 total
Extra -100g pocket money

| Gideon Samus Shaw | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            ** spoiler omitted **
I made some edits. I don't need a +1 staff. I can do that myself for short periods of time if needed. I'd like to spend that money elsewhere.
here's my gear wish list breakdown.
Darksire amulet (4500-creation 9 days) - +5 resists for tieflings, +4 diplomacy evil outsiders + flavorful 
Ring sustenance (2500) 
Hat of disguise (900-creation 2days) 
Handy Haversac (1000-Creation 2 days)
Wand of infernal healing (750)
Arcane locked MW manacles (75GP)  - Arcane locked by me via loaned Ring of spell storing 
Extra -775g pocket money
Plus a bunch of mundane crap that I haven't calculated yet. I'll overestimate and take out a chunk of change before game starts.
This isn't magic, but if possible I would like an Adamantine Staff (it's auto Masterwork).  The cost per the book is 3000 gp.
If that's half price I'd give up hat of disguise +450 GP.
If it's not half price I'd give up The Ring of sustenance +500 GP. 

| Inconvenience | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            I'm not trying to be a troublemaker (at least not ooc) but I have another idea that will require GM approval. You said that we have talented smiths and casters working for our patron. Would I be able to purchase a scroll of fabricate for 1125gp (full price), as well as 1400gp in mithril (1/3 the total cost of a mithril breastplate) and gift the scroll to the crafters so I don't have to wait over a year to get armor? I'm not trying to break your system, just trying to make casting in armor manageable.
Another separate unrelated question. If I were to take the spirit side of fiendish boon, could I translate the bonus to weapon enchantments in the BoVD? I would love to spontaneously grant my sword the Fleshgrinding property so I can cast a spell or two.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Armor is going to be expensive if you want the good stuff. Maybe for now just go with light. You can make a chain shirt with a high enough enhantment to match a brestplate of equal cost almost.
Ill have to look at the bovd enhantments. Some or all will definitely be added to the antipaladin and magus lists.

| Inconvenience | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            I'm not sure I understand your reply. Is that a no to use of the fabricate spell to expedite crafting time? Because a base chain shirt would bring my ASF to 10% (with the expenditure of my every swift action) which is a bit out of my comfort zone. A mithril chain shirt would be 0% but without the use of fabricate it would take up to 57 weeks to create depending on crafter skill. If the chain shirt was made with the same previously mentioned scroll, the expenditure would be greater than the base item. 1100 vs 1491.7 (1125 scroll + 366.7 materials)

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            If you buy an already made chain shirt and then get it enchanted then you dont have to worry about fabricate. Your basically taking items from your patron. They are outfiting you. They have base armor and shields and weapons that you tell them to enchant. So the answer is no for the fabricate scroll.

| Inconvenience | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            @ Akiz - Weapons cost normal price for material. These things will literally be made for you and an adamatine sword can take a year or so to make.
They have base armor and shields and weapons that you tell them to enchant. So the answer is no for the fabricate scroll.
I'm sorry but if you can't even keep your story straight on a case by case basis during character creation, this game is already proving to be far too disorganized. For a GM that claims to like to say yes, you seem to be completely against the idea of anyone successfully casting in armor of any kind. I'm sorry but if this is a precursor of things to come, I would like for you to count me out.

| Shizzle69 | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Dude i think you lost track not me. That quote was in reference to the fact that it was a waste of time to custom make armor from scratch. Thats why i lead with the statement that they would cost full price not 1/3rd. The enhantments will be made for you. And as for me being against casting in armor, thats the games fault not mine. I didnt make the asf rules and i really dont think there is any reason to break them. I dont see why it's so essential to have armor at all either.
 
	
 
     
     
     
	
  
	
  
	
  
	
 