Zoken44
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Just got it, so haven't had a chance to play yet.
I love that as ever, even though it says 4 reference cards, there are actually six (every beginner's box I've seen has had more than the stated amount of reference cards, but never less)
I love that they use different iconics, Lemi, Amari, Seoni, and... I forgot the monk's name.
and that it's a brand new adventure I can run people through.
| Gobelours |
Hi everyone,
I’m interested in getting into tabletop RPGs with Pathfinder 2E, and I’d like to buy the Beginner Box PDF on the Paizo store. However, I noticed there are currently two different products available, and I’m not sure which one I should choose:
“Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Beginner Box PDF” ($29.99)
“Pathfinder 2E Remaster Pathfinder Beginner Box: Secrets of the Unlit Star PDF” ($19.99)
As a complete beginner, which one would you recommend?
Is the newer “Secrets of the Unlit Star” version meant to replace the original Beginner Box, or is it more like a different adventure/expansion?
Thanks in advance for your help!
| Loreguard |
The newer Beginner Box (“Secrets of the Unlit Star”) is intended to be the replacement for the older one, and if you’re brand new to Pathfinder 2E, that’s probably the version I’d recommend.
The big reason is that it’s built directly for the current “Remastered” rules. The Remaster was Paizo’s update/reorganization of Pathfinder 2E after the OGL/Wizards of the Coast licensing issues a couple years ago. Mechanically, the game is still very much Pathfinder 2E, and the differences are generally pretty modest. However, some terminology and a few rules concepts changed (for example “flat-footed” became “off-guard,” alignment was removed, some specific monsters were replaced, etc.).
Because of that, if you’re learning the game fresh and buying current books from Paizo or your local game store, sticking with the Remastered material will probably make things simpler.
That said, the older Beginner Box is still excellent and absolutely playable. The differences between pre-Remaster and Remaster content are not huge, and older adventures/content still work fine.
One other suggestion: if it’s within your budget, I’d honestly recommend the physical Beginner Box over just the PDF. The maps, dice, pawns, and reference materials make learning the game much easier and more immersive for a new group.
Either way, though, the Beginner Box is a great starting point for Pathfinder 2E.
Zoken44
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I will add only two things to what Loreguard said.
The original Beginner's box (especially the PDF's) Have been remastered, so you will find the new rules there too.
and one other difference you'll find is included character options. both contain simplified character creation rules, with limited options, including humans, dwarves, and elves. In the new version Halflings are also included. they also include limited classes. in the original it is Fighter, Wizard, Rogue, Cleric. in the new box it is Monk, Barbarian, Sorcerer, and Bard.
and I will also echo Loreguard's recommendation of getting a physical copy from your FLGS. it has LITERALLY everything you need to run the game.
| ShinHakkaider |
I don't think my local gaming store ever got copies of it, and Miniature Market (where I order from when I can't get something from my local) hasn't gotten it in either. Is there something going on with shipping or production?
I won't order from Paizo directly because the cost of shipping is prohibitive.
EDIT: Amazon also has it, but I REALLY don't want to order it from there.
| Gobelours |
Thank you for those additional details!
I hadn't realized that the original Beginner Box PDFs had been updated with the Remaster changes, so that's very useful to know. The comparison of the available ancestries and classes in each box is also helpful for someone trying to decide between them.
And yes, the physical box does look like a fantastic package for learning and running the game. I'll definitely keep it in mind.
Thanks again for taking the time to clarify all that!
| SteeleType |
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I got the beginner box and four sessions in I am still super excited to start it. I planned one session of introduction and roleplay and it has ballooned into all the players chasing down plot points and forcing me to improvise for 3 sessions of intrigue and roleplay with a panicked combat thrown in when I can.
TODAY I'm going to get them back on track and start the box. Yup. Definitely.
| Ngodrup |
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The story is great and I'm excited to run it, but I've noticed that the adventure awards elixirs of life but doesn't list what they do/include a stat block for them. I guess it got overlooked because the beginner box GM Guide has a magical items section but no alchemical items section.