The Avalon Chronicles

Game Master lynora

This is a high level rules light game set in a school for magical kids, kinda a mash-up of Soul Eater, Harry Potter, and X-Men. :)


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Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Goin around, changing how ya look! Its not right! :P


I actually don't know if I like this one.

What do you guys think, top hat guy or Mr.Rabbit?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Rabbit.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown

I quite like the top hat guy, Magic. :)

I've been playing around with new avvies myself.


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Sadie got a new look. It makes me so happy that I now have legit choice for non Caucasian characters. :)


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And I made new aliases for some new arrivals.


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And one not yet finished concept. This will be my war weaver character at some point,


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Well....

If you're working on new arrivals..

^_^


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

And did we get a pe teacher?

Adon's got pe next, ant that might be interesting.


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icehawk333 wrote:

And did we get a pe teacher?

Adon's got pe next, ant that might be interesting.

Why yes, I just started this morning. :)


male human gestalt fighter 15/duelist 9, rouge 5, monk 1

This should be fun....

Ehehehe.


So that's one vote each. Anyone else? :)

Shadow Lodge

Zaira Daventos wrote:
And one not yet finished concept. This will be my war weaver character at some point,

This wouldn't happen to be the one I helped with by getting you a pdf, would it? If I did. Can't remember right now. ;)

"Weaver" being why I ask. >.>


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♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:
So that's one vote each. Anyone else? :)

Note that, I'm just generally against change. It confuses me- I'll grow on this and think the bunny odd after a few weeks.

I mean, have you noticed I almost never change my avatars on my charecters?


I usually don't like changing this avi much either, but I saw the tophat guy that wasn't super creepy and I jumped at it.
He also doesn't look like me, other than being white and having a hat, really. :/


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Gonna post tomorrow. I cringed at what I wrote, but my overall quality goes down later at night. Hopefully I can write something better tomorrow.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster
Monkeygod wrote:

I was wondering, what's the general cosmology like in this setting? I know Lyn has said that pretty much any deity can be found/worshiped, but beyond that, how are things handled?

Are the various fiendish and celestial races more or less the same? Are we using the D&D Blood War stuff, or the PF versions of things?

Does the Dark Tapestry/Outer Gods exist?

Also, are any of the dragons(beyond those who are actually Champions) aware of the Patrons/Champion dynamic?

For that matter, how widely known are either/both of those things? Do only incredibly learned specialists know of such cosmic beings, or is there some more widespread knowledge of them? Would there ever be any cults/followings/etc dedicated to one Patron or another?

Repost, I know Lyn's been busy and had comp issues, just want to make sure this wasn't overlooked or lost in the shuffle.

Dalesman might be able to answer some of this as well. Maybe DB3 and FCD too.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Well we have a shantac which is a creature from the dark tapestry so there's that


Sorry I haven't posted in awhile, was on vacation in a place with no internets, I'll catch up on reading then post.


lynora wrote:
I would get the inevitable comparison to one of my favorite movies, The Corpse Bride. He's not sure what's grosser about that, the dead part or the mushy romantic part. :)

The Corpse Bride. Is. AWESOME. Children who do not like it shall be flogged with a rope of black licorice, the candy so bitter it hurts. (but then again I was a fan of The Nightmare Before Christmas when I was a kid, that one didn't win me many friends, so perhaps his response is the more normal one...agreed, the flogging shall be downgraded to red licorice!)


lynora wrote:
Monkeygod wrote:

I didn't either FCD,

However, I like that he seems to "only" like cute guys in trouble or in need of rescuing.

In many ways he is the stereotypical hero type...he just prefers dudes to damsels. :)

And I'm a little surprised that more people didn't pick up on Jeran's orientation earlier. A couple people guessed as soon as I mentioned that I had a character who was still in the closet. The scene where he had a total non reaction to carrying a mostly naked attractive girl to the infirmary was a dead giveaway apparently.
I think the fact that more people didn't spot it is kind of a product of writing what you know. I come from a very conservative religious background, and this meant I spent a lot of years in the closet. Like postmark in Narnia kind of in the closet. I know exactly what it's like trying to pass as straight when you're not. The wondering what's wrong with you, the desperate wish for someone, anyone to catch you in all the little lies so you can stop being scared of being caught, the constant fear of rejection....and so on... So I used all of that when I was writing for Jeran. And now you know why he has such a hard time making connections with other people.

