It generally is the day that the products release. We have a bit of a holdup this month, but they will be up soon.
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The FAQ says: "It is intended that animal companions or familiars can not activate magic items."
Does that mean getting improved familiar to have a familiar that can use wands is no option?
No. It means that your monkey/raven/squirrel cannot use the wand of fireballs.
Your mephit/faerie dragon/imp/quasit can. :-)
The Additional Resources page has been updated with March's new products, with the exception of a Chronicle Sheet for Pathfinder Tales: Liar's Blade.
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There has never been a restriction on printing out content from legally-obtained digital copies of our books for personal use. In this case, using one such printout so that someone can play at your table would count as personal use in the same way printing and distributing Chronicle sheets is permitted.
Sorry for bringing this back up but I sorta had my mind blown when this was brought up in a different thread. So, for example, suppose there are two friends and one owns a PDF of everything Pathfinder, and the other own absolutely nothing. If the first is willing to loan printouts of his pdfs, and he is present, the second person doesn't need to own anything? What if 6 friends show up and all want to use the printed pdfs of the first friend?
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@RtrnofdMax To make the opposing side, I have no conveniently portable device to use a pdf off of. I paid for my pdfs, why should I not be able to print them off and use them that way? They are watermarked with my name and email address.
@Wraithcannon Because they are not watermarked to prove ownership, Photocopies are not acceptable for the purposes of additional resources.
All of this is my understanding, I am neither Campaign staff nor Paizo staff. Just a fan.
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You cannot "loan" a digital asset, as giving it to someone else doesn't remove it from your possession. Nowhere have we said that anyone has the right to distribute digital copies of any of our products.
The primary reason we require players to bring a copy of the material from the Additional Resources list to a table is so the GM can review it to ensure that the rules are being applied correctly and to adjudicate the effects of the players' character abilities. Since printing from a watermarked PDF ensures that the content therein has not been tampered with, only copies of PDFs are permitted.
The goal is not to turn our GMs into piracy police; we want them focused on running fun and fair games for all their players instead. We have no plans to make this aspect of the campaign so restrictive or so detailed in its intricacies that it becomes a hindrance to people playing. If you want to ensure that you never run into any problems with a GM interpreting this rule to mean you must have your own personally owned copy of a given source, then have a copy you own of any of the related sources with you at all tables. If you are ok with a GM telling you one time that your stack of printouts with your friend's name on them aren't legal for your character, then do that. Players are encouraged to use their best judgment in terms of how they share physical copies of either purchased books or watermarked PDFs, but ultimately, it's up to each GM at what level they feel a source is legitimate enough to refer to in the case of a rules dispute or simply to familiarize themselves with.
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Mark,
Thanks for clearing this up. I am surprised by this ruling, but I think it is a good one. Telling everyone that they have to have their own PDF is surely the best way to toe the company line and force sales. But I am glad that you are leaving the situation open to the judge's discretion. This lets a husband and wife not have to double up on purchases. This lets your friend get his feet wet with his super cool character concept before he commits to the game and campaign. We as a community should always offer suggestions that people get their own PDFs if they are enjoying themselves, but you're right that people's time should not be spent checking pdfs and auditing builds for owned content.
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I think it´s not so uncommon for people to buy stuff they use together also together, meaning 2 or more people can own a product since everyone paid for it. On a PDF there would be only one name, but then not everyone gives their real name there. Outside of U.S.A. credit cards are not so easy to obtain and people can be quite paranoid about their names sometimes. So it´s fairly possible to have several people show up with printed pages from the same watermarked PDF.
Of course with a book that´s more difficult for obvious reasons...
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In order
to utilize content from an Additional Resource, a player
must have a physical copy of the Additional Resource
in question, a name-watermarked Paizo PDF of it, or a
printout of the relevant pages from it, as well as a copy
of the current version of the Additional Resources list.
I understand you can print out sections from a book as well(IE or a
printout of the relevant pages from it). So my understanding from the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play is that you can just photocopy those pages of the book(it never says has to be your book) you plan on using.
Honestly this goes back to the debate does recording/downloading/whatever music destory the indusrty or help it? I honestly feel enforcing rules about needing to own it will drive people away from playing. My brtoher in law I intorduced is 15 and can not afford all the books. Yet for christmas he wants people to buy him the books. If I was a stickler and did not let him build a character he is love with and play it he would not want people to spend all this money on the books for him.
I feel you attract more flies with honey and being nitpicky with it will turn people away before they have a chance.
I like the idea and notion you should own a copy but being militant will do more harm then good. I spent over 500 dollars on merchandise this past 9 months. If my first game they bullied me about what I needed to pay to play I would have never spent that.
