What happens if you cure an Allips insanity?

[Senko]

I'm just wondering an Allip is basically a spirit of madness the tormented soul of someone drive to death by madness and using all sorts of abilities that have driving their victim made as a theme. So I'm wondering what happens if you successfully cast a spell like heal that cures insanity on them?

[WagnerSika]

Heal acts like harm on undead, it just causes damage to them and does not cure anything.

[Matthew Morris]

Senko wrote:

I'm just wondering an Allip is basically a spirit of madness the tormented soul of someone drive to death by madness and using all sorts of abilities that have driving their victim made as a theme. So I'm wondering what happens if you successfully cast a spell like heal that cures insanity on them?

As a GM? I'd applaud the idea, give it a will save, and if it fails, it is sane. Whether it goes on to final death or stays around I'd use rule of plot. It it makes the save, it doesn't take the damage.

RAW, it does damage no matter the intent.

[Melkiador]

Cast harm then. It works like heal on undead.

[Niemand]

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[Senko]

WagnerSika wrote:

Heal acts like harm on undead, it just causes damage to them and does not cure anything.

Then use greater restoration, wish or miracle. The spell is not the point, the point is curing its insanity.

Matthew Morris wrote:

Senko wrote:

I'm just wondering an Allip is basically a spirit of madness the tormented soul of someone drive to death by madness and using all sorts of abilities that have driving their victim made as a theme. So I'm wondering what happens if you successfully cast a spell like heal that cures insanity on them?

As a GM? I'd applaud the idea, give it a will save, and if it fails, it is sane. Whether it goes on to final death or stays around I'd use rule of plot. It it makes the save, it doesn't take the damage.

RAW, it does damage no matter the intent.

Hmm but if it doesn't kill it (say you make it a merciful spell) it might work interesting.

[Melkiador]

If I were doing it, I’d create a new monster to represent the remaining undead. It would keep its vengeance but be super sane about it. It would start plotting and planning ways to destroy its enemies. It may even harbor resentment against the insane and start hunting them down.

[Mysterious Stranger]

The description of an Alip states the insanity is incurable. That suggest that removing the insanity would destroy the Alip. Doing so would probably require a wish or miracle.