|Adam Daigle Developer|
Now that this thread exists, I have one small request.
Can folks please, please refrain from repeating their own lists multiple times throughout the thread? I pretty much gave up halfway through the Bestiary 4 wishlist because a few people posted exhaustive lists over and over and it made it hard to keep up with.
I fully understand that there's going to be overlap between different posters, but when the same person is posting the same wishes it gets unruly.
Thanks! I'll be keeping notes. :)
Alexander Augunas wrote:
Also, Adam got a reputation for being a flumph-o-holic after he championed the critters into Misfit Monsters Redeemed. How true is that reputation? ONLY DAIGLE KNOWS.
I inherited it from Tim Hitchcock after he wrote the adventure in Dungeon Magazine "Box of Flumph". Then a few messageboard posters and myself started a flumph anti-defamation campaign since the poor critters have been so mistreated (I'm looking at you, certain stick figure comic!) Turns out, it worked!
Alexander Augunas wrote:
Coincidentally, they have (in my opinion) the best redemption in the book.
Thanks! That warms my squiggly heart.
Alexander Augunas wrote:
I think our pronunciation differs, but that first syllable nails it.
A word of warning. Don't trust Savannah - she was intern like you but she did something... None one knows what... That made the Powers That Be (of Paizo) let her live. She even escaped warehouse raptors... No interns ever escape warehouse raptors. Not since raptors learned how to open doors, at least.
That's not entirely correct. Patrick was an intern that fought through the threats and challenges to become a developer. Not all interns fall to the cave raptors or other related dangers.
"Devil's Advocate" wrote:
It's cool. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth or anything. I mentioned chastity because it was a connection to purity (one of the four virtues in your list of virtues you didn't see as exclusively good).
I like that you're interested in the book and I'm eager for you to get it in your hands. I can totally imagine that it can be frustrating to see people talking about a book that you just. can't. read. yet.
Despite them being in the warehouse and getting sent out to all y'all, I didn't get my hardcopy at my desk until today, so I was pulling up the PDF to reference people's questions and comments.
I'd like to think that I'm right in thinking that you'll enjoy it once you get it in your hands, but I don't want anticipation to get muddled with preconceptions from dribbled out information. Patience is a virtue. (Not in the book, sadly.)
I was speaking about reading the adventure, but not necessarily running it. I know I've read a ton more adventures than I've either run or played in, and while I would like to have the time to run/play many of those adventures, reading them was quite enjoyable too.
Reading an adventure is also a good way to know if running it would be fun. Anything else is speculation (however valid it might be). :)
Just to add something here...
It's completely okay if this particular part of the Adventure Path doesn't appeal to everyone. I can understand how the introduction of the idea of visiting a remote part of real world Earth can put people off in their fantasy game. And if someone is for sure that the slightest hint of that kinda thing could seriously disrupt the fun of their group, then by all means find something different to run. I'm here for the fun, like I imagine everyone else is.
If it doesn't jazz someone, it doesn't jazz someone. You can't force that kinda thing.
All said and done, I *DO* hope people at least read the adventure. I'd hate to think that people thought we lost our minds and came at this out of the blue. Baba Yaga's history in the game has always interjected strange bits of the real world, and I'd like to think we've preserved some of that nostalgia while cutting our own path with the folklore and what you can do with it.
We'll get trapped in the office and have to stay here making awesome stuff 24/7!
If at some point we do something with Arcadia, I'd personally like to blur the real world lore from the fantasy world lore a bit. Fewer direct analogs and more inspiration. I frequently get annoyed with the eurocentric focus on how fantasy settings portray "New World" stuff. I'd like to see less beads, braids, and loincloths, fewer noble savages tropes. After all, if the Azlanti influenced the continents to the east, what's stopping them from influencing the continent to the west? Also, if the map lifted from Kintargo can be believed, there's not really a place for humanoid migration to have happened naturally. It's even more geographically isolated than Sarusan.
Anyway, those are just some of my thoughts.
James Jacobs wrote:
When that time comes, can I watch?
While I'd love for you to go back and buy all of our books, I fully understand that is a daunting and potentially bank-draining task. :)
The suggestions given so far are solid. What I'd do if I were in your situation is start with the Inner Sea World Guide and then fill in some of the blanks with the Pathfinder Wiki. Then, once you determine which regions you want to know more about or which places you're most likely to place a campaign or places your players are most interested in, get the book that deals with that region/topic. Each of the pages on the wiki have citations to where the information was pulled from, so you can more or less use the wiki as an outline that can take you from the general to the specific.
Kevin Mack wrote:
Cool so uh whats the diffrence?
Between Summerborn and Winterborn Triaxians?
What's the difference between catfolk and a humanoid race that lives on another planet in Golarion's solar system?
Because the first will be explained in the article (and Bestiary) in this volume. I can't really help with the second one. :)
...Except we won't see that on a book cover. There is way too much institutionalized male homophobia for something like this not to be the marketing knell of doom....
Does this work? Seriously, we haven't been able to get Seltyiel to button his shirt in years. Showoff. :)