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The book has so much mechanic content that they could call it Ultimate Faith.

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Technology is the magic of order and magic is the technology of chaos ?

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Now i want a Champions of Order, Champions of Madness, and a Champions of Non-commitment books.

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This would help my Phantasy Star campaing taking off, now i only need stats for a diamond armor, and deep-dungeon-candy-stores.

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Mythic Adventure Path idea: The Norse Pantheon finds Golarion and tries to influence the Lands of Linnorm Kings by force, and the adventurers have to stop them before a godswar start.

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I hope now Paizo perceive how much a On Hallowed Ground type book is wanted by everyone. Setting gods are cool, but real world gods have a lot more impact and relevance. i loved Planescape because of that.

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The way i use summoners in my campaing can be resumed in only one word: PERSONA !

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Haladir wrote:

Please-- let's shy away from using real-world religions in this discussion!

That way lies flame wars and moderator intervention!

This means we can´t talk about Lamashtu, Pazuzu, or Tiamat in this thread ? Or this limitations is only for religions worshiped in USA ?

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There are a lot of Brazilian legends, myhtology and folklore that could never have been translated to english. This is just the start of a really long text that have appeared on brazillian RPG communities:

ALAMOA - female fey from the island of Fernando de Noronha .

Lives in the peak and wander by its surroundings, observing everything that happens on the island . According to the myth, on fridays the stone peak splits and she appears as a bright light or a Will O Wisp. Protective of wildlife, she appears for fishermen that fish too much and hunters for sport in the form of a beautiful and naked woman, but when they approach, becomes a skeleton, making them mad.
The former inmates of the prison on the island of Fernando de Noronha told that on the eve of storms , often at midnight ,she appeared on the beach as a beautiful naked woman, with long blond hair and dancing to the sound of waves, illuminated by the lightning. Her feet were not touching the ground, but floating in the sand. It was Alamoa , feminine form of Alemão ( German in portuguese), because according to popular interpretation, a blonde woman in these parts could only be German.
Her shape varies. Sometimes she is a bright, multicolored light, sometimes attracts and seduces men. Those who succumb to his charms see it turn into a skeleton. For some it is a lost soul , looking for a strong man to help her unearth a hidden treasure.

The stone peak its her lair. On some nights , the stone splits, opening a door where a light goes out. The beautiful Alamoa dances, attracting its prey. Those who enter her lair as soon realize with horror the terrible transformation. Her beautiful bright eyes become two holes and she is seen as a gruesome skull. So, the gap closes and the poor man is never seen again. His screams of fright, however, still resonate across the place for many days.
It is characterized as a convergence of several legends of mermaids and Iaras. The theme of the supernatural woman who attracts and seduces men, becoming fell, is common and recurrent in the popular imagination , and therefore impossible to accurately determine its origin .

AMANA - MANHÃ - Mother Goddess of Rain and protector of springs. Has the shape of a frog and you can hear her sing when it rains . Live at the headwaters of the river Negro.

AMAO - Spirit of Rio Negro. Camanaos taught the indigenous process of making cassava bread , cassava flour , tapioca flour and various other things .

Divine character that taught indigenous camanaos , river Negro, Amazonas, the process of making cassava bread , cassava flour , tapioca flour and various other things . Then disappeared forever.

Brandão de Amorim heard the legend :
" At the beginning of the world , have appeared among other creatures a pretty girl . Did not know of man , her name was Amao . Once upon a afternoon, Amao went to the river , there sat . At the same time passed by her a cluster of fish, their scales, as told, actually shine. She reached into the river, caught a fish. The fish made ​​it tight in her hand, jumped straight in her shell , pierced it, then made ​​the jump into the river. Since then his Soul Patch was growing when he reached maturity of its moon , she had a boy .

The child already had two moons , when his mother was netting fish from the head of the stream . She left the boy lying on a stone. It was noon, Amao stood up, went to see the boy , found him already dead .

