Reign of Winter (Inactive)

Game Master Just a Mort

I'm very sure you'd eventually win. It's as I said, what price?

Agreed, whatever cost, excluding my life.

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I will give anything or pay any price...

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No good deed goes unpunished =)

I have special plans for you, Einar :)

I'm very sure you'd eventually win. It's as I said, what price?

Einar wrote:

Agreed, whatever cost, excluding my life.

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I will give anything or pay any price...

2.01 of the video

No good deed goes unpunished =)

I have special plans for you, Einar :)

that's a little scary, you've showed me that portion of that game before, Makes me wish I played it...

OK, so I made a deal with the devil witch, At least it's a favor from Baba Yaga, who we will have just rescued. Unless we die trying and then it won't matter ;)

Blizzard has good products. They really pay attention to details and the characters you see in game act you know logically, and you feel that the story seamlessly flows together.

I am not really sure if in Arthas's place I would not have done the same thing.

But I think I'd probably have had quarantine and try to work up a cure instead of slaughtering an entire city.

yes, quarantine and cure seems like the better option...I just remembered I need to get Einar at level 10 tonight...

Actually, for half the party, even if killed by shadows, we would only need Raise Dead... the create spawn ability of the shadow specifies that it works on *humanoids*, and Einar and Crummock are technically *outsiders* ;-)

Yes, this cropped up in a PFS scenario...

Note: Crummock is blind, as is Geist, so just put me on delay.

Lol. But still a general waste of...well you get what I mean. Ok, I'll wait for Mr Whiskers, then move things along.

Wait a minute, my GM in PFS cheated me of a resurrection! I was playing an aasimar! And no, I did not have scion of humanity, what the heck for, on an aasimar cleric?!

Never mind, that's too long back...and I don't PFS anymore so the point is moot.

I have an idle thought - maybe I should open ROW to another group on the boards, with recruitment thread asking for minimum twice daily posting.

I wonder if I'd drive people nuts, or they'd drive me nuts...nah probably better to finish this whole thing, then run with a new group, just to see what happens in the name of science...

a new group????

Speaking of running things, big day family in town so I'm going to bed early and may not post till late.

So If it comes around to Einar again, he will keep stabbing at the thing, with the spear, taking a 5 ft step back if it nears, if it gets within the reach of the spear he will drop it and use Natural weapons.

Eh, you're up now, I suppose. Have a nice time with your family, I'll bot you later tonight.

Yes, the idea of a kung-fu celestial tiger amused me ;-)

I watch Kung Fu panda, its fine =) My VC said no on my lion learning Kung Fu, though :( Oh well.

Are you sure you do not wish to come?

If the answer is still HELL NO, which I don't blame you guys, let me know so I can move things along =)

@Einar: So, just to confirm, you kept the Frost-Thunder Hammer?

@Everyone: There were four sets of the cracked pale green prisms, and there are four of us; would it be safe to assume we each take a set?

Map as far as I can translate:

W = wall(impassable), S =stuff on ground(impassable), E=Einar, C= Crummock, R=Mr Whiskers, T= Geist, L= Denzien of Leng, M=Moonbeast, X =open space

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@Einar: So, just to confirm, you kept the Frost-Thunder Hammer?

@Everyone: There were four sets of the cracked pale green prisms, and there are four of us; would it be safe to assume we each take a set?

I would like the try the hammer, and then decide if that's ok.

Now I need to go see what the cracked pale green prisms do.

If you ask the creature to do something that it would not normally do (in relation to your friendship), that is when the opposed Charisma check comes into play.

GM Mort, Einar gets a opposing charisma check to attack Geist, right?

@Einar: We have four that give us a +1 on attack rolls, and another four that give us +1 on saving throws.

But but...you were willing to stir fry a cat! Think how much more meaty Geist would be ;-)

You want to eat Geist, don't you?

But but...you were willing to stir fry a cat! Think how much more meaty Geist would be ;-)

You want to eat Geist, don't you?

Bad Einar!

Don't make me get the rolled-up newspaper...

;-)

Lol. It's these moments I live for. You guys crack me up so much...

Geist strikes me as a little tough to chew, let alone swallow. Especially since Crummock would have his starknife at Einars throat...

So Charisma role forthcoming :-)

Do you want to post a to-beat number and me role it? Or, me role it and you tell me if I beat it or not? Or, you roll it and tell me if it succeeds or not?

