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20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

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Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4

Greetings peoples of Randland! Really looking forward to the game and meeting new people and getting to know each of your characters.

Picture of Jasmine. Shes the one on the left. ;P


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

looks good!


Female Borderlander Initiate 5 / Aes Sedai 3

I would offer greetings as well, but it would appear that I am trapped in a bubble of the one power at present.

But greetings none the less!


Female Ebou Dari Wilder 6/(former potential) Aes Sedai 4
current stats:
hp -9/52, weaves remaining 4/6/6/3/3/2/1

Hello everyone! I'm looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know, and continuing to have fun with those I do!

To those who haven't met Alathea in game, feel free to read her profile. The spoilered information is game stats and knowledge that you won't (yet) know in character, but I don't mind if you read it if you don't mind either.


Init +5; Senses:Low Light Vision, Scent, See 2x far in daylight, Perception: +13

Grettings all! Ryland of Fal Dara here, Boarderlander woodsman and now wolfbrother.


Human (Aiel) Algai 2 / Wilder 5 / Wise One 2 HPs (89) | F+ (10); R + (10); W+ (12)| Perc +17
Spoiler:
Weaves Remaining: 6/6 0lvl; 6/6 1st; 5/5 2nd; 4/4 3rd; 2/2 4th; 1/1 5th; 1/1 6th

Hi! Fiallain, ex-maiden of the spear, now Wise One apprentice here. Looking forward to meeting & playing with you all.


Male Ogier Noble 4 Wanderer 4 Armsman 1 Master Treesinger 1

If Amorial lives I am sure he will be pleased to meet all of you!


HP 133/133 | AC 26 (T 25, FF 22) | CMD 28 | F +7 | R +12 | W +6 | Init +8 | Per +17 Aiel

May you find water and shade. I am Rhoekk of the Jagged Spire Sept of the Tardaad Aiel. I am Aethen Dor, Red Shield, assigned to keeping the peace in this barbaric city of oath-breakers. I look forward to dancing the spears with you soon.


Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4
Rhoekk of the Tardaad Aiel wrote:
May you find water and shade. I am Rhoekk of the Jagged Spire Sept of the Tardaad Aiel. I am Aethen Dor, Red Shield, assigned to keeping the peace in this barbaric city of oath-breakers. I look forward to dancing the spears with you soon.

That sounds ominous lol


Male Tar Valoner Human Wilder 5/Asha'man 3

Former DM/slightly insane Asha'man checking in lol.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

just for reference sake...

The old tongue dictionary


Female Ebou Dari Wilder 6/(former potential) Aes Sedai 4
current stats:
hp -9/52, weaves remaining 4/6/6/3/3/2/1

Good to see you again, Jonasty!


Male Andoran Armsman 6

Hello, everyone! Just a head's up that I am around and lurking at the moment, but have very little time to post until probably the weekend.

Rizzenmagus: Are the changes to Warder and Armsman still in effect? I'll update my profile as soon as I have a free moment.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

yes they are, jed.

a'mar. i made did some changes to the warder. it is no longer a PrC, but instead a template.
and i also made the change that the armsman has the same feat progression as the pathfinder fighter. so a bonus feat at every even level.

Warder:
+2 enhancement bonus to Strength (Stronger)
+1 hp per level (stacks with toughness) (Tougher)
+5' bonus to speed (Faster)
+2 to all saving throws against weaves and abilities of shadowspawn and darkfriends. (Darkfriend is defined as someone who has sworn oaths to the Dark One)

(to balance these abilities I have increased the penalty to what happens if the bond holder dies. In addition to d4 per level damage, the warder must make a Will save dc equal to the channeler's level +5 or become consumed with finding their own death. Care in another channeler's hands for a full month can give a second save.)


Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4

wow those looks strangely similar to the ones someone else...who shall remain nameless...came up with in Jonasty's game :-P lol just messing with you a bit Rizzen :-)


Init +5; Senses:Low Light Vision, Scent, See 2x far in daylight, Perception: +13

Any love for the Woodsman / Wolfbrother?


Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4

I don't have the book in front of me here at work but they should definitely get the Scent ability right off the bat. I can't remember if they get it but if they dont they should.


Human (Aiel) Algai 2 / Wilder 5 / Wise One 2 HPs (89) | F+ (10); R + (10); W+ (12)| Perc +17
Spoiler:
Weaves Remaining: 6/6 0lvl; 6/6 1st; 5/5 2nd; 4/4 3rd; 2/2 4th; 1/1 5th; 1/1 6th

Yeah, I noticed that it appears Rhoekk may have many abilities not listed in core books as well. Does Fia's class abilities need to be updated?

And yes, scent for a wolfbrother only makes sense.


Init +5; Senses:Low Light Vision, Scent, See 2x far in daylight, Perception: +13

Book says next level so I have been trying to play it like he has it buut dosentknow how to use it as a tool yet.


HP 133/133 | AC 26 (T 25, FF 22) | CMD 28 | F +7 | R +12 | W +6 | Init +8 | Per +17 Aiel

You are right, Fiallain, Rhoekk used the Algai’d’siswai class from the Under the Dragon Banner web book, which is much truer to the source material in my opinion. Rizzen brought the book to my attention, so I know that it is an approved source.

Rizzenmagnus, on this topic, since a few characters are needing redesigns, I wanted to bring up an idea. As Rhoekk is a Red Shield, I was wondering if I could adapt a version of the Theif Taker prestige class to represent the Aiel keepers of the peace. Some changes would be needed, such as the Theif Taker using a Sword Breaker, which is not an Aiel Weapon, but I was thinking it could be replaced with Improved Grapple. I think that this kind of build would represent what I was going for with the character better than what I have now.


Human (Aiel) Algai 2 / Wilder 5 / Wise One 2 HPs (89) | F+ (10); R + (10); W+ (12)| Perc +17
Spoiler:
Weaves Remaining: 6/6 0lvl; 6/6 1st; 5/5 2nd; 4/4 3rd; 2/2 4th; 1/1 5th; 1/1 6th

Cool. With Rizzen's permission, I will change over to that version of the algai class. I was trying to find a way to make those 2 levels relevant again, since her becoming a wise one and losing her spears pretty much took away all her non-channeling combat utility. The hand fighting alone would make up for a great deal, and like you said, fits the Aiel better anyway. :)


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

good for it fia.

also, in my campaign, Rhoekk and i worked out a tweak to the Aiel Spear. I will post the info below.

rhoekk said: I think that the Aiel spear should basically use the Rapier stats. It's a martial weapon, not an exotic, and it fits the flavour and use of the Aiel spear much better in my opinion. It is small, fast, sharp but not bladed thrusting weapon designed to kill by piercing an enemy's internal organs. Both the Handaxe (which is equivalent to the Aiel Spear) and the Rapier are Martial, so there is no real change in overall power level.

Current Stats: Damage: 1d6 Critical: x3 Range 30 ft
Proposed Stats: Damage 1d6 Critical: 18-20 Range 30 ft

i agreed with the above, but made a slight change.
The aiel spear is considered a martial weapon to someone who is Aiel. Anyone else it is considered an exotic weapon

@rhoekk: I think that would work.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

ryland, scent can be made available to you on first level.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

apologies for the delay. the last few days have been crazy, and the next couple will be interesting, to say the least.

to start off, This past tuesday night i was voted into my cities vacant Alderman position. so yeah me!!!

friday my daughter goes in for surgery on a hernia.

so if i am akf for the rest of this week, you all will know why. but i encourage you to develop the relationships.

Also, jasmine, jed, ryland, fia, alathea, litheene, and jasper, all go up 1 level.


Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4
RIZZENMAGNUS wrote:

apologies for the delay. the last few days have been crazy, and the next couple will be interesting, to say the least.

to start off, This past tuesday night i was voted into my cities vacant Alderman position. so yeah me!!!

friday my daughter goes in for surgery on a hernia.

so if i am akf for the rest of this week, you all will know why. but i encourage you to develop the relationships.

