To make a long story short, after many tries I decided to go with a summoner with a demon eidolon.
I am still deciding between the 7 sins, but I tried some to build a proper eidolon, and started with a succubus.
But here lies the major issue: The succubus spell list
Quote: Divine Innate Spells DC 26; 6th dominateOccult, Arcane; 5th dimension doorOccult, Arcane; 4th dimension door (at will)Occult, Arcane, suggestion (at will)Occult, Arcane; 3rd mind reading (at will)Occult, Arcane; 2nd detect alignment (at will); 1st charm (at will)Arcane, Occult, Primal; Constant (5th) tongues
Divine Rituals DC 26; 1st abyssal pactUnavailable
Change Shape ( this could be humanoid formArcane, Occult, Primal
Divine tradition works perfectly for celestial beings, as well as psychopomps, but I am having really hard time not being able to replicate demons ( Just checked the succubus, so I am not sure whether other demons would have the same issue ).
I am currently trying getting some charisma feats through "skilled partner" to make things better.
Suggestions?
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Seems that currently we have only 5 out of 7 sins ( Envy and Greed are still missing ). I know that I am not obliged to pick up a specific deamon, but I'd like to.
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This won't work perfectly, but:
Tempter Demon (Dex/Cha)
1) Advanced Weaponry (Grapple) -- needed for Constricting Hold
2) Magical Understudy (Haunting Hymn, Daze)
4) Skilled Partner (Cha Skills: Bon-Mot, Glad-Hand, Evangelize)
6) Glider Form (Needed for Aerial Form)
8) Constricting Hold -- Our Embrace attack
10) Magical Adept -- (Command, maybe Warrior's Regret)
12) Summoner's Call -- Represents DDoor Back to you, or Grasping Limbs to auto-Grab.
14) Aerial Form
This kind of goes in two directions though: trying to do the skills/spells and the grab feats at the same time is tough. Levels 8-12 can be shuffled around as you want stuff available