Can the concealed condition granted by Clear as Air be used to sneak?
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I would treat it like Blur.
They really need to create a new condition for 'the bonuses of concealed, but your position is obvious and you can't use it for stealth'. Having to reprint the exception on every new ability that wants to cause a Blur-type effect is too easy of a mistake in editing to make.
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Nanite Shroud "as normal for concealment that makes your position obvious".
Radiate Glory "as normal for when your location is obvious"
Mistform Elixir "As usual being concealed when your position is still obvious"
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But obviously Clear as Air is intended to be an exception to this.
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*theres too many cats in this thread*
I don't know if is intended because Hide can use concealed state of low-light to Hide and Sneak.
Nanite Shroud, Radiate Glory, Mistform Elixir don't allow because they use other visual elements to provide concealed. Clear as Air for other side works more similar to low-light concealment but instead of mix your shape with the darkness it mixes your transparent shape with the ambient.
So with this point if someone ask if can use Clear as Air concealed condition to hide I would allow.
For my interpretation, I would say the initial version of Clear as Air does allow you to hide, because it basically gives you invisibility. Except if you use it again within 10 minutes, it doesn't make you invisible. In which case, I would say you can't use the concealment to hide.
At 10th level, I would say it functions that way until you take a hostile action. At which point, I would say it ends the invisibility portion ends, and again it's concealment without affecting your visibility.
So I guess to Farien's assertion that Clear as Air in an exception, I would disagree. Only the time in which you are actually invisible would I say it is intended to allow you to hide from the concealment. The fact that using it more than once downgrades it, for me means you can't use it to hide.
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Clear as Air makes the air around you refract light so you become invisible. If you use it again within 10 min, it makes you concealed, as in partially invisible.
I would say you can use it to start a Sneak, but you need to get behind something or get actual concealment by the end of it. You can't just Hide in the middle of an open room when partially invisible (unless you're a Very Sneaky Goblin).
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*stares in visible confusion*
Sheesh, no one gets sarcasm any more.
Farien isn't your master calling you?
And don't your master given you a Master's Form? Having a cat here instills some wild instincts in me.
And don't your master given you a Master's Form? Having a cat here instills some wild instincts in me.
A couple more levels and I can get spellcasting to use Animal Form. So watch your step puppy.
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Hide however, does work with Concealed. And gives the Hidden condition. Which is sufficient for using the Sneak action since you can remain hidden to a creature that you started your Sneak movement Hidden against.