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O-Yoroi
Having Bulwark and Laminar on the same armor with no drawbacks aside from the standard Heavy Armor speed penalty was always good. But given how much the Guardian wants to dump Dex and has so many of their abilities tied to their armor it might border on outright nerfing yourself not wearing it if you play that class.
If you don't like the aesthetic. Too bad.
Also does anyone else find it strange that O-Yorori is just Full Plate but Better and didn't get a drawback trait in the Treasure Vault Remaster?
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It weighs 1 Bulk more than Full Plate, so there's the drawback. While that's minor, so is its advantage.
Best would be a wood heavy armor since the Reduction doesn't stack, but of course there are none. An argument could be made for trading 1 AC to get medium wood armor for its crit effect (and getting some Dex, maybe to throw?); a dubious trade for every other class, but trades in some of a Guardian's immense defense for a little bite.
ET fix term.
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It weighs 1 Bulk more than Full Plate, so there's the drawback. While that's minor, so is its advantage.
Best would be a wood heavy armor since the Reduction doesn't stack, but of course there are none. An argument could be made for trading 1 AC to get medium wood armor for its crit effect (and getting some Dex, maybe to throw?); a dubious trade for every other class, but trades in some of a Guardian's immense defense for a little bite.
ET fix term.
Try negotiating that a wooden breastplate is just a kind of breastplate and add an Armored Skirt. Heavy wood armor.
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For reference:
O-YoroiHaving Bulwark and Laminar on the same armor with no drawbacks aside from the standard Heavy Armor speed penalty was always good. But given how much the Guardian wants to dump Dex and has so many of their abilities tied to their armor it might border on outright nerfing yourself not wearing it if you play that class.
If you don't like the aesthetic. Too bad.
Also does anyone else find it strange that O-Yorori is just Full Plate but Better and didn't get a drawback trait in the Treasure Vault Remaster?
I'd argue Gray Maiden Plate is better because -1 bulk on Full Plate is better than +1 Bulk and Laminar while keeping the other stats the same. It makes it much easier to run around with a Fortress Shield because it's 8 Bulk total compared to the 10 of O-Yoroi + Fortress.
Even if you don't want to use a Fortress Shield, less Bulk from armor is always better just t carry more stuff, especially when I've never, ever, seen Laminar come into play during the Tian Xia campaign I played.
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It weighs 1 Bulk more than Full Plate, so there's the drawback. While that's minor, so is its advantage.
Best would be a wood heavy armor since the Reduction doesn't stack, but of course there are none. An argument could be made for trading 1 AC to get medium wood armor for its crit effect (and getting some Dex, maybe to throw?); a dubious trade for every other class, but trades in some of a Guardian's immense defense for a little bite.
ET fix term.
Guardians don't get armor specialization. You'd have to go out of your way to get it by taking archetypea that are largely redundant.
Laminar is so niche (I think there are two feats you can buold around breaking armor) that an additional Bulk almost feels excessive, frankly.
Oh my, I hadn't noticed Paizo had taken that away. They used to get it early, but with Guardian's Armor it has become pointless (except for wood, so niche & unfitting anyway).
And yeah, hitting one's Bulk capacity feels too common vs. having broken armor (unless self-inflicted. i.e. Armor Break).
Looks awesome. What’s not to like about the aesthetic? It doesn’t have to be “Asian” coded in most games. Reskin it to look like whatever metal/laminate you like.
And I’m not seeing a Rarity tag. If your GM won’t let you use it because “Asian” then you have much bigger problems to overcome.
Looks awesome. What’s not to like about the aesthetic? It doesn’t have to be “Asian” coded in most games. Reskin it to look like whatever metal/laminate you like.
And I’m not seeing a Rarity tag. If your GM won’t let you use it because “Asian” then you have much bigger problems to overcome.
Yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. If anything that makes it perhaps worth the 1 Bulk if it weren't so easy to reflavor full plate.
Looks awesome. What’s not to like about the aesthetic? It doesn’t have to be “Asian” coded in most games. Reskin it to look like whatever metal/laminate you like.Indeed. This is a (work in progress) lamillar armor I made.
It is somewhat Asian inspired, but there are many cultures that do lamillar armor and this doesn't match any of them. It's actually made from salvaged industrial bandsaw blade segments and openly uses modern materials and tool methods, because it was made as a "post apocalyptic" cosplay piece (despite being actual hardened steel, so fully effective as armor).
That is cool.