Carried his body was, wept in the night, when the sun came up , the boy spoke thus :
-My mother, notice how animals and birds are laughing at us. They frightened me to death. Now, do not let them scoff at you, smokes them with resin to turn them to stone. He only spoke so.
At the afternoon, Amao buried his son and at midnight all animals turned to stone. In the morning , as i was told, cururu , piping guan , shaman bird, and otter, were already transformed into stone . Big Snake , streak , Taiaçu , tapir only were not turned to stone because they were eating to the bedside of the river. Amao flew straight to the head of the stream, went on the top of a large stone, and there he found Taiaçu and Tapir sleeping. Amao beat Tapir first, then beat Taiaçu, both died. After that, she slashed open Tapir and Taiaçu , threw their meat at the river, leting alone a thigh from tapir, another from Taiaçu upon the stone, then turned them to stone. As the big snake, and the ray were still eating at the bottom of the water, she made a loop in the river to grab them. At night she heard something hitting the tie, gone to see and found the big snake with ray. He covered them with resin, turned them to stone immediately.

After that, she returned to teach all jobs to the people of her land.
Sat near an oven and showed her people how to make flour, tapioca flour, beiju and lots of things . After teaching all Amao gone up from this land, nobody knows where she went! "

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So this mean we will never have a Clowns of Golarion book ?

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It a setting prerogative that casting [evil] spells is a evil act. You don't know if every time a devil is summoned a baby unicorn don't die somewhere. We don't know why, itś simply evil.

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Blood of the Stars: Alien races content
Blood of the Past: Primitive/Throwbacks racial options
Blood of the Royalty: Exclusive bloodlines of noble families that give divine mandate
Blood of the Atom: Mutants and weird bloodlines
Blood of the Magic: Magical families with unique traditions
Blood of the Raven: Tengus for everyone.

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I only let players consider making characters after the last part get out. Paizo makes a great work uniting everything, but some GMs, like me, need a whole view before deciding what would work for his group.

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Axial wrote:
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I'm quite interested what the book does with Nocticula.
Hey, Manguskn...maybe Deskari can actually kill your players. Who knows? :)

I wanted magnuskn players character sheets to make them the last bosses of my campaing. They come from a parallel Golarion to destroy our Golarion because we are too weak.

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The All Seeing Eye wrote:

That said, I think for my part the issue here is some people may be offended by *insert notion here* and them being offended or having issue is not *wrong*. Folks may not agree, folks may not have had that experience, but it doesn't make people *wrong*. Feelings aren't *wrong*. Actions on feeling can be. Some notions you come to based on feeling can be.

But if anyone, regarldess of who or what they are (a red martian 5 gendered...

The problem is not acknowlegding other cultures, manners of thinking and diferent philosofies. To me racism is a cousin of nationalism. If this forum is open to the wide world, lets respect other people idiossincrasies too.

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Jessica Price wrote:


You can say you use the word differently, but that doesn't really matter. Words have history and connotation, and the fact that you may not want to invoke that history doesn't mean that it's not there when you use a word. For example, if you say that something an African-American said to you made you mad enough to lynch him, it doesn't really matter whether you just meant "strangle." The word in that context has racist overtones that don't go away just because you say they weren't intentional.

I guess you would be really surprised how much you North Americans casually say things to that effect without knowing. This is a big world.

Jessica Price wrote:

I'm unclear what you mean here, but it's irrelevant. The point is, you're talking about the portrayal of female characters, and describing people who protest at how they're portrayed as "uppity." That has some deeply misogynistic overtones, suggesting that if women object to how women are portrayed, they're getting above themselves.

On the contrary, women have every right to opinions, and commentary, on how female characters are...

There are many types of man and many types of woman. I heard many women using the same term to describe the same situation. Who has the right to say who is right ? Claiming automatic misogyny for that could be considered misandry.