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Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Paths of Prestige
At least on line (looking at the master list of prestige classes) it looks like most of them have channged their names
Here is partial research:
"Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Paths of Prestige
Presige[typo] Classes: Aldori Swordlord, Bellflower Tiller[Group Leader], Brother of the Seal, Champion of Irori[Champion of the Enlightened], Dawnflower Dissident[Dissident of the Dawn], Golden Legionnaire, Green Faith Acolyte, Hellknight Signifier[?], Knight of Ozem[Celestial Knight], Lantern Bearer, Magaambyan Arcanist[?], Mammoth Rider, Prophet of Kalistrade[?], Rift warden[Planes Walker], Shieldmarshal, Skyseeker, Sleepless Detective, Storm Kindler, Tattooed Mystic, Veiled Illusionist, and Winter Witch are legal for play.
Venture-Agent, Virginia—Newport News
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Only d20pfsrd.com changed the names, and that was due to licensing issues.
As d20pfsrd.com is not a legal additional resource for PFS, there is no need to list their altered names in additional resources.
If you are looking for a site that uses the original names, try The Archives of Nethys
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Wow, thanks for that Archives of Nethys link; that's a nice resource.
I really like d20pfsrd.com -- it's nice to have everything in one place indexed, searchable, and with the table of contents, also including the Paizo sources. However, when they deviated from the community license and had to go pure-SRD (meaning that some names were changed) the site did become somewhat less useful. It's still quite useful, but not as useful as before.
The official Paizo PRDs are great, of course, but again it's nice to have everything mixed together rather than explicitly separated out by resource.
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Wow, thanks for that Archives of Nethys link; that's a nice resource.
I really like d20pfsrd.com -- it's nice to have everything in one place indexed, searchable, and with the table of contents, also including the Paizo sources. However, when they deviated from the community license and had to go pure-SRD (meaning that some names were changed) the site did become somewhat less useful. It's still quite useful, but not as useful as before.
The official Paizo PRDs are great, of course, but again it's nice to have everything mixed together rather than explicitly separated out by resource.
Properly done, as long as it could have offered separation by either type or source, it would have been okay. Remember, for PFS, you actually need to have access to the original source, not just the Wiki/d2pfsrd/Archives of Nethys/PRD, but the actual source, so that the GM can, f needed, make sure the item is being used/understood correctly.
And d20pfsrd lost a lot of their usefulness, IMO, when they decided to start carrying their own products, and had to change all non-OGL content so that they weren't infringing on IIPs.
I am positive that Saluzi is far form the only person confused by the changes at d20pfsrd, especially the people who think it is the D20 PFS Reference Document, instead of the D20 PathFinder SRD.
I don't know, I guess the change has saved them money, since the only time I go there now is when someone links to their site in a thread as an online rules source, what there is of it, and for what it is worth.
In general, unless someone links to the rules tex, I will start looking stuff up by checking my local PDF, if it is on the PC I am using at the time; then the PRD, then the Archives of Nethys, if I can find my link, then, if it isn't available for me anywhere else, the D20PFSRD site.
Additional Resources is updated with April products.
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Additional Resources is updated with April products.
In Champions of Purity, I'm not sure how to parse this:
"Equipment: all magic items on pages 26–27 and 30–31 except phoenix armor and rythius, the kyton scourge are legal for play"
Is it supposed to be "rythius, the kyton scourge" which would be one item? If so the "the" should be italicized. If it's two separate items, you should move the "and."
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I really like d20pfsrd.com -- it's nice to have everything in one place indexed, searchable, and with the table of contents, also including the Paizo sources. However, when they deviated from the community license and had to go pure-SRD (meaning that some names were changed) the site did become somewhat less useful. It's still quite useful, but not as useful as before.
Yeah, I tend to still search there. Funny story, a friend made a dwarven stonelord, and part of his backstory was he was the great-grandson or something of the last king of such-and-such dwarven kingdom. Great. So he searched for a trait that would allow him to reflect that. He found this trait and he used it, because it worked quite well, and allowed him to be a prince...
During a session when he gave his title to be allowed through a noble's entrance, I inquired if he had a trait or feat that showed he was of noble lineage. He was like "Yeah, I have a trait called Prince" I said cool and we continued.
After the game I inquired where he got it from, since it wasn't a big deal at the time and I was just curious. First, he wasn't sure. *sigh* so I searched... and laughed...
The trait was renamed because of PFSRD not being a fan site anymore and having to rename things. The actual trait is called "Keleshite Princess" :D
Needless to say, he's since changed the trait... But you know I'm not going to be able to let him forget that for one mission his big tough dwarven paladin was a Keleshite princess... :D
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I really like d20pfsrd.com -- it's nice to have everything in one place indexed, searchable, and with the table of contents, also including the Paizo sources. However, when they deviated from the community license and had to go pure-SRD (meaning that some names were changed) the site did become somewhat less useful. It's still quite useful, but not as useful as before.