The deep Narnia closet can certainly give a person some interesting perspectives, especially from the stressful point of view of being an outsider(or at least feeling that way) when no one else even realizes you're an outsider.

Also, in general, Narnia is just a terrible place to try and live near.


Male More Human than Human Rogue 10 / Fighter 6 / Shadowdancer 10 / Void Incarnate 4
Monkeygod wrote:
Monkeygod wrote:

I was wondering, what's the general cosmology like in this setting? I know Lyn has said that pretty much any deity can be found/worshiped, but beyond that, how are things handled?

Are the various fiendish and celestial races more or less the same? Are we using the D&D Blood War stuff, or the PF versions of things?

Does the Dark Tapestry/Outer Gods exist?

Also, are any of the dragons(beyond those who are actually Champions) aware of the Patrons/Champion dynamic?

For that matter, how widely known are either/both of those things? Do only incredibly learned specialists know of such cosmic beings, or is there some more widespread knowledge of them? Would there ever be any cults/followings/etc dedicated to one Patron or another?

Repost, I know Lyn's been busy and had comp issues, just want to make sure this wasn't overlooked or lost in the shuffle.

Dalesman might be able to answer some of this as well. Maybe DB3 and FCD too.

Oh, I can answer most of that. I just can't guarantee that all of this truth is the truth, neh? ;)

The cosmology is based mostly on Pathfinder, so that should be considered our 'baseline' for most of what you asked (like Dark Tapestry stuff potentially).

The Blood War has never been touched on in either game as far as I remember. Since the demonic involvement in game is pretty commonplace, my take away is that it doesn't exist in this reality.

The Patron/Champion questions will have to wait for Lyn. Or just stay a mystery...

[Cue spooky music]

;P


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
Monkeygod wrote:
Monkeygod wrote:

I was wondering, what's the general cosmology like in this setting? I know Lyn has said that pretty much any deity can be found/worshiped, but beyond that, how are things handled?

Are the various fiendish and celestial races more or less the same? Are we using the D&D Blood War stuff, or the PF versions of things?

Does the Dark Tapestry/Outer Gods exist?

Also, are any of the dragons(beyond those who are actually Champions) aware of the Patrons/Champion dynamic?

For that matter, how widely known are either/both of those things? Do only incredibly learned specialists know of such cosmic beings, or is there some more widespread knowledge of them? Would there ever be any cults/followings/etc dedicated to one Patron or another?

Repost, I know Lyn's been busy and had comp issues, just want to make sure this wasn't overlooked or lost in the shuffle.

Dalesman might be able to answer some of this as well. Maybe DB3 and FCD too.

Yeah, sorry, I missed this post. I've had the stomach flu this week so I've been just kinda barely hanging in there. Probably not the only thing I missed. Still trying to catch up on all of it.

Cosmology is that basically if it exists, somebody probably worships it somewhere. You already know about the Empire's cosmology and how they think all gods are just aspects of a particular set. (An exception is made for the draconic deities Apsu and Tiamat. And please note in a naming conflict go with the Pathfinder version, thus Apsu instead of Bahamut.) Naturally this means that most of the remaining pluralistic beliefs occur on gem dragon worlds. So really, a little bit of everything. In this case, it doesn't matter who is right or not. It's about the right to worship freely. I am not going to get into plots where it matters which gods are real or not.

Fiendish and celestial races are treated basically the same. There is one difference. Demons/Devils/daemons are all basically the same category. Their differences are political in nature rather than physical. Basically anarchists vs lawful vs moderates and they all hate each other. The same is true of the different categories of celestials, they just get along better and deal with differences more politely. While hostilities often break out among the various fiendish factions, there is no blood war as you would recognize it.