Just saw Mort ninja'd my post

hey, that was a twenty, isn't there some RAW or RAI thingy about twenties succeeding?

You're biased against some cats!

I say it's just desserts for thinking about eating cats.

Besides I want to see Crummock smack you over the head with rolled newspaper =D

To be honest I don't think so since there's nothing Re skill checks that nat 20 auto succeeds. Crummock if you find me something tell me about it.

Travelling back home today (posting from phone) so will probably have no access for about 5-6 hours or so.

I'd say no, because here

Also, if you umd a CLW wand with +19 for your umd modifier, get a nat 1, the wand does not jam, and you still get the CLW out of it. So its not an autofail on skill checks.

Be safe Hirah!

Ok, working on a post...

Hirah, your rhino is still around.

Einar! You want this!

Now come to the dark side...we have cookieskitties...

Now on a more serious note, copyright where copyrights are due, the original posters of that picture was from this

So I strongly do not recommend you go around eating cats and get into trouble with the local authorities. Since its banned and viewed as an abhorrent practice in most parts of the world.

Seeing that trying to hit Geist with the Morningstar may not work well, what would the roll look like for Einar to drop his weapon and attempt to grab Geists dangling tail and drag him away from the squid face?

Would it just be a grapple roll?

I picture Einar jumping up trying to grab the twitching tail, once he has the tail, he can attempt to pull Geist away from his new friend...

The word is punish :p Tiger stew also comes into mind ;-)

But mostly I'm sitting around snickering.laughing my tail off.

Ok. Let me stop laughing and start thinking seriously. You could do a World Wrestling Federation thing with Geist and tie him up.

That could be grapple, or drag/reposition depending on how you want to do it.

You could also have a proper funeral held for the poor, departed moonbeast...

*promptly loses it and collapses on the floor in giggles AGAIN*

...or declare the argument finished via trial by combat. Obviously Crummock and Geist won, so they must have been right.

Alright, seems we need to resolve this issue with Charm Person/Charm Monster.

Charm Person: The main thing to remember about charm magic is that it is not a compulsion (that is a different subschool of enchantment), which means

it doesn’t directly force someone to do something. Instead, the spell basically makes someone feel like the caster is a friend, and puts what the caster says in the best possible light. Just like in the Diplomacy section of Skills in Conflict (see page 184), being someone’s friend doesn’t mean the caster gets to dictate everything they do, and even the opposed Charisma check the spell grants can only go so far; it doesn’t compel them to act exactly
as the caster desires.

For instance, an evil necromancer might be willing to allow her friend to sit as her new right hand, but she won’t quit her entire life’s goal just because a friend asked, even with an opposed Charisma check. This advice applies equally as well to other charm spells (such as charm animal and charm monster).

So yes, Einar would have tried to help a friend. Now he might even want to raise them. That is different than continuing to fight a friend on the part of a dead friend while there are still enemies about.

You see, I look at the orcs tilling the fields example as per the given spell. Orcs till the fields? Ok, Charisma check...

Apparently someone ever got Ledford to go to the bar and drink till he passed out ;)

The charm person was just to punish Geist for messing around with the moonbeast - wasn't as if it was to stop him from searching for Baba Yaga, or anything contrary to his lifegoals - it wasn't making him give up his treasure, for example...

If Hirah wants to summon an earth elemental in and beat the crap out of the plant, while the party just sits and waits for the earth elemental to be done/duration of pit to run out - just state, I'll fastfoward the fight doing the rolls myself.

Then we can move on to the next encounter.

In Game:

Having trouble sleeping, might as well reply...

Einar 'Kinslayer' Bjornson wrote:

Earlier, in response to Mister Whiskers

Corrupts a friends mind?’ Einar looks at Mister Whiskers quizzically. ”Corrupts a friends mind? What are you talking about. You know my people raided and took slaves, I told you my mother was a slave who earned her freedom. Just because I don’t hate slavery doesn't necessarily mean my mind is corrupted.”

Calmly, Mr. Whiskers replies "I quite agree, that wouldn't mean your mind is corrupted. Have you perhaps considered that your sudden friendship with a creature that would have taken us all as slaves might indicate something was off? It is the magic the Moonbeast cast at you that I was calling the corruption."

Einar wrote:

the tree

Walking away from the tree, Einar smiles and sarcastically asks Mister Whiskers. ’So Baba Yaga only makes slaves of those who break bargains, huh? So what bargain did the tree break? Not enjoying torture?” Shaking his head he continues: ”Don’t worry about it, we all justify our actions.”

Mr. Whisker frowns, and looks up at Einar. Has the spell broken his mind? He seems to be verbally attacking me at every opportunity.

A fun discussion!

The only time I've had a character under a charm spell, we didn't discuss the long term effects, so I'm not sure how Einar should react.

Would he realize he is under a spell? Or would he assume the kindred feeling was somehow justified?

Obviously I assumed that in his mind it was justified.

Any opinions as to if he would consider the way he felt was due to magic being used on him, and what's worse would it change the way he feels?

A fun discussion!

The only time I've had a character under a charm spell, we didn't discuss the long term effects, so I'm not sure how Einar should react.

Would he realize he is under a spell? Or would he assume the kindred feeling was somehow justified?

Obviously I assumed that in his mind it was justified.

Any opinions as to if he would consider the way he felt was due to magic being used on him, and what's worse would it change the way he feels?

To my knowledge, there is nothing in the rules stating one way or the other. I tend to think that even if you know, the enchantment makes you still consider them a friend. In other words, yes he could realize that he is under a spell but it still wouldn't change his attitude.

Not allowing this makes it very complicated if the person under the spell has spellcraft and identified the spell.

As for if he would consider it, that is ultimately up to you. You did not spellcraft it as it happened, but this is the second time that Mr. Whiskers has said you were under such a spell. Mr. Whiskers has used deceit -- most recently with Ratibor -- but this really doesn't match the cases where he used it.

Keep in mind the spell only forces you to consider the Moonbeast a friend, it doesn't shift how you feel about others.

Time to see if I can't get back to sleep now.

If anyone wants to claim any of the items that we have found thus far (such as a set of ioun stones), in Book 4, please speak up :-)

sorry I saw your earlier post on them and forgot to respond, Einar will certainly use the stones, one of each, and the haversack if no one else wants it.

Not super familiar with ioun stones, can we keep them in the pocket and use them or do they need to be spinning around the head?

Spinning around your head please. And later I'm off for a movie.

How a person wants to RP while charmed - is really pretty much their business, I've seen anything ranging from murderhoboing their friends, to grappling and trying to pin their friends up while under the effect of charm.

Actually one FS scenario I've seen involved Ledford turning on his entire party, then going off to the tavern to get drunk. Under charm person.

How many can spin at once?

@Einar: There is no official limit. I have, occasionally, referred to a character as having an 'oort cloud' of cracked ioun stones orbiting his head ;-)

Sorry for delay. Was watching smurf movie. Oh dear. I turned into a smurf.

If anyone wants to claim any of the items that we have found thus far (such as a set of ioun stones), in Book 4, please speak up :-)

Yes, I would like a set.

The habit of the winter explorer looks nice. Someone should probably claim that. I've already got an item on my body slot.

Well since the AP said it, you can go and use the habit of the winter explorer + any other vision blocking effects it can see through.

I won't stand in the way of what the AP decided.

I'm going to bed, I'll check if you lot decide to library or what tomorrow morning.

Actually - had you wanted to set off immediately, it's possible, since all you need to do is get Greta go on wolf form, someone rides Greta. Crummock can maintain airwalk on Geist long enough and then there are 3 more party members, and 3 more doses of that ointment. That being said, spell prep for a siege is a good idea too.

laptop randomly wont turn on, and will now probably be a couple of business days until I can get it fixed Z_Z

In the meantime, I don't have access to much of anything unfortunately.

yuck, good luck with the laptop Hirah. I would say beat on it with a hammer till you feel better, but that won't help it turn on either...

However, having worked for a tech company that got rid of some old laptops, beating on one with a hammer will help you feel better :-)

Einar! Barbarians...

Did you try unplug it from the power source, then turn it on? My laptop had that problem too. Then there's also, the press the power button longer.

Also - you could ask Mr Whiskers for help, he knows more about computers then any of us do. I suspect Crummock is quite the geek himself too.

But honestly I eh had the conversation done in common so that more people could participate since I wanted some directions on what the party wanted to do.