Still more useful than the PRD, even after Paizo interfered and made them change some of the names. I think that the confusion could be avoided by making it more obvious that the name is just a placeholder on things where they had to change the name. I also heard something about them spinning off another site which complies with whatever licence it needs to so that they can link to it, but I don't know what ever came of that.
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Well the PRD is wrong in places too. Look at the tetori monk.
Bonus Feat: A tetori gains the following bonus feats: 1st level—Improved Grapple, 2nd level—Crushing Embrace, 6th level—Greater Grapple, 10th level—Twin Lock, 14th level—Choke Hold, 18th level—Backbreaker. These feats replace a monk's normal bonus feats.
Good luck finding some of those.
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Archives of Nethys - even some Paizo staff can be seen using that site (and are fans of its Facebook page - and rumor has it that the Archives will have a search function soon! :)
(Since the owner of the site plays PFS, look for the Glyph of the Open Road for PFS-legal things too - still double-check with Additional Resources though, just to be safe, but so far for me I have yet to find a single thing marked incorrectly on the Archives)
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Additional Resources is updated with April products.In Champions of Purity, I'm not sure how to parse this:
"Equipment: all magic items on pages 26–27 and 30–31 except phoenix armor and rythius, the kyton scourge are legal for play"
Is it supposed to be "rythius, the kyton scourge" which would be one item? If so the "the" should be italicized. If it's two separate items, you should move the "and."
Rythius, the Kyton Scourge is one item (p. 31), so I would second your suggested fix.
Additional Resources has been updated to include the new Chronicle sheet for Liar's Blade, Pirate's Honor, The Wizard's Mask and King of Chaos.
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Are items printed in the sanctioned modules (on the chronicle sheet and in the module) available to players? They are only on the right hand side of additional resources, but not included like AP material is.
If they are legal, are they legal for purchase only with a chronicle sheet, or under the normal purchase rules (sufficent fame or on chronicle)?
Items from those chronicles are available to purchase by the characters who earned the chronicle sheet (either playing through or via GM credit).
Some items made available on the chronicles are not available anywhere else (i.e. some poisons, living steel, etc.)
Additional Resources has been updated. Chronicle sheets for Pathfinder Adventure Path #70: The Frozen Stars and Pathfinder Module: Doom Comes to Dustpawn will be added in a future update.
I’m hoping retraining rules will be legal as well.
Although I can see how they would not be, as half the cost of retraining is determined by time (other half-gold), and how do you determine time between scenarios.
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Not trying to derail, but each thing you can retrain has a specific amount of time it takes. It is pretty much assumed you have the time to do just about anything between scenarios(teaching an animal a trick or general purpose takes weeks). If anyone wants to discuss Ultimate Campaign further, it should be in a separate thread.
Just remember, you were the one who brought up retraining in the first place. :)
But I think that just goes more to prove why I believe retraining won’t be allowed in PFS, as the time will not be a factor, only gold.
Now, if Mike feels gold is enough of a cost, then great, but again I would not be surprised if it is not allowed.
The Additional Resources page has been updated. The Doom Comes to Dustpawn Chronicle sheet is now available. The Chronicle sheet for AP #70 should be along sometime this week.
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You cannot "loan" a digital asset, as giving it to someone else doesn't remove it from your possession. Nowhere have we said that anyone has the right to distribute digital copies of any of our products.
The primary reason we require players to bring a copy of the material from the Additional Resources list to a table is so the GM can review it to ensure that the rules are being applied correctly and to adjudicate the effects of the players' character abilities. Since printing from a watermarked PDF ensures that the content therein has not been tampered with, only copies of PDFs are permitted.
The goal is not to turn our GMs into piracy police; we want them focused on running fun and fair games for all their players instead. We have no plans to make this aspect of the campaign so restrictive or so detailed in its intricacies that it becomes a hindrance to people playing. If you want to ensure that you never run into any problems with a GM interpreting this rule to mean you must have your own personally owned copy of a given source, then have a copy you own of any of the related sources with you at all tables. If you are ok with a GM telling you one time that your stack of printouts with your friend's name on them aren't legal for your character, then do that. Players are encouraged to use their best judgment in terms of how they share physical copies of either purchased books or watermarked PDFs, but ultimately, it's up to each GM at what level they feel a source is legitimate enough to refer to in the case of a rules dispute or simply to familiarize themselves with.
Hey Mark, what does this mean for people who chose to purchase Hero Lab licenses?