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Is Pathfinder Bastion of Blasphemies Adventure Path a Super Adventure / Dungeon like Abomination Vaults?
Not much has been revealed about it yet, but the description makes it sound like a very big castle dungeon.
Will it be all in one book?
Yes, all APs are one physical book starting this year.
Does Paizo have any plans to make it available on any other tabletop settings like they did with Abomination Vaults?
Nothing's been announced. That only happened for AV and Kingmaker. It happened with AV during it's re-release while it was at the height of its popularity, and Kingmaker's version was a kickstarter.
So while I can't say it'll never happen, I feel pretty confident in saying that it'll definitely be PF2 only when it launches.
James Jacobs
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I'm eager to chat more about this one, since I wrote it, but at the moment the time is not quite yet right to say more. I can confirm from the Paizo Live stream that it's all one book, that your PCs start at 5th level and should reach 14th by the end, and that the entire campaign...
We have no plans to make any version for any system other than Pathfinder. Same as for all of our new Adventure Paths have ever been.
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One book? really?
Yup; as mentioned above (and announced last year) Pathfinder Adventure Paths are going to be released all at once in single hardcover volumes starting this year. They'll still cover 9 to 11 levels of content, just like the 3-part softcover ones have been doing for the past several years, but they'll come out only once per quarter instead of once per month.
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One book? really?
Yeah that was announced a while ago and starts this year. Much more convenient for stores to stock a single book instead of 3 volumes.
I really like the single book format when I'm running APs since I only tend to buy one when I am close to finishing what I'm currently running. So the single volume is a lot easier than trying to find all 3-6 books.
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I'm eager to chat more about this one, since I wrote it, but at the moment the time is not quite yet right to say more.
No worries! Lookin forward to all the juicy details! Heh.
We have no plans to make any version for any system other than Pathfinder. Same as for all of our new Adventure Paths have ever been.
Hoping that might change one day. I can definately see a good ol'Castlevania style romp in and around Bastardhall full of all things creepy and dark would be insanely popular to players of other tabletop systems (and thus a good money maker for Paizo).
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Hoping [its being Pathfinder only] might change one day. I can definately see a good ol'Castlevania style romp in and around Bastardhall full of all things creepy and dark would be insanely popular to players of other tabletop systems (and thus a good money maker for Paizo).
I thought the previous AP adaptations were done by third-party publishers under licence. Did I get the WEOTS?
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Berselius wrote:Hoping [its being Pathfinder only] might change one day. I can definately see a good ol'Castlevania style romp in and around Bastardhall full of all things creepy and dark would be insanely popular to players of other tabletop systems (and thus a good money maker for Paizo).I thought the previous AP adaptations were done by third-party publishers under licence. Did I get the WEOTS?
We made Abomination Vaults for 5E ourselves, and to reiterate, we have no plans to make any version of Bastion of Blasphemies for any system other than Pathfinder!
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Deriven Firelion wrote:One book? really?Yeah that was announced a while ago and starts this year. Much more convenient for stores to stock a single book instead of 3 volumes.
I really like the single book format when I'm running APs since I only tend to buy one when I am close to finishing what I'm currently running. So the single volume is a lot easier than trying to find all 3-6 books.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how it shakes up the layout of a book. Mostly I'm hoping for a bit of expanded backmatter; the "Adventure Toolbox" sections and gazetteer sections. My guess is that these APs will clock in at roughly the same number of pages, so the content will be pretty similar, just all in one book. I can dream though.
I'm also hoping that working on adventures like this helps free up the production schedule somewhat, tbh.
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Hoping that might change one day. I can definately see a good ol'Castlevania style romp in and around Bastardhall full of all things creepy and dark would be insanely popular to players of other tabletop systems (and thus a good money maker for Paizo).
Chances of us simultaneously producing simultaneous releases of brand new Adventure Paths in multiple systems are not zero, but they're so close to zero that they might as well be. We might do stuff like we did for Kingmaker and Abomination Vaults again at some point if it makes sense financially and assuming we have the staff to do so responsibly.