Also, jasmine, jed, ryland, fia, alathea, litheene, and jasper, all go up 1 level.

YAY! ...and CONGRATS!


Female Borderlander Initiate 5 / Aes Sedai 3

Congrats on the new position! Sorry to hear about your daughter though, hope everything goes well.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

thanks. She was born with the hernia in her belly button, and the docs thought that it would heal over time. She's 4 now, and it hasnt, so my daughter will have a small smiley face under her belly button from the surgery. LOL


HP 133/133 | AC 26 (T 25, FF 22) | CMD 28 | F +7 | R +12 | W +6 | Init +8 | Per +17 Aiel

Best of luck for your daughter. My wife had the same issue, and same surgery when she was a child.


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HP 133/133 | AC 26 (T 25, FF 22) | CMD 28 | F +7 | R +12 | W +6 | Init +8 | Per +17 Aiel

Ok, here is my version of the Aethen Dor (Red-Shield) Prestige class. The class is based off of the WoT Thief Taker class as it plays a similar roll within Aiel Society. It basically sticks to the original Thief Taker PrC, but substitutes unarmed or grappling abilities for the Thief Taker’s weapon abilities.

Aethen Dor (Red Shield):

Requirements:
BAB: +6
Class Abilities: Spears of Death, Ji’e’toh
Feats:Improved Grapple
Skills: Diplomacy 5 ranks, Intimidate 5 ranks, Perception 5 ranks, Stealth 5 Ranks.

Skills: Acrobatics, Bluff, Climb, Craft, Diplomacy, Disable Device, Disguise, Escape Artist, Intimidate, Perception, Profession, Sense Motive, Slight of Hand, Stealth, Swim, Survival.
Skills are the same as Theif Taker (converted to PF), with the addition of Survival, cause hey, Aiel.

Skill Points at each level: 6 + Int modifier.

Level BAB Fort Ref Wis Def Rep Special
1 +1 +0 +2 +0 +1 +0 Hard to Fool, Traps, Sneak Attack 2d6
2 +2 +0 +3 +0 +2 +1 Unarmed Combat, Scout’s Charge
3 +3 +1 +3 +1 +2 +0 Greater Grapple, Special Ability
4 +4 +1 +4 +1 +2 +1 Skirmisher, Sneak Attack 4d6
5 +5 +1 +4 +1 +3 +0 Weapon Specialization
6 +5 +2 +5 +2 +3 +1 Uncanny Dodge (+1 vs. Traps), Rapid Grappler
7 +6/1 +2 +5 +2 +4 +0 Sneak Attack 6d6, Special Ability
8 +6/1 +2 +6 +2 +4 +1 Uncanny Dodge (+2 vs. Traps)
9 +7/2 +3 +6 +3 +4 +0 Bonus Feat
10 +7/2 +3 +7 +3 +5 +1 Sneak Attack 8d6, Special Ability
BAB, Saves, Defense bonus, and reputation are unmodified from Thief Taker.

Hard to Fool (Ex): Once per day the Red Shield can roll two dice while making a Sense Motive Check, and take the better result. Use of this ability must be declared before making the Sense Motive Check. The Red Shield May use this ability one additional time per day at level 5, and a third time at level 10.
This ability replaces the Theif Taker’s Brotherhood contacts, as it does not make sense for an Aiel. It is a standard Rogue talent from Pathfinder, and seems an appropriate substitution given the nature of the class.

Unarmed Combat: The Aethen Dor’s PrC Levels stack with any levels of Algai’d’siswai for the purpose of determining Unarmed damage. In addition they
receive the Improved Disarm Feat, even if they would not normally meet the prerequisites.
These abilities replaces Exotic Weapon Proficiency, as Algai’d’siswai already receive proficiency in all Aiel weapons. This works well with the theme of Red Shields being police who grapple and must be able to capture foes alive.

