
DM Irthos |

No problem DM...I understand why you need to know who is attacking who....I'm not sure we are going to make it out of here alive..lol
Geez my npc takes out four trogs and they still want more. Should have killed them earlier rather then let them go. >.>
I am joking in case thats not apparent. Anyways byron just over extended himself and did not have the AC to save him. Once he is not the only target in range and gets some healing things should smooth out. Basically you can take out the weak or take out the strong, just need to make it a group effort. But hey thats what low level is all about, polishing the rookie out of yourself. I dont think your in the red just yet. ;)

Nngara Erebrian |

Before I post I want to clear something up. Nngara why do you have a caster level check mod of +7 when your a level 2 so it should be +2.
Concentration:
When you make a concentration check, you roll d20 and add your caster level and the ability score modifier used to determine bonus spells of the same type.
Int 20=+5, Caster Level=+2 --> total is +7

DM Irthos |

DM Irthos wrote:Before I post I want to clear something up. Nngara why do you have a caster level check mod of +7 when your a level 2 so it should be +2.Concentration:
When you make a concentration check, you roll d20 and add your caster level and the ability score modifier used to determine bonus spells of the same type.
Int 20=+5, Caster Level=+2 --> total is +7
I said to make a caster level check not a concentation check. Unless I am mistaken they are two different types of rolls.

Nngara Erebrian |

The Caster Level Check is used to determine whether a spell cast by the caster is sufficient to overcome some other spell. It is used on things such as dispel magic. See for example:
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Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell's caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell.
For example, a 7th-level caster casts dispel magic, targeting a creature affected by stoneskin (caster level 12th) and fly (caster level 6th). The caster level check results in a 19. This check is not high enough to end the stoneskin (which would have required a 23 or higher), but it is high enough to end the fly (which only required a 17). Had the dispel check resulted in a 23 or higher, the stoneskin would have been dispelled, leaving the fly intact. Had the dispel check been a 16 or less, no spells would have been affected.
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If a caster is being confused or disturbed, it is always a concentration check with the DC depending on the severity of what is interfering with the spellcasting. Since the disturbance here is the bats, there appears to only be 2 relevant checks:
Injured while casting -->10 + damage dealt + spell level; DC 18 in this case - or
Extremely violent motion while casting --> 20 + spell level; DC21
I passed both of them.

DM Irthos |

Nngara the reason I said to use a caster level check and not concentration has nothing to do with being injured or in violent motion. I told you to make a caster level check because it was required by the special ability of the swarm. Distraction requires a caster level check as stated below from the subtype description.
Spellcasting or concentrating on spells within the area of a swarm requires a caster level check (DC 20 + spell level).
Edit- Waiting on your fort save too.

Nngara Erebrian |

I already rolled my Fort save - it is 3 or 4 posts up on the IC.
Per the creator of Pathfinder:
Tirion Jörðhár wrote:Probably makes a lot of sense for it to be a concentration check. That's what I'd do in my games.Question about the swarm subtype -
Swarms possess the distraction universal monster rule. Spellcasting or concentrating on spells within the area of a swarm requires a caster level check (DC 20 + spell level). Using skills that involve patience and concentration requires a DC 20 Will save.
Is this correct? Caster level checks seem to apply to spells like dispel magic and the like. It seems strange to have a unique non-concentration check just for swarm distractions.
Shouldn't this be a concentration check?
It is your call, but the caster level check makes no sense in this situation. If you are going to require this, then I will move away from the swarm and then cast the burning hands spell.

Deslin Swifthand |

Deslin you sure you want to skip your turn. The flames are a spell effect but they dont need concentration or be recast every turn.
Edit-Indeo who do you think your channel is effecting by the way. It does have a range of 30 ft. after all.
Then consider I shot him instead of waiting.

Indeo Hospice |

I channel to whomever I can reach without healing the enemy. Without a map I feel like we are fighting blind here. You know, its not that hard to whip something up on the google docs version of excel; doesn't have to be anything fancier than walls and names in the proper locations. I think it would really eliminate or at least reduce some of the confusion we are all experiencing.
my 2c

DM Irthos |

Deslin your 5 foot step cant be done with the four armed trog, when did you even get that close didn't you fire your bow last round and I know you did not do that near him.
To be clear he has Colyne to his east, Indeo to his north east, Byron from his south west, and Balenar to his south east. As far as I know he only has free space on his north, south, west, and north west sides.
Edit-Opps seems I missed something. Sense Indeo goes before Deslin last round he is fine but their was no space next to Colyne for Deslin to move. Well to make things simple I will just put Deslin between the four armed trog and the robed one next to Indeo. Deslin please let me know which free space around the four armed trog you take for your attack.
Things are going to get interesting with the swarm now. :)

Deslin Swifthand |

Waiting to hear from Deslin about what I posted above. Still here guys.
Sorry, I didn't remember your post... maybe read it too late one night or something? Deslin will take any square where he flanks the enemy, and if not possible whatever square you choose.