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As a Brazilian from Bahia, i cant understand how you manage to dress with so many cloth. Even Seoni, Amiri and Sanjan attire seems unconfortable and "hot". That said, Seoni choice of lack of "cover" is unusual even for our tastes

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Even today there is parts of Earth without processed water or eletricity. We are not there yet also.

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I was thinking about the differences between brazilian fantasy settings and north hemisphere fantasy settings and what i heard from other cultures. I became curious about what changes do you make to better accomodate the cultural assumptions of the setting and the expectations of your players. Maybe US americans don't need any changes but there is a plenty of people from other cultures on these boards.

This is what i do in my own campaing to better accomodate brazilian (from Bahia) players:

1- The sun rises 06:00 AM and goes down 18:00 PM, even in winter. Nothing changes too much between our seasons (we are too close to equador) so we failed a long time to notice that happen different elsewhere.

2- People go to the beach for fun in the summer, anywhere. Being too cold to take a bath at the sea is strange to us, so people thought was strange that Sandpoint dump was at the beach.

3- People drink cachaça, and eat beans with rice. I don't know what a ale is, or what people eated in medieval times beside meat. So people eat more like brazilians in my campaings.

4- Guards and city folk are a lot more weirded by strangers walking around with weapons. So people expect to have to hide weapons a lot more.

5- Cheliax sound more like Spain, Andoren more Portugal, Taldor more Italy, Nirmathas more Netherlands, etc... because we are closer to that cultures.

6- There are fewer religious conflicts and people are more accepting of any religions and temples of multiple interpretations of the same god are more commmon. Like Sandpoint Cathedral.

7- Not oriental Martial Arts are common among peasants (the mwangi brought capoeira to Avistan) .

8- People are expected to bath everyday.

9- There is a lot of mwangi immigrants everywhere and they broght their gods to be worshiped in Avistan.

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I don't know if Amenopheus has it in him to deal with "familiar information broker", i am worried. Given Sczarni and Qadira participations, i guess he will have assistence.

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The same thing i wrote on the other thread, the problem with "mature" content is not that sex scenes are missed, the problem is the consequences os a PG world.
Remember the whole Calistrian sacred prostitute affair. Imagine if Paizo done an AP about The Tudors ? How to explain Anna Bolena affair ? Everyone is too judgamental of who is and who isn't lawful good. So i keep feeling limited by what plotlines can came from Paizo. It started very well in Rise of the Runelords and the mature content is slowly degrading into D&D norms again (the exception is violence).

I don't think even if Paizo want, she could change it. Pathfinder RPG gone too mainstream, too much too risk.

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DrDeth wrote:

I find too much violence, sex, torture etc to be the opposite of “mature’. You’ll find in games with older professional adults, this sort of thing is not dwelled upon. I mean, if it’s necessary, it’s necessary “Ok, I cut his throat.”= sure, but describing the cut, the blood and his screams are not.

“Dark & gritty” is so passé.

The maturity in that, at least in my culture point of view, is that you are accepting that such things are a fact of life and that someday you might have to face it in real life and no one will be there to protect you.

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I was told that in USA, couples have separate bank accounts and is not expected for the husband to give control of his money to his wife. Here in Brazil, the custom is that for a couple to have a joint account, so the woman control everything. So we are slaves. Please free us.

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And about Tantric Magic ? Anyone remember Fortunato from the Wild Cards universe ?

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Aranna wrote:

~imagines a boy and girl sitting down together and opening up a rulebook~

"what are we supposed to do next?"

:)

This is not what the Kama Sutra is about ?

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Yeah, sex is a fact of life, but is a lot more fun doing than gaming about it. But what i miss more about sex in RPG is all the things people do just to get sex. The world feels bland without the escapades of the duke and the duchess hiring the adventurers to follow her husband. Or flirting at the tavern, or the passions of evil (necrophillia and worst subjects), or how Rumiko Takahashi put "Pepople do really crazy things when they are in love." You don't even need to have sex scenes for sex, love and passion have a huge impact in the world.