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Tridus wrote:Deriven Firelion wrote:One book? really?Yeah that was announced a while ago and starts this year. Much more convenient for stores to stock a single book instead of 3 volumes.
I really like the single book format when I'm running APs since I only tend to buy one when I am close to finishing what I'm currently running. So the single volume is a lot easier than trying to find all 3-6 books.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how it shakes up the layout of a book. Mostly I'm hoping for a bit of expanded backmatter; the "Adventure Toolbox" sections and gazetteer sections. My guess is that these APs will clock in at roughly the same number of pages, so the content will be pretty similar, just all in one book. I can dream though.
I'm also hoping that working on adventures like this helps free up the production schedule somewhat, tbh.
Backmatter for these won't be expanding really. One of the things we ran into with backmatter for the softcover versions was that it sometimes encroached on the space available to give the actual adventure the attention it needed, but also in some cases we struggled to fill all of the backmatter "slots" with articles that were actually supportive of the adventure in question. These have to be adventures first and foremost. We'll continue to include backmatter stuff (and the Adventure Toolboxes, Bestiaries, and NPC sections will ALWAYS be there), but other stuff will be on a case by case basis. Sort of like how in Seven Dooms for Sandpoint there was only one backmatter article, and it was about the town that the entire thing took place in and nearby. You can see similar choices made for any of our hardcover compilations like Gatewalkers and Abomination Vaults—we don't reprint ALL of the backmatter stuff. Just the stuff that the adventure needs.
While the overall pagecount of a 256* page hardcover is less than tree 96 page softcovers, it's not reallya case of 256 pages vs 288 pages, because we don't reprint the table of contents, advertisements, full page Adventure Toolbox intros, and the like. Its closer to a 256 page vs 270 page thing. The difference of 14 pages (or even a full 32 pages) will have a minimal loosening of production schedule help, but it's more complicated to produce a hardcover and to edit/develop 256 pages at once rather than 96 pages spread out. In the end I strongly feel it'll result in higher quality Adventure Paths that make us more money (since this avoids the problem any periodical faces in the form of diminishing returns), but it's more of a lateral move in the production schedule department than anything else.
*One advantage of doing all-in-one hardcovers is that we can decide to do a different pagecount if it makes sense. We won't go below 256 pages, but we will sometimes go above that. "Bastion of Blasphemies" is 264 pages, for example.
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Deriven Firelion wrote:One book? really?Yup; as mentioned above (and announced last year) Pathfinder Adventure Paths are going to be released all at once in single hardcover volumes starting this year. They'll still cover 9 to 11 levels of content, just like the 3-part softcover ones have been doing for the past several years, but they'll come out only once per quarter instead of once per month.
This seems like it may be an improvement as it will allow a review that will make the APs more cohesive and allow better villain building. Sometimes with the different books being written by different authors at different times it made the APs seem haphazard and disconnected. Whereas a single book could allow more cohesive APs where pieces that weren't well connected are better integrated into the AP story.
As an old time gamer, I'm used to big AP type adventurers or box sets. The individual modules lines were cool too, but I also liked receiving one big book with an adventure like Temple of Elemental Evil or Spider Queen.
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I'm sad that all the buzzing posting activity that surrounded monthly releases is gone.
Now, to be hyped about BoB, I will need to wait for the first subscribers' AMA threads just before its release.
3 months is a long time to wait between two AP releases, with only some LO lore posts and often belligerent General and Rules threads to peruse in the meantime.
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This might be a dumb question but will this ap have horror elements to it? Thats the vibe im getting and of course being set in Ustalav helps lol. I loved Carrion Crown from 1e
Definitely got some horror in there. Take a look at the Paizo Live segment as well if you'd like some more info!
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I'm sad that all the buzzing posting activity that surrounded monthly releases is gone.
Now, to be hyped about BoB, I will need to wait for the first subscribers' AMA threads just before its release.
3 months is a long time to wait between two AP releases, with only some LO lore posts and often belligerent General and Rules threads to peruse in the meantime.
Thanks for this feedback, Raven Black!