I actually have VERY little history with D&D in-and-of itself, I've played exactly two games of it. So I'm not entirely familiar with what Pathfinder creatures relied on the OGL to be around. Like I get that the presentation of dragons is going to have to be different from D&D's, and I can guess at a few but I don't really have a comprehensive list. So as the title question says, what isn't coming back with the remaster?
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Good news is somebody made a thread just like this one in pursuit of similar answers. Bad news is its not entirely a comprehensive list so much as half speculation and half insights into genuine possibilities (with I think a few dev comments) for 300 posts, so it may require some close interrogation to divine the answers you seek.
Good news is somebody made a thread just like this one in pursuit of similar answers. Bad news is its not entirely a comprehensive list so much as half speculation and half insights into genuine possibilities (with I think a few dev comments) for 300 posts, so it may require some close interrogation to divine the answers you seek.
A comprehensive list would be more to my liking; having said that I do appreciate this link. Thank you.
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Drow are probably the most significant confirmed removal. Otyughs are out, as are owl bears.
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We do know what monsters will be in Monster Core, but that list isn't public yet and won't be for many months, I suspect. That said, that list is NOT the same as a "These are the OGL monsters we aren't going to be updating" which is different than the list of "These are OGL monsters we are updating but changing names and rules for" and that's different than "These are OGL monsters that we don't have to change because they aren't something we inherited from D&D's SRD".
It's all a very complex issue, but once Monster Core is out later next year folks will have a pretty good idea when comparing that to Bestiary 1 which monsters did and didn't make the cut.
And of course, we won't stop publishing monsters, be they remastered ones from previous publications for Paizo in its 3.5 era, 1st edition era, or OGL 2nd once Monster Core is done.
I feel like the biggest signpost for "this OGL monster won't be back" is if Paizo does print a remaster creature that fills a similar niche. Like an aberration about 8th level that can steal your body suggests the Intellect Devourer is gone, and a garbage eating sewer monster that is nevertheless intelligent and most likely reasonable tells you not to expect Otyughs.
"These are the OGL monsters we aren't going to be updating"
That is the list I would be interested in knowing. And I don't mean the list that is not getting an update in Monster Core, but might get an update in Monster Core 2 or Monster Core 3. I mean the list that will 100% be left behind never to be published by Paizo under the ORC.
I freely admit that that list does absolutely nothing for me other than satisfying my curiosity. I suppose it also let's me know what creatures from the OGL that are still a possibility, even if they don't appear in Monster Core.
Regardless, I trust Paizo to make the best decision for them and the path forward.
We do know what monsters will be in Monster Core, but that list isn't public yet and won't be for many months, I suspect. That said, that list is NOT the same as a "These are the OGL monsters we aren't going to be updating" which is different than the list of "These are OGL monsters we are updating but changing names and rules for" and that's different than "These are OGL monsters that we don't have to change because they aren't something we inherited from D&D's SRD".
It's all a very complex issue, but once Monster Core is out later next year folks will have a pretty good idea when comparing that to Bestiary 1 which monsters did and didn't make the cut.
And of course, we won't stop publishing monsters, be they remastered ones from previous publications for Paizo in its 3.5 era, 1st edition era, or OGL 2nd once Monster Core is done.
Guess I should have realized that a question related to publishing licenses wouldn't necessarily have a straight-forward answer. lol. Thanks for the clarification. ;-)