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thejeff wrote:


Of course it does. That's why the combat sports stay segregated, just like other sports. It's also why most of the unarmed combat sports have weight classes as well.

I allways thought that men were afraid of losing face when they lost to women, so they segregated sports. I am a big guy, practiced martial arts for a big period of my life and had to fight women and i learned to fear them the same.

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Vivianne Laflamme wrote:

I also think hillbilly rapist ogres shouldn't be included in the Bestiary.

As for why I think that: statistically speaking, at least one person at your table has been raped or knows someone who has been raped. So it's insensitive to blithely include, even if it's included just to show how vile the forces of darkness are.

There is some line that has to be drawn, possible victims of rape (of both genders) have the same issues of others victims of violence. There are people playing at all-around-the-world that are in the middle of active war, facing famine, epidemies, drug abuse, lost a loved one to animal attack, had a loved one killed because of a religious issue and many other tragedies.

If you are playing with children you have to avoid some issues, but if you are playing with adults that some strong psychological trauma and did not asked in advance to avoid certain subjects, there is no way for the GM to know.

(I am not saying that rape is not a terrible thing, i was saying that there is a lot of terrible things in this world).

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Saint Caleth wrote:

The presence of magic makes a typical fantasy so radically different from RL that I have always seen it as a lack of creativity when a setting fails to have societies with radically different ideas about thing than any in actual history.

Also I think that there would not be any real history of gender essentialism or general gender-based b*%!+~+# in a world with magic where a woman is as likely as a man to be a spellcaster and be able to light your face on fire. Or a world like Golarion where deities like Arshea can actually speak to people and tell them to knock it the f%$% off.

So, are you saying that when women could shoot others people in the face with a gun, all gender-based issues ceased to exist ? And because homossexual male could chop anyone with an axe as good as anyother male they never had issues ?

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Orthos wrote:

There's two different levels here, really.

On the one hand, I have no issues with long, roleplay-focused sessions with little to no combat, deep and complex friendships, rivalries, and other such relationships with NPCs, and such like. My games are full of those, and the huge size of my current campaign's NPC cast list is still growing, and regularly being revised with further expansion of the PCs' interactions with the NPCs. So it's not a lack of immersive interaction.

What it is is that I, personally, am not very comfortable with or interested in pursuing anything along romantic or sexual themes. So if anything like that happens in my games, it's all off-screen, or handwaved, or otherwise not delved into in great detail.

Althrough brazilians have a lot more casual approach to sex, we don't do it either, but we think that is very strange to roleplay as if people are not wanting to do it. But there other types of relationships, like friendships, rivalities etc ... We go deep in the motivations of characters, and characters go deep in theorycraft in motivations of the villains,so very minor things in adventure paths gain entire diverse meaning in brazilian eyes, and so we congratulate very much that paizo can make adventures that appease to our tastes while do the same with the rest of the world.

The point is, there is no right answer. Maybe gender roles in fantasy is wrong in american culture but right in others. I guess paizo has the right amount. Korvosa and Kyonin have "girlies" queens, while Cheliax and the realm where Wraith of the Righteous takes place have warrior queens. The black Mwangi have a unique culture, and they are accepted as equal but have to overcome a stereotype. The GM can downplay or upgrade the conflicts as the group see confortable and everybody is happy.

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thejeff wrote:

You are of course perfectly free to have a setting where slavery is not-evil or even the highest good if you and your players want that. You're also free to have a setting where rape is good. (You can base it on Gor, if you want.) Or where non-humans or non-elves or lower-class people can be casually murdered by their betters. And you can call all of these things Good or at least not-evil, if you want. I can't stop you. The PC police aren't going to break down your door and enforce modern humanistic sensibilities on you. Have all the slave-owning, murdering rapist paladins you want. After all, the people of that culture think it's just fine, so what's the problem?

I'm not going to. I'm also not going to pretend that you can enforce slavery without doing a lot of things that I'm going to continue to consider evil. And that fall well into the game's definitions as well.