Scout’s Charge: Whenever the Aethen Dor makes a Charge, his attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target where flat footed. Foes with Uncanny Dodge are immune to this ability.
Skirmisher: Whenever a scout moves more that 10 feet in a round and makes an attack action, the attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target was flat footed. If the scout makes more than once attack this turn, this ability only applies to the first attack. Foes with Uncanny Dodge are immune to this ability.
These abilities replace Uncanny Dodge and Improved Uncanny Dodge respectively. The come from the Scout Archetype for the Pathfinder Rogue which also substitutes them for the same abilities, and thus maintains the balance of the feature. The substitution is there as Algai’d’siswai already receive these abilities. This substitution fits the class quite nicely as it demonstrates the rapid movement typical of the Aiel way of fighting, and as this is the only Aiel class so far to have a Sneak Attack, it is the only possible class that could benefit.

Greater Grapple (Feat)
This replaces the Capture ability of the Thief Taker with a similarly themed feat that instead improves grappling ability.

Rapid Grapple (Feat)
This replaces the second Exotic Weapon feat of the Thief Taker with a feat that instead improves grappling ability.

I'd have liked to sub out the trap stuff as well, but I figured that if any Aiel were familiar with evading traps, it would probably be the guys following suspects on the run, who may have left traps to guard their trail.

I believe this balances right on par with the original class, so let me know what you think.


Female Ebou Dari Wilder 6/(former potential) Aes Sedai 4
current stats:
hp -9/52, weaves remaining 4/6/6/3/3/2/1
RIZZENMAGNUS wrote:


Also, jasmine, jed, ryland, fia, alathea, litheene, and jasper, all go up 1 level.

Thanks! I've got Alathea leveled up. I feel kind of like she shouldn't have taken another level of Aes Sedai as she still isn't raised, but level 6 of Wilder just doesn't come with any cool stuff like the extra affinity that level 3 Aes Sedai comes with.

Good luck to your daughter, and best wishes as alderman!


Human (Aiel) Algai 2 / Wilder 5 / Wise One 2 HPs (89) | F+ (10); R + (10); W+ (12)| Perc +17
Spoiler:
Weaves Remaining: 6/6 0lvl; 6/6 1st; 5/5 2nd; 4/4 3rd; 2/2 4th; 1/1 5th; 1/1 6th

Praying the surgery goes well and she has a speedy recovery. Also congrats Alderman!! :)


Male Andoran Armsman 6

Okay, so an update since I haven't been around...

Work has been rather hectic for me the past two weeks, but I'm hoping things will slow down enough for me to start posting again (I post at work because at home I have to deal with a baby and I don't really like to jump online). But next week (starting this Saturday) I'll be on vacation and without Internet at all.

So I won't be around, and I still haven't update my character! I hope it doesn't cause too many problems. Feel free to DMPC Jed, or ASPC (Aes Sedai PC) if Jasmine wants to take control of him. I'll be back well-rested in a week, and hopefully will have some more time to quickly update my character and get a good post in here and there!


HP 133/133 | AC 26 (T 25, FF 22) | CMD 28 | F +7 | R +12 | W +6 | Init +8 | Per +17 Aiel

I'm going out of town for a few days, so I'll be unable to update until I get back; probably Wednesday. I'll check in then. Take care.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

fia weavesight check:

Threading the Needle

(By John Bornicke)
[Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Spirit] (Lost)

Level: 3
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: See text
Duration: Concentration
Saving Throw: None
Weave Resistance: No

This weave allows a channeler to detect the
use of either saidin or saidar, depending
on their sex. Female channelers can detect
the male use of saidin, while male
channelers can detect a female using
saidar.
The channeler may determine whether the
opposite power has been embraced or
channeled within the area of effect. They
may not ascertain the strength of the
power, nor the direction or location of the
channeler.
Use of this weave requires a great deal of
concentration and can be very taxing on
the channeler. A Concentration check (DC
of 20) is required each round to maintain
this weave. Failure means the channeler
must drop the weave and suffers a -4
circumstance penalty to all skill/ability
checks for a number of rounds equal to the
time the weave was held. If the weave was
held for four rounds prior to a failed
concentration check, then the channeler
suffers the penalty for four rounds.
The range at which a channeler can sense
the One Power in the opposite sex is 50 ft
radius circle per channeler level.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

Things are getting good now...MUWAHAHAHAA!!!!


