
JuliusCromwell |
About 10 years ago when I first started playing TTRPGS the first character I built my self was a Gestalt character who was a Tefling Dusk-Blade / Warmage. She was the first character i stuck with for a long time, all most a year and a half. ( My previous character the GM built but I'd always switch them out after couple sessions)
Well its not like I have a game coming up.
And I'm not wanting a gestalt character, but I'd like to Transfer as much of her over to pathfinder so when I do play I can use her.
She was a Tefling who Swung Around a Great Sword and used , I think it was shocking grasp or some similar spell, the Sword was a spell storing Blade.I normally Stuck lighting bolt in and I think the Blade was shocking and when I wanted to end a fight I'd unleash everything in one great alpha swing.
I know the best class for this would be Magus.
I know sadly I can't use a great sword. so I'm kinda thinking of going Kukri but not sure. I now a scimitar would be optimal with the right feat but I don't want or need the most optimize character just enough to where I don't feel like im a joke
I know a Schocking Grasp magus main bag is Criting and I think pf 1e still has spell storing .
And idk if I can even use a spell storing & spell strike combo but if I could what spell likely from my own list should I stick in it for the spell storing?.
Can I get some help rebuilding her in PF 1e
I'd l Iike her to not be as janky but still feel familiar enough to where it feels like old times

Claxon |

Have you looked at Bloodrager?
You can wield a greatsword and cast spells. It might be closer to what you're wanting, unless you specifically want to channel your spells through your weapon.
Bloodragers do more sword swinging than casting, so if your character did more casting magus might be a better choice.

JuliusCromwell |
Have you looked at Bloodrager?
You can wield a greatsword and cast spells. It might be closer to what you're wanting, unless you specifically want to channel your spells through your weapon.
Bloodragers do more sword swinging than casting, so if your character did more casting magus might be a better choice.
Ya Blood rager could be worth a look
But ya her main bag was chaneling spells through her blade
Claxon |

You could sort of simulate it with a spell storing weapon, but yeah you're not going to get spell strike and bloodrager together as far as I can see.
And even if you could spell strike you're not going to get a two-handed weapon with it.
And you're not nearly as martially inclined as a magus as I thought your character sounded, but maybe that's my bias.
I would probably use a scimitar for the crit range, and build a fairly standard shocking grasp magus, which you can find plenty of guides for.

JuliusCromwell |
You could sort of simulate it with a spell storing weapon, but yeah you're not going to get spell strike and bloodrager together as far as I can see.
And even if you could spell strike you're not going to get a two-handed weapon with it.
And you're not nearly as martially inclined as a magus as I thought your character sounded, but maybe that's my bias.
I would probably use a scimitar for the crit range, and build a fairly standard shocking grasp magus, which you can find plenty of guides for.
COULD I use spell storing and spell Strike at the same time?
I just want to know if I I can pull the same stunt I use too
Chell Raighn |
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There actually isn’t anything preventing a magus from using a two-handed weapon with spellstrike. They are prevented from using spell combat while wielding a two-handed weapon but NOT spellstrike. All this really means is that you can’t use spellstrike on a full-attack action, nor can you cast buffing spells as part of your full-attack actions.
At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell. If successful, this melee attack deals its normal damage as well as the effects of the spell. If the magus makes this attack in concert with spell combat, this melee attack takes all the penalties accrued by spell combat melee attacks. This attack uses the weapon's critical range (20, 19–20, or 18–20 and modified by the keen weapon property or similar effects), but the spell effect only deals ×2 damage on a successful critical hit, while the weapon damage uses its own critical modifier.
At no point does spellstrike restrict them to one-handed weapons, and it is a free action to take your hand off a two-handed weapon and another free action to put it back.

Claxon |

There actually isn’t anything preventing a magus from using a two-handed weapon with spellstrike. They are prevented from using spell combat while wielding a two-handed weapon but NOT spellstrike. All this really means is that you can’t use spellstrike on a full-attack action, nor can you cast buffing spells as part of your full-attack actions.
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
However, from a playability standpoint spell combat + spell strike is part of how the magus stays competitive.
Obviously I was speaking too inaccurately because I know it's spell combat with the restriction, but again from the playability stand point not being able to use spell combat is a big problem.

Claxon |

Claxon wrote:You could sort of simulate it with a spell storing weapon, but yeah you're not going to get spell strike and bloodrager together as far as I can see.
And even if you could spell strike you're not going to get a two-handed weapon with it.
And you're not nearly as martially inclined as a magus as I thought your character sounded, but maybe that's my bias.
I would probably use a scimitar for the crit range, and build a fairly standard shocking grasp magus, which you can find plenty of guides for.
COULD I use spell storing and spell Strike at the same time?
I just want to know if I I can pull the same stunt I use too
You could, as far as I'm aware though you'll really burn through spell quickly. And the 3rd level spell limit of spell storing will create a barrier, since you wont be able to be your ultra metamagic'd version of shocking grasp in it.
But yeah, spell combat + spell strike + spell storing weapon means you get to make a full attack with your weapon + 2 shocking grasps in one turn. It's pretty good burst damage.

Chell Raighn |

Chell Raighn wrote:There actually isn’t anything preventing a magus from using a two-handed weapon with spellstrike. They are prevented from using spell combat while wielding a two-handed weapon but NOT spellstrike. All this really means is that you can’t use spellstrike on a full-attack action, nor can you cast buffing spells as part of your full-attack actions.You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
However, from a playability standpoint spell combat + spell strike is part of how the magus stays competitive.
Obviously I was speaking too inaccurately because I know it's spell combat with the restriction, but again from the playability stand point not being able to use spell combat is a big problem.
Yes… losing access to spell combat does greatly impact the magus, especially at mid-late game… but it is still possible, furthermore, a two-handed weapon magus would actually be incentivized to go into the Eldritch Knight prestige class, ideally with a wide crit range two-handed weapon such as a falchion so they can gain the benefits of spellstrike on full attacks through spell critical.

Temperans |
You can solve the issue of two-handed weapon by using a bastard sword with exotic weapon proficiency.
Alternatively, you can grab 2 levels in Titan Mauler Barbarian to get Jotungrip, but you would get a -2 to attack when using spell combat.
You could go into Armored Battlemage Magus which trades out spell combat (thus no longer a factor) and get the ability to buff your armor. You can use spells to buff your sword.
Finally, you can play a Blade Bound Arcanist which is a perfect fit for Duskblade/Warmage. Arcanist casts arcane spells spells from a list of spells prepared as a sorcerer meaning you can spontaneously empower a spell, while Blade Bound lets them spellstrike as a Magus, they also get 9th level spells. Arcanist also gains access to Arcane Mask (Super Mage Armor that looks like actual armor), Potent Spell (increase caster level and thus damage), and metamixing (adding metamagic without increasing cast time).
In any case you can grab levels in Eldritch Knight and get Arching Weapon (standard action channel ranged touch spell through melee weapon) and Exploding Weapon (standard action cast AoE spell through weapon center on but excluding you). Both work like Magus Spellstrike on a melee attack.