The Dark Tapestry does exist. They are, by and large, not able to manifest in this universe. However a few have been getting through here and there, testament to the fact that those charaged with guarding the borders of reality against their incursion have been slacking off and not doing their job.

Yes, there are dragons out there who are aware of the champion/patron dynamic. The gold dragon former emperor for one. His son was the champion of time who killed balance. Dragons are popular choices for champions because of their long lifespans, so there are a smattering here and there who know about it because someone they knew was a champion. But not every many. And no, no cults dedicated to patrons. The knowledge of them has never been that widespread and since they don't grant powers to any other than their own champion, not a lot of incentive for worship there.


So that's why Balance had such an advantage. Time messed up and used an arrogant, overgrown, shiny lizard.

No offense meant to relatives. :)


Female Timelady Nerd 3/Geek 2/Whovian 13/Writer 2

...

Lyn, I now fully support you decision to not include Arcanists in the game.

See, I fuggered out how, in PFS, it is possible, with a single dip in Addy Wizard, by sixth level, you can deal 10d6+2 points of any elemental damage, close and short range, about 20-30 times per day.

0_0

*Scoots away from the lurking Arcanist beast in the corner.*

EDIT: And by the way, did you get my PM?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

That it? I can Make so much worse, so easy.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

By sixth level Ice? I would be interested to see how...


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Heavens oracle, color spray.
I win.

Of course, that isn't damage output.

So, I'll get back to you with a build on that in about 15 minutes.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Sorry it took so long. Had to revise the wording so it wouldn't be offensive.

build:
Zen archer monk.

Flurry with masterwork bow-
6+wis mod, 6+wis mod, 0+wis mod.

If within 30 feet, another +1.
Perfect strike if you think you'll miss.

Assuming str of say, 16, and wis of 16.

First attack, using many shot from the bonus feat at 6th does
+9 to hit, 1d8+5 +1d8+5
Second attack
+9 to hit, 1d8+5
Third
+3 to hit 1d8+5

If all connect, average damage is
4d8+20

Or an average of
38.
Add 4 if within 30 feet.

This uses no feats from anything but the class itself.
Nor does it assume any racial abilities, or a point buy higher then 10.

All without magic or limited use powers (unless you count arrows.)
In the end, even with that "uber blast" a bowman or swordsman will still do better in damage.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Oh, and the other zero-effort answer-

Mount + lance + spirited charge.

Preferably with power attack and furious foucs.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Those all require you to hit however. Also, having elemental damage of any type is seriously beneficial, especially if this comes from a class ability vs a spell. On the fly, you have the ability to pick an element to deal the most damage against your target. Fighting a white dragon? Oh look, I can do fire damage. Fighting a horned devil? Good thing I can do electric damage.

If this ability also happens to include sonic damage, then its almost pure win. Not quite OP, but close, as very few things are immune or resist to sonic.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

And this ability doesn't require you to hit?

Even if that's the case, I can still do worse, I just have to acutslly try and make a good build.

Besides,I a good but do won't be mising much, and if you're going to assume a full attack rolls really low, you'll also have to take into account criticals.

10d6+3 on a touch attack or with a save isn't even close to overpowered at 6th level.

If you can't kill your target of equal cr with one round of action, you are far too weak.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Oh, so this is just using your definitions of power.

Nevermind.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Unhuh...

So, the fighter with a greatsword is op cause he can hit harder, almost as reliably?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Actually, I'm shutting up now.

This is going to go nowhere but badly.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

No Ice, its that last line I was referring to. That's purely your opinion, thus, I'm opting out of this before it becomes something unpleasant.

Shadow Lodge

Look, ice, that's still pretty strong.

I can't even get 20-30 times a day with my empowered fireballs at 6th level.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
The Doomkitten wrote:

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Lyn, I now fully support you decision to not include Arcanists in the game.

