Asmodeus, Zon-Kuthon - who is the Dark Prince??

[Errenor]

There can't be two!
But they are both called this in pathfinder wiki and even new Divine Mysteries. Though Zon-Kuthon is called so only later in the text while for Asmodeus it's in the first line.

[PossibleCabbage]

Asmodeus is one of the two "big bads" of the setting (the other being Rovagug). So all the titles for "being awful" go to him in a tiebreak scenario.

Although Asmodeus is the "Dark Prince" in the sense of "evil; iniquitous; wicked" and Zon-Kuthon is the "Dark Prince" in the sense of "having very little or no light."

[Errenor]

PossibleCabbage wrote:

Asmodeus is one of the two "big bads" of the setting (the other being Rovagug). So all the titles for "being awful" go to him in a tiebreak scenario.

Although Asmodeus is the "Dark Prince" in the sense of "evil; iniquitous; wicked" and Zon-Kuthon is the "Dark Prince" in the sense of "having very little or no light."

I re-read Zon-Kuthon's article yesterday and can say confidently that he is very much evil, iniquitous and wicked. He isn't even about darkness mostly, he is about pain and twisted perception of it and about it.

Yes, Asmodeus is probably a bigger figure, but is it enough?

[QuidEst]

Errenor wrote:

There can't be two!

Sure there can. You're thinking of kings, not princes.

[Tactical Drongo]

Those are just monikers for them. There can be overlap. If I had to throw my lot in with one of them I still would go to asmodeus

Spoiler:

Wasnt he also rovagugs jailor? at least he helped to imprison the rough beast so he does occassionally something useful for everyone

But generally, what was said is correct.
Asmodeus is the Prince of Darkness in the classical sense. The big daddy of almost all things (constructive) evil.
Zon-Kuthon is the ruler of the netherworld and the darkest urges of (some) people.

So they both can be decently fitting called that.

[Tridus]

Zon'Kuthon is "The Dark Prince". Asmodeus is "The Prince of Darkness®".

Mortals that get this wrong and pray to the wrong entity may find themselves visited by a Solicitor offering an agreement to waive any right to sue over past trademark infringement in exchange for very reasonable go-forward terms and bunch of boilerplate fine print that probably isn't important.

[Errenor]

Tridus wrote:

Zon'Kuthon is "The Dark Prince". Asmodeus is "The Prince of Darkness®".

Mortals that get this wrong and pray to the wrong entity may find themselves visited by a Solicitor offering an agreement to waive any right to sue over past trademark infringement in exchange for very reasonable go-forward terms and bunch of boilerplate fine print that probably isn't important.

Are you saying that Yivali misinforms us? And what's worse, maybe even Pharasma?!

Also, solicitors are one thing, but what could visit from the other side is probably not better at all.

[Tridus]

Errenor wrote:

Tridus wrote:

Zon'Kuthon is "The Dark Prince". Asmodeus is "The Prince of Darkness®".

Mortals that get this wrong and pray to the wrong entity may find themselves visited by a Solicitor offering an agreement to waive any right to sue over past trademark infringement in exchange for very reasonable go-forward terms and bunch of boilerplate fine print that probably isn't important.

Are you saying that Yivali misinforms us? And what's worse, maybe even Pharasma?!

Also, solicitors are one thing, but what could visit from the other side is probably not better at all.

The Lady of Graves cares not for trademark law, for all things end and are judged by her.

[Ed Reppert]

QuidEst wrote:

Errenor wrote:

There can't be two!

Sure there can. You're thinking of kings, not princes.

Or sword-wielding immortals. :-)

[Castilliano]

Ed Reppert wrote:

QuidEst wrote:

Errenor wrote:

There can't be two!

Sure there can. You're thinking of kings, not princes.

Or sword-wielding immortals. :-)

A.K.A. Princes of the Universe

[steelhead]

Ozzy is the OG Prince of Darkness.

[Errenor]

I like it. We got all possible combinations here: one, the other, both.
Who will say neither?

[PossibleCabbage]

Errenor wrote:

I like it. We got all possible combinations here: one, the other, both.

Who will say neither?

Well, an Astomoi would have no sense of "dark" or "light" and would have no association between "darkness" and "evil".