You may find some slaves that will be happy with their status or at least more worried about what would happen if they were freed, but that's not an excuse to force the others to remain slaves.

Is capitalism a necessary evil ? Giving money to the poor is helping them or making them addict to free money ? The bully opress the weak or teach them to be strong ? Good can come from evil and evil can come from good ? Who has the right answers ?

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Orthos wrote:

I think that's the major hangup, now that I get down to it. I just don't find playing out those kinds of biases fun. It's not entertaining. The struggle isn't enjoyable or vindicating. It's a slog. It's been a slog doing it in Kingmaker, where it's a grand total of one NPC in the whole campaign with that sort of sexist, chauvinist mindset, and I'm immensely glad that his particular slice of the plot pie is about gone.

It's only slightly less painful doing it for racism/speciesism, which is one of the reasons I don't have a humanocentric world - another thing I don't like about Golarion, if you're still looking for more on that particular list - and why outside of a few insular locales or closed-minded people most places in my world don't have major hangups against other races (though unlike the gender thing it is most, not all). Heck, I've even tossed out the old standbys. Dwarves and Elves don't have any major conflicts at all in my setting, for example, nor do Kobolds and Gnomes.

It's just not fun and I don't enjoy it, regardless of which side of the GM screen I'm on.

That's exactly the problem. We, brazilians, love the one who breaks the mold, who depart society expectations and do his own thing, brazilians cheer for the losing horse. This how we see our country, we can be poor, others see us as inferior, but we are proud to be ourselves even like that. So we love to roleplay struggles, is not painful to us if we can win in the end (we used to the soap operas when the main hero suffer to whole serie to meet a happy ending. So, for me, the thinking that the world own me to be to have equal conditions is not fun. I think that you only deserve it if you fight for it from the beginning, the fight that make you worth, not the result. If you had to start worse then others, than you deserve more because you had to fight more. This is were i come from.

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To give a different point of view. Here in Brazil we talk (and joke) a lot more freely about racism issues, we even had a Brazialin RPG game (Challenge of the Bandeirantes) were the setting races were the real world races (white, black, indian, half-black, half-indian), and most black characters were slaves or ex-slaves. I don't remeber any issue about it because it was based (althrough with real magic and monsters) in the 1600s and people felt that if it were different, it would downplay the truth about the early racial issues of Brazil.
I am of mixed race myself and i have played with a slave character (and yes, our slavery was the US-type slavery, only with a lot more interracial relationships) and i don't feel bad about it. It 's not different from playing a Tiefling or Halfling in Cheliax or a Half-orc anywhere. It's a roleplaying challege about a true fact about our past . I don't talk for every brazilian out there, but we just don't think roleplaying the racial slavery make it right or wrong, just knowing the truth and facing it. The brazilian mentality simply don't function like that, white people play with black characters and black people play with white character, and the white character whip the black character and no one find it strange or weird.

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Actually i heard from stories older than D&D about 75 charges wands, but it was a brazilian story so i don't know where it come from (proabilly Portugal).

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The first PFS scenario written by a Brazilian ! Make us proud Pedro Coelho !

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A subscription only means that you are giving carte blanche to paizo do anything that she wants because you would buy it anyway.

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Like others before, i prefer inclusion over inclusion. Look at coutries like Japan where extreme technology and fashion walk side by side with millenial tradition and conventions. Brazil where benchmark industries of biotechnology exist not far of stone age natives.I like when not everything makes sense because that's just like the world where we live.

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The new classes names in Brazilian Portuguese:

Arcanist - Arcanista
Bloodrager - Sangue-furioso
Brawler - Brigão
Hunter - Caçador
Investigator - Investigador
Shaman - Xamã
Slayer - Matador
Skald - Skalde
Swashbuckler - Mosqueteiro
Warpriest - Sacerdote-guerreiro

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Let's then build a kickstart to buy the entire stock of the Second Darkness so there is more chance of a collection edition. Remember that a kickstart its not only about the money, but it also shows how much the fans care about something.