See, I fuggered out how, in PFS, it is possible, with a single dip in Addy Wizard, by sixth level, you can deal 10d6+2 points of any elemental damage, close and short range, about 20-30 times per day.

0_0

*Scoots away from the lurking Arcanist beast in the corner.*

EDIT: And by the way, did you get my PM?

Yeah...I knew it was gonna be bad when I could figure out how to abuse the class as soon as I read it....

Yeah, I got your PM. It's on my list of things I need to do....it's such a long list....


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
lynora wrote:
The Doomkitten wrote:

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Lyn, I now fully support you decision to not include Arcanists in the game.

See, I fuggered out how, in PFS, it is possible, with a single dip in Addy Wizard, by sixth level, you can deal 10d6+2 points of any elemental damage, close and short range, about 20-30 times per day.

0_0

*Scoots away from the lurking Arcanist beast in the corner.*

EDIT: And by the way, did you get my PM?

Yeah...I knew it was gonna be bad when I could figure out how to abuse the class as soon as I read it....

Yeah, I got your PM. It's on my list of things I need to do....it's such a long list....

That's funny....

That's how I feel about every class I ever read.

I mean, I made a combo using pazio only classes that lets you play as a fighter for the first 5 levels, then have 9th level spells by 14th, with a caster level of 18.

As for the second thing, you're getting overwhelmed again, I suppose.
If you need help setting anything up, I can help. I'm not really involved in any plots anyway, and have spare time here and there beyond just what I use for posting.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

PM me that combo Ice. Very curious.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

I donno. You might use it.

>_>
<_<

(It's mine! You can't have it!)

Ok, on a more serious note, it's simple.

Fighter 5/spherewalker 5/Devine scion 4.

You gain 2 caster levels for every level in spherewalker if you didn't belong to a spellcasting class before hand, and one spell prepared of each level you have access to, plus bonus spells. These must be from your god's domain.

You can only take it to 5, but it's a "Devine spellcasting class" becuase you get Devine magic, thus allowing you to take Devine scion with it at the target for gaining Devine spellcasting as if you leveled in that class.

This is rather limiting due to "one spell use per spell level"

But when one of those spells is miracle at level 14, (any cleric spell 8th or below, any wizard spell 7th or below, no cost for this kind of use)
It's rather worth it.

Keep taking it to 20, and you'll have CL 30.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

This can also get you stuck in an infiante rules loop-

By having a Devine spellcasting class other then spherewalker, it keys to that.

But, since that keys off spherewalker, and it no longer has Devine spellcasting, you now are disqualified for the class.

Without Devine spellcasting, spherewalker has nothing to key to, so it goes back to having it's own spells.

You still have the class levels, so it then keys back to spherewalker.

Read from top.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

I'm not sure that combo works that way. Generally speaking, if some wacky combo does something much better than a normal anything, you've done something wrong.

Further, you are limited to just the Community and Luck domains, in order to get Miracle. Which, is fine, if you're looking to break something, but again, I rather doubt this works.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hold that thought.

And....

If the spherewalker has no levels in a spellcasting class, she instead gains one 1st-level domain spell slot, which she may use to prepare spells from any of their gods domains as if she were a cleric. Her caster level is equal to twice her class level. With each new spherewalker level, she gains a new spell slot for a spell level equal to her class level. A 5th-level spherewalker would thus have a spell slot for one domain spell from 1st to 5th level spells. The number of bonus spells and spell save DCs are set by the spherewalker’s Wisdom score.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Spells: When a divine scion gains a level, she gains new spells per day as if she had also gained a level in a divine spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not, however, gain any other benefits a character of that class would have gained. This essentially means that she adds the level of divine scion to the level of whatever other divine spellcasting class she has.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Anyway, absurd and rather pointless rules discussions aside, I have an idea for an odd (N)PC. I'll get to it later... Today, I guess. It'll be my second character without a combat stat-block, and my first that isn't intended to ever gain one.

Shadow Lodge

Divine Scion increase spellcasting, not the class feature that that grants you thouse spells or doubles your caster level.

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