The Clockwork Tower (Inactive)

Game Master DajellyMan

Ok everyone post their characters in here when they are done (as we are not doing a recruitment thread because... Well you are already recruited)

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Just to reiterate:

- starting at level 3

- 3000 starting gold.

- two traits (or three traits and a drawback or ultimate campaign!)

- 25 point buy

- all races and classes (even third party)

Still waiting on others to decide what they are playing, dont wanna step on toes when it comes to party roles.

I have a melee alchemist/barbarian, there is a goblin gunslinger, and I believe you said synthesist?

same i wait to see what everyone wants to play and i'll fill in ...

My only hurdle so far is that I think someone mentioned wanting to be a trap handler, which was part of my intended build (A level or 2 of Ranger with trapper archetype for Trapfinding)

Hes supposed to be an alternate take on the Ninja, using "shadow tecniques" to wear his own shadow (Eidolon). Ive mentioned before he was loosely based on Zed from League of Legends, but as for the visual aspect of the Eidolon suit, think Venom from Spiderman, a hazy musclebound biped with a "liquidish" sheen to it, who morphs claws and a vicious set of teeth in combat.

Im taking a few liberties here, but ideally he would also be able to show his face, just like the spawn in the third Spiderman movie. There isnt much in the way of guidelines as to what you can actually do with the Eidolon suit, but since everything including 3rd party (ugh) is allowed, im thinking you would be cool with this?

Hmm, if someone else does the Trap duty, I could take levels of actual Ninja instead. That gives me all the nice Social skills without having to use Traits to get them.

So a level 2 Ninja, level 1 Summoner Synthesist. A novice initiate of the Shadow Discipline.

Sounds like a winner!

Hey Jellyman- what level are we expecting to get to? I'm working on tweaking a few things and am wondering if I should aim for a certain point.

Thalrik, you gained so many kudo points for making a character based on zed, because league is awesome... But did we have to mention the 3rd spider man xp

Hmm... I'm not so exactly certain, my best guess would be to aim for at least 10, but I mean it's set up to keep going as long as we want

Awesome. Almost done tweaking, I'll post it up in an alias soon. Had to modify some background elements, but I think it should fit, and it gives you a nice mad scientist antagonist hook.

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Heres what im thinking so far. Went with Ranger after all, figuring someone else who can do traps, albeit poorly, should be ok. Hes build rather heavily as a party face and infiltrator, with some decent melee potential. Think court intrigue with some supernatural badassery for fun. The Witch Guard Archetype is purely there for the Sense Motive class skill, so ignore the fluff aspect of it.

Im inclined not to work too hard on any kind of background. Id rather just have his personality emerge on its own, since I have the luxury of already being chosen.

I chose Neutral Evil, because hes a selfish person, in it for himself and not above some really dirty or downright nasty tricks to get what he wants. Call it Neutral Evil, leaning towards True Neutral (instead of the other way around which is "safer" but wouldnt fit)

If it's all right, I'd like to make my goblin Neutral Evil as well.

Are you allowing advanced firearms?

Yes it's all allowed

Keep in mind, that with advanced firearms, Gunslingers gain Gun Training at level 1, and firearms stop being exotic weapons.

Yeah... Emerging firearms is usually standard. If your doing advanced firearms (other than giving dexter's character a revolver or something) that really changes the game a lot. I'd say allowing s revolver or something to ease reloading a bit, but not make advanced firearms standard.

Well it is steam punk influence... I would say the world you begin in isn't really advance firearms, but the city you end up in is... If anyone has played golden sun, think lumeria. Steam punk lumeria.

I guess my point is technology, especially firearms, is fairly common in this place...

But I digress. Weapons will stay as exotic. But they will be around. So if we wanna call it... Quasi-advanced firearms

Hey guys this is Ashern's character, working on the backstory and will fill in that and tweak equipment soon.

Works for me.

And thus the Witch makes her appearance.

A pleasure to meet you all.

This is my friend who shall be joining us on our adventure! He plays regularly in my IRL campaign, and is a swell guy

His character was enraptured by a rapter, and became a wicked wordcasting witch.

I also just want to touch on the advanced firearms thing again since everyone seemed so opposed to it... Really I guess just don't worry about all that so much. This is my first time really running the campaign, and as I have designed it myself it is still constantly in flux and changes are / will be made I'm sure. All criticism is very helpful so please let me know your thoughts. For example... Beside guns becoming marshal weapons, why are you all so avid about it?

Can the constant word of power chanting qualify as the "1 hour of communion with familiar" for the purposes of memorizing spells? It would just be a flavor kind of thing. I still wouldn't refresh the spells until after an 8 hour rest.

Sure, that is fine.

So, like I said, this is my first time running the campaign so I am really open to all sorts if things, in that I am able to better get a feel for everything and how it is working out if it is actively on the verge if being broken ;p (or at least cracked)

That being said, I've put a lot if work into it so far and I think this is going to be a blast!

Im not so much opposed to it as pointing out the changes that come along with the advanced firearms (which often gets overlooked). My primary concern with advanced firearms is, ive seen The Last Samurai, and its hard to imagine a world, fantasy or otherwise, where conventional fantasy warfare hasnt fallen completely out of favour in the face of such advanced firearms.

