
fnord72 |
Lefty, it looks like your pricing the crafting cost. Vrog said no on that, or so I thought.
How are you getting 3 9th level spells as a 17th level wizard? Magical knack improves your caster level, not your caster class.
Keep in mind that all your higher level spells have to be bought from scrolls because the PRC doesn't give you free spells at caster level increases. 17 9th level spells at 3875 gold each is another 65,875 gold. Blessed book just means you dont have to pay an additional cost to scribe them fromt he scroll to the spell book.

Latharien "Lefty" Setiva |

Lefty, it looks like your pricing the crafting cost. Vrog said no on that, or so I thought.
That's what I did. If that's wrong, I'll fix it.
How are you getting 3 9th level spells as a 17th level wizard? Magical knack improves your caster level, not your caster class.
Int 40, and an orange ioun stone. 2 bonus 9th level spells, and an extra caster level.
Keep in mind that all your higher level spells have to be bought from scrolls because the PRC doesn't give you free spells at caster level increases.
No, but his 7 levels in wizard do. An Arcane Trickster has little trouble finding and accumulating new spells, in my experience.
Thanks for looking at it, though. It's got to be right when we start.

fnord72 |
Hiram, You're sheet is hard to read without prices, 6 tomes/manuals at 110,000 each is 660k. belt of physical perfection +6 144,000, headband of mental superiority +6 144,000. Amulet natural armor 50,000.
The bow tops 200,000, as does the falchion.
Did I miss somethign about wealth? pretty sure the limit was 880,000, no reduction for crafted items.

fnord72 |
The orange ioun stone increases caster level, not spell casting class.
You still look at the spells per day for a 17th level wizard.
You just get to cast those spells with duration's and ranges as a higher level caster. Int 40 gives you 1 bonus. So your 9th level spells per day should be 2.
So you take wizard to 3rd level, giving you a bunch of 1st level spells (18) in your spellbook, and 2 3rd level spells. Then you go into arcane trickster, which increases your casting class, but gives no spells known.
Then you return to wizard at 17th level (3 wizard, 3 rogue, 10 AT).
For your 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th levels you could select a total of 8 spells of 9th level or lower.
All the other spells in your spell book (other than the 18 1st level and 2 2nd level spells) have to be purchased against WBL via scrolls. Without a blessed book you'd also have to pay the scribe cost as well.
No different than a fighter buying 4 weapons for multiple situations. He can only use one at a time, but they all count against WBL.
Feel free to look mine over as well. I haven't looked at my spells yet though.

Latharien "Lefty" Setiva |

CL 17, +2 trait bonus, +1 ioun stone. CL 20. Trait bonuses stack with untyped bonuses, last I checked.
I've never heard of having to buy scrolls for every spell you have. My wizards (and tricksters) got plenty for free in every game I've ever played.
If that's actually the case, I'd rather make another character, because any wizard would suck, let alone a trickster.
This elf is the James Bond of Kyonin. He works for the Queen, directly.
She's a wizard. 17th or so. She knows other wizards. Lefty's known wizards she never met. He killed some of them, and took their stuff. Scrolls, spellbooks...

fnord72 |
I'll leave spells known to the GM to decide. I'd happily take as many as I want as well.
Check these for the difference between caster level and class level.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic
"In the event that a class feature or other special ability provides an adjustment to your caster level, that adjustment applies not only to effects based on caster level (such as range, duration, and damage dealt), but also to your caster level check to overcome your target's spell resistance and to the caster level used in dispel checks (both the dispel check and the Dc of the check)."
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qlfp?1-Caster-Level#1
It affects Overcoming SR, Dispel DC, and effects that vary with CL like damage dice, duration, or range. It does not affect spells known, spell slots, or anything that is dependent on character level.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ppp3?Caster-level#8
Upping your effective caster level I don't believe gets you spells any earlier, they just increase the strength of the spells you can cast. So if you had Orange Prism which increases your caster level by one all spells that state X/level would be one higher than normal. But this would not mean that you get level 5 spells at level 8 instead of 9 as a wizard. For spell progression you need hard levels in that class or a prestige class that has spellcaster progression.

fnord72 |
I'm sorry, i'm not trying to come across as antagonistic. Your last post looked like you were looking at spells per day based on a caster level of 20, not a spell casting level of 17. My bad.
I always ask people to look over my own sheet, and I learn new options and ideas by looking at what others do with theirs.
You'll see that I went for a different type of caster, I'm effectively a mystic theurge with a limited number of dizvine spell-like abilities. In fact my divine spell-like abilities are at a higher casting level then my arcane wizard spells.

Latharien "Lefty" Setiva |

I have several other characters that are straight wizard. I wanted to play around with something else this time.
Funny part is that with divine source, I can cast a couple of 9th level divine spells, and i have a ton of spell-like abilities.
That's cool. Very cool, really. Who wants to play the same old thing every time?

Latharien "Lefty" Setiva |

Revised list at full retail
Permanency 27,500
Belt 90,000
Headband 90,000
Rapier 53320
Boots 15750
Bracers 64000
Bonded Ring 38000
Ring Sustenance/Wizardry 152500
Cloak 96250
Ioun Stone 30000
Goggles 50000
Robe 58000
Haversack 2000
Secret Chest 5050
Hat 1800
MW Dagger 302
Sundries 135
Scroll True Res 28825
Wands 6000
1087682
6318 cash
Still very good.

Vrog Skyreaver |

it depends: as you have sussed out fnord72, some people got more starting money than others. Then again, some people get to start with an artifact, so it's a fair trade.
as far as spells known go, Fnord72 is correct: taking levels in a prestige class as a wizard to not give you extra spells automatically.
okay, as it is now 8:30ish where I live, I'm going to go ahead and close submissions. looks like I have completed submissions from the following people:
Martial:
Hiram Morrow played by Ptolmaeus Arvenus
Troy McClure, played by DEWN MOU'TAIN
Arcane:
Manisha Johart played by fnord72
Divine:
Lorelei Starling, played by cosmic dream lord
Highly Skilled:
lefty, played by GM Goblin King
Baergar and Mûmak, played by darksmokepuncher
since we're at 6, and we don't have a 2nd healer, I'm just going to run with the above group. You'll need the help, and I can always just add a monster here or there to make up the difference =)

Vrog Skyreaver |

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who applied or expressed interest; this should be a wild ride =)
okay, with all of this character creation stuff outta the way, let me get the discussion thread created and i'll post the initial fiction there; once everyone has popped in and said hello IC then i'll get the 2nd half of the opening boxed text posted and post the first scenario.
good luck, and god speed.