Male Andoran Armsman 6

Well, I really hate to say it, but I think I'm going to have to drop this game... I was recently promoted at work, which is where I used to do the majority of my posting, but with my new responsibilities I just don't have that time (and it just isn't ethically okay anyway).

I had a very, very fun time with you all and I'm sorry I won't get to play with all the rest of you. And Jasmine, you were the perfect Aes Sedai to my Warder! It's been a blast!


Female Domani Wilder 1/Initiate 4/Aes Sedai of the Yellow Ajah 4

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I NEED MY WARDER!!! *Jasmine flings herself at Jed's legs and wraps them around him*

I had an absolute blast with you as well and congratulations with the promotion!


Female Ebou Dari Wilder 6/(former potential) Aes Sedai 4
current stats:
hp -9/52, weaves remaining 4/6/6/3/3/2/1

I'm sorry to see you go, Jed! Congratulations on your promotion, but we'll miss you!


Init +5; Senses:Low Light Vision, Scent, See 2x far in daylight, Perception: +13

It has been a pleasure Jed, I hope to game with you again.


Human (Aiel) Algai 2 / Wilder 5 / Wise One 2 HPs (89) | F+ (10); R + (10); W+ (12)| Perc +17
Spoiler:
Weaves Remaining: 6/6 0lvl; 6/6 1st; 5/5 2nd; 4/4 3rd; 2/2 4th; 1/1 5th; 1/1 6th

Awww :( Sad to see you go Jed. We all enjoyed getting to game with you. Congrats on the promotion though and good luck with the new position!!!


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

Jed, it truely was a pleasure in gaming with you. I encourage you to keep an eye on the game, and enjoy what you read. Since Jed was a PC, and is now an NPC guarding Jasmine, I have no problem with you suddenly stepping in and making a random posting.

That said, Jasmine, if you could, please make an entry into your character profile listing Jed's info. Since we have no set XP award system for this game, instead giving xps out after critical events and end of storybooks, then i see no reason to move Jed from the PC XP advancement to the npc hireling xp advancement.


Male Andoran Armsman 6

Thanks for the kind words everyone. I'll make an attempt at lurking, and if things turn around I may step back in eventually. I never did get around to leveling Jed, but I had planned on reworking him to be an Armsman 9 with the Warder template if you decide to go ahead and level him up.


Female Human Seanchan Wilder 2 / Initiate 3 / Aes Sedai 5

Jed, thanks a lot for the time playing with us, it was very fun. I hope you suceed well at your new task, and enjoy it.
Best of luck :)

On another note - sorry for the disappearance, I had to unexpectedly move an apartment, which is not fun. I'll level now and get back to the game ASAP. I see a few very interesting things (for Litheene) going on there.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

im glad to have you back Litheene. I know you will find this upcomming situation to be memorable for you.


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

The pieces are falling into place.


Female Human Seanchan Wilder 2 / Initiate 3 / Aes Sedai 5

Glad to be back :)
And it certainly does seem like it


Female Ebou Dari Wilder 6/(former potential) Aes Sedai 4
current stats:
hp -9/52, weaves remaining 4/6/6/3/3/2/1

What about interesting things for Alathea? When does she get to gentle dozens of Asha'man? (I joke, of course!)

No, things are indeed getting interesting. I look forward to what you've come up with, Rizzen!


20 years gaming, 15 yrs DM

well, there is always the possibility of severing...


Female Borderlander Initiate 5 / Aes Sedai 3

It would appear that between my work trip and Gencon that I completely allowed this game to slip through the cracks. I apologize for this entirely. When I have a chance I'll get caught back up on things. I apologize once again.

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