My own solution to it when I ran a world with mixed advanced and regular firearms, was to have a Gnome vs Dwarves trench war taking place (they used to live together, but a dispute over what race their shared god was, spiraled out of control) The Gnomes and Dwarves used advanced firearms, with everyone else using the old stuff. Even with their secrecy about their weapons tech, some of it still got out to the rest of the world in small doses, just noone but them actually knew how to make it proporly. So they were present, but not rampantly available with every barkeep owning a rifle.

Not sure why I felt the need to write all that...oh well.

I agree thalrik. I don't plan in my world being like that, I agree it wouldn't make sense, as logically, everyone would want/have a gun so they could be equal force etc.

The main world has pretty uncommon firearms here. It's just mostly the city the campaign takes us to... Very very advanced. Anywho....

so far if i recap we have:
a witch
a gun man
a barb/alchemist

did i miss anyone?

so far if i recap we have:

a witch
a gun man
a barb/alchemist

did i miss anyone?

Not as far as I can tell.

who needs to make a character still besides myself?

I do

any idea on what you want to play dexter?

I'm playing a goblin gunslinger.

I'm playing a goblin gunslinger.

Are you going to take the feat that lets you use oversized firearms? That would be totally sweet.

I can't find the feat anywhere. What's the name of it? Also, I just looked, and I can't afford a double hackbutt even with the 3,000 starting gold. I may just end up with a masterwork pistol.

Was telling a friend about different classes because he was having a hard time deciding on something to play, and in the process I told him about Inquisitor and realized, id probably enjoy playing one myself.

So gonna write up an Inquisitor for the merry band.

I can't find the feat anywhere. What's the name of it? Also, I just looked, and I can't afford a double hackbutt even with the 3,000 starting gold. I may just end up with a masterwork pistol.

Can't remember the name off the top of my head, but it is a goblins only feat from the advanced race guide.

Also, as a gunslinger, you start with a gun (for free), that had the broken condition, so you would only have to pay to fix it and the enhancement bonuses.

I can't find the feat anywhere. What's the name of it? Also, I just looked, and I can't afford a double hackbutt even with the 3,000 starting gold. I may just end up with a masterwork pistol.

Feat Delivered!

You should totally do it!

I can't find the feat anywhere. What's the name of it? Also, I just looked, and I can't afford a double hackbutt even with the 3,000 starting gold. I may just end up with a masterwork pistol.

The feat can be found under the Goblin entry in Advanced Race Guide.

A gunslinger gets the Gunsmithing Feat for free at level 1. With DMs permission, you could craft the hackbutt yourself, making it cost only half as much (And might as well mastercraft it in the process)

I was actually surprised to find that it doesnt take any craft rolls at all to craft guns with the Feat, it just takes an amount of days depending on its cost.

Also, as a gunslinger, you start with a gun (for free), that had the broken condition, so you would only have to pay to fix it and the enhancement bonuses.

Sadly, the choices are limited to Pistol, Musket and Blunderbuss.

That is true about the staring gun, having to be a pistol musket or blunderbuss

I would be okay with you crafting the hackbutt for half price... (But I've got to say a goblin with an oversized blunderbuss is just awesome ;p)

By the way, I have +14 stealth with ZERO ranks in it ;)

By the way, I have +14 stealth with ZERO ranks in it ;)

Now you have to take the Blunderbuss. Imagine the stealthed shotgun carnage.

Zern, you should really consider the Urban Barbarian Archetype for your build. When only dipping Barbarian, the xtra Con from rage isnt really worth the risk of instat death that comes with it. The nice thing about Urban is, you can still use all your skills and drink potions while raging, and you dont lose any AC when doing so.

Urban barbarian also fits with Alchemist better (In general atleast)

Just food for thought.

Was telling a friend about different classes because he was having a hard time deciding on something to play, and in the process I told him about Inquisitor and realized, id probably enjoy playing one myself.

So gonna write up an Inquisitor for the merry band.

I also think the Inquisitor is very cool. A divine version of the bard in my opinion. Probably one of, if not my favorite class.

Thalrik, I appreciate the thought, but I'm planning on taking Raging Vitality down the road, and while urban barbarian is cool, I'm interested in...

Actually I just notîced that you can combine urban barbarian and invulnerable rager! That's perfect since I only planned on taking two levels. I love out on some HP.., but I already have a ton, andI still get the strength boost I wanted.

I actually thought about doing a total Dex build and getting an agile AoMF, but I'm going to be building completely around strength and getting a bunch of natural attacks. I am sorta debating swapping my race, but I would feel bad optimizing this character any further.

Thalrik, I appreciate the thought, but I'm planning on taking Raging Vitality down the road, and while urban barbarian is cool, I'm interested in maximal HP, and only pulling out rage as a last resort.

I actually thought about doing a total Dex build and getting an agile AoMF, but I'm going to be building completely around strength and getting a bunch of natural attacks. I am sorta debating swapping my race, but I would feel bad optimizing this character any further.

You are combining barbarian fighting prowess with alchemists mutagen correct? Why are you using rage as a last resort?

Who have not met yet?

Because I don't have a huge number of rage rounds, and I almost feel bad, because by level 9 I'm going to have a 30-32ish strength and have 5 natural attacks 4 of which do 2x or 1.5x strength damage.

Actually, speaking of lots of attacks, too bad we don 't have anyone who can buff like a bard or wizard.
(Assuming we get there, but given this group I totally could see that happening)