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These are some photografic work about the African Gods

There is still time for the creation of new Garundi gods or Empyreal Lords in northern Garundi that actually are naturally Mwangi culturally ? Or this ship has sail after Serpent Skull already been publushed and only, maybe, when sothern garundi is ever explored we have chance for this ? Or even then is too late ?

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Tacticslion wrote:
Dragonamedrake wrote:

Make a stone chest.

Cast Stone to Flesh

Craft a flesh Golem

Walking loot chest that follows you. Now if only you could give it actual life and then awaken it...

Niiiiiiiiice.

I think a permanently animated chest would suffice similarly, though. Also, you'd have to make six of the chests, separate them, and then stitched each of them back together with parts from the other six (only one part each per golem).

What would you even call a collective grouping of chests? A gaggle? A murder? A herd?

"A cohort of chests comes at you angrily! Roll initiative!"

"Why are the pectorals of my Leadership feat's best feature attacking meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?!?!"

A Chestipede ?

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I blame the dragons, if not for their very casual aproach to sex, we wouldn't have so many bizarre half-dragons creatures.

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As for southern Arcadia. the Tupi, Guarani, and others are barelly know up north, so i have low hope of some equivalent. As far i know, the native brazilians had a unique culture, with different gods and religions.

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I ran the scenario last sunday and it went in a very mysoginisc way. Somehow the players commented that Thalia was 30 or something and still single, and considered giving her do Korianna not because of the promise of helping PS, but because she assured them that the Andares daughter would be married to a rich man of a far away land. Thalia was deeply offended.
After the adventure, they encauraged her that as now that she was rich, she should go after the Galtan leader and propose to him (they really thought they were in love with each other, as he bought the book to her and she asked them to not hurt him).

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Hello again Mister James Jacobs. Thank you again for all the wonderful job.

Why there is so few African Mythology/Divinity in Golarion ? There is so few black divine beings or symbology. I don't know how african mythological religions (as the Orishas) are seen in north america, but it a so rich and fierce legends and perfect for empyreal lords and other things. I know that you already has ethnic Mwangi in positions of power (Jatembe, Seelah, etc..) and you lost the oportunity for that in Serpent Skull, but if you ever has a chance of revisiting the so much forgotten african mythology again, please try again, even superficial research has so much that could add to a fantasy world and peharps easy the preconceptions about them.

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ciretose wrote:
Draco Bahamut wrote:
Man, i really wound't want to be the GM for these guys. . .

Which is exactly why we need more FAQs.

If before the take 10 rule had come up you had tried to jump over a ravine that was your exact take 10 distance, I would have said no.

Now I know better, there is an FAQ, it was clarified.

If before this ruling came out, if this build had shown up it would have caused conflict.

Now, it will only cause conflict if it is probably someone you don't want to game with, since they believe they know the game better than the Devs.

Most Brazilian GMs don't care much about that and everyone houserule something or other. Some players complain about arbitrality, but most people understand that each GM is an individual and the game enjoyability improves if a GM can execute his campaing with the rules well adjusted to his play style.

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Man, i really wound't want to be the GM for these guys. . .

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I have bought every adventure path since the start and only managed to run Rise of the Runelords (and i have changed it a lot). So i guess that i buy adventure paths only to read it, and i jad lernt a lot of things. i don't think there is possible to list every new rule that apear inside adventure paths because many are part of the adventure themselves, this is really what adventure paths really are, good ideas that you can play all together or in parts.
I already used the rules for fighting inside a tumbling tower of second darkness, the victory conditions over a plague and harrow deck plot variation of Curse of Crimson Throne, the one year later rule from legacy of fire, the opera scene from Council of Thieves etc...
So many fun moments and they would not make any sense if i ready about then without context of a adventure frame in a rule textbook. Adventure paths to me arent just adventures, he are practical exemples of how creative someone can be with the rules and situations you can put in a adventure.

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