
Vladimir Ducheski |

@DM Tuyena: As a side note, Vladimir is -2 on his perception checks until either A) He succeeds a perception check or B) Fails a different skill check (at which point he will be at a -2 on that skill) due to his drawback as I assume he failed the most recent perception check pretty badly.
I have changed his Perception Modifier in the line below his name until such a time A or B above occurs.

Thessk |

Yo all I've offered to leave the game as your posting schedule is totally out of whack with mine and going on further I'll probably be a hindrance. So gm is advertising for a new Cleric.. I just hope they'll have as much fun asI have had. ... I'll jump when you've a replacement.

Durielle Omenstar |

As to DM Tuyena's question in the gameplay thread: If we are just scouting the surrounds then the answer should be explore, correct?
How far would we be realistically following the tracks if we are not actually "tracking" the bandits?

Vladimir Ducheski |

As to DM Tuyena's question in the gameplay thread: If we are just scouting the surrounds then the answer should be explore, correct?
How far would we be realistically following the tracks if we are not actually "tracking" the bandits?
I would agree with that.

Vladimir Ducheski |

Morgrym Stoneheart wrote:i think we should go no further than would allow us to return to base at the end of the dayMorgrym travels pretty slow so you could make it about 12 miles out and be back to Oleg's as night fell.
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exploring or just traveling?

Talomyr |

Even if she wasnt high level, but like.. 3rd she could literally kill half the party with no issue. Like that Archer if he had got a turn.. That's what Sugua is trying to tell the more headstrong justice types. Such mindsets get you killed out here. The Animal could be through a feat or even just a trained animal. Those two alone would ravage party members.
I'm pretty sure we are aware of what Sugua is trying to get across, just because the CHARACTERS may be resistant to listen to Sugua and his 7 CHA, doesn't mean the PLAYERS necessarily feel the same way.
I won't speak for the others but in Vladimir's case, to use a real world example, I see him almost like a fresh college graduate entering an industry for the first time, yes some of the assumptions he makes are going to be wrong as he doesn't have vast amounts of practical experience (thus 1st level).
Now as to what Kressle is, my guess is that she is a 3rd-5th level hunter. There a number of hunter builds that are just brutal and seem to match up well with "Trent's" description.

DM Tuyena |

I am not sure of how merciful you may or may not be. Just pure speculation based on the intended level of the module, the number of PCs, and the original build of NPC in question.
Confession: I ran Kingmaker for my face to face group about the time it came out 3.5-4 years ago.
Well the good news there is, no Kingmaker is alike, I doubt you'll find many similarities between any two games of it.
Be careful with the concept of intended level, I follow it in other APs, I do not in Kingmaker. If the party rolls for 12 trolls as an encounter at level 1, I'll do it.

Thessk |

So players may get what Sugua is saying but roleplaying our characters correctly we would ignore him and follow our own thoughts, if you want to be an Oracle of Wisdom and have people listen to you, don't take 7 CHA. This is roleplaying and Sugua is very obviously going off the reservation with his ideas.
It is completely likely that he is wrong as he doesn't or shouldn't know the stats of Trent or Kressle (That GM Tuyena) is using and thus cannot be sure this group would be overmatched.
But in the end i'm leaving and you guys and gals have to deal with Sugua ongoing so, you'all make the best decision.

Sugua Bran't |

Sugua doesnt really care, you can not listen to him. The results will speak for themselves. He won't make you do something, he'll tell you how it is. He doesnt need to know the stats of anything, the stories and common knowledge make it easy to connect the dots and he actually has a wis. Having a low Cha doesnt mean your words are any less correct, in this case he's rude and knows it. Cha doesnt mean you even KNOW anything its the ability to convey suh words.. thus the Inquisitor ability to use wis and whatnot. It is very within his character when IT COMES TO FIGHTING, BANDITRY AND WAR. Its well within even his gods area. If some leads a group of mooks they themselves arent a mook, if a Mook has a 600 gp item there are hints IC that something is to be worried about.
It'll be sad to see you go Thessk, have fun in your other games.

Thessk |

It's just that you guys post when I goto sleep... exactly perfect.. I even stayed up a while and no posts, goto sleep and 48 posts happen...
Cha also helps you seem as if you know what your talking about as well. A confident person will be believed even if they are wrong because they exude an aura that they are right.

Sugua Bran't |

Right which is generally Bluff. But there are thigs that are jut right. Like in math or gravity and whatnot. Im not sayin' you have to even believe him. he isnt expecting it from city-raised do-gooders but eventually you'll pick up on one or two things. I COULD have an 18 Cha.. and still be a total douche.

Morgrym Stoneheart |

while im at work i dont really have access to the internet as a whole, so perhaps someone can answer while i wait do oracles still require to pray every day to regain their spells?

Durielle Omenstar |

You said "still require[d]." They have never required that in PF.
Unlike a cleric, an oracle need not prepare her spells in advance. She can cast any spell she knows at any time, assuming she has not yet used up her spells per day for that spell level. Oracles do not need to provide a divine focus to cast spells that list divine focus (DF) as part of the components.

Talomyr |

I'm not positive, but since oracles are spontaneous casters, I would think they would regain their spell slots much like a bard or sorcerer would.
Daily Readying of Spells: Each day, sorcerers and bards must focus their minds on the task of casting their spells. A sorcerer or bard needs 8 hours of rest (just like a wizard), after which she spends 15 minutes concentrating. (A bard must sing, recite, or play an instrument of some kind while concentrating.) During this period, the sorcerer or bard readies her mind to cast her daily allotment of spells. Without such a period to refresh herself, the character does not regain the spell slots she used up the day before.

Morgrym Stoneheart |

oh i know you dont have to prepare your spell slots, your like a scorcerer but if i remember correctly even scorcerer's need to meditate for an hour every day, this question is for RP, not so much mechanics, i get the mechanics of a oracle easily enough
edit: es thats what i ment talomyr, do oracles need to do the meditating still?

Durielle Omenstar |

Ah, I misunderstood the intent of his question then. I thought he meant like the communing a cleric does to even have a refreshed spell complement.

Angor Yasok |

Morgrym posted earnings from the bandit loot earlier as 72.25. Are we cleared to add that to our character sheets or do we have to find a place to sell first? I assume Oleg can purchase I since this is a trading post.

Morgrym Stoneheart |

Morgrym posted earnings from the bandit loot earlier as 72.25. Are we cleared to add that to our character sheets or do we have to find a place to sell first? I assume Oleg can purchase I since this is a trading post.
well khargol hasnt responded with weather he wants to sell the short bow on his char sheet already so its either that 72.25 or its 74.125

Durielle Omenstar |

All my research indicates Paizo has remained silent on the matter despite repeated inquiries for clarification.
Thus the decision lies with the GM. Aside from assumption, there is actually nothing in the Oracle write-up to support anything like praying or a set time period is required. Just rest.

Morgrym Stoneheart |

ok, then we leave this question to our GM, whenever you read this how do you feel about the oracle restoring spells, either way im cool, if she needs to pray i was just gunna offer to join her, whiel as a stonelord i no longer gain spells i still feel like i should pray to my god every day, i am a devine class after all

Donovan of Restov |

Hey folks, it looks like I'll be joining the team on the next morning! If anyone wants to establish that we have a prior relationship of some sort, feel free to let me know. :)

Donovan of Restov |

If we have a relationship it is probably not good.
* snrk *

Vladimir Ducheski |

Welcome to the game, Donovan. I could see Donovan and Vladimir knowing each other in some capacity prior to the adventure. Did you have something particular in mind?

Donovan of Restov |

Welcome to the game, Donovan. I could see Donovan and Vladimir knowing each other in some capacity prior to the adventure. Did you have something particular in mind?
Could be anything -- with other characters from Restov, maybe we grew up knowing each other. Maybe met in passing while Donovan was learning to be an adventurer-priest. Possibly had a rivalry or romance or something with someone in the past. I'm up for all sorts of connections as long as they make things more fun for everyone!

Donovan of Restov |

Also, just to make sure, good DM, I presume the stranger on the road is me? I uh, just figured I would confirm before posting, in case it's a bandit messenger or something instead. :)

Vladimir Ducheski |

Vladimir Ducheski wrote:Welcome to the game, Donovan. I could see Donovan and Vladimir knowing each other in some capacity prior to the adventure. Did you have something particular in mind?Could be anything -- with other characters from Restov, maybe we grew up knowing each other. Maybe met in passing while Donovan was learning to be an adventurer-priest. Possibly had a rivalry or romance or something with someone in the past. I'm up for all sorts of connections as long as they make things more fun for everyone!
Ok, if the two were to have met before it obviously would have been in Restov during each man's teenage years, while Vladimir was training with a swordlord (Niccomo Mikalos) and perhaps just before Donovan left to follow the cleric? Donovan is only a year older than Vladimir so from that standpoint, there are plenty of opportunities for them to know each other in some manner.

Donovan of Restov |

Donovan of Restov wrote:Ok, if the two were to have met before it obviously would have been in Restov during each man's teenage years, while Vladimir was training with a swordlord (Niccomo Mikalos) and perhaps just before Donovan left to follow the cleric? Donovan is only a year older than Vladimir so from that standpoint, there are plenty of opportunities for them to know each other in some manner.Vladimir Ducheski wrote:Welcome to the game, Donovan. I could see Donovan and Vladimir knowing each other in some capacity prior to the adventure. Did you have something particular in mind?Could be anything -- with other characters from Restov, maybe we grew up knowing each other. Maybe met in passing while Donovan was learning to be an adventurer-priest. Possibly had a rivalry or romance or something with someone in the past. I'm up for all sorts of connections as long as they make things more fun for everyone!
Sounds great to me. Let's roll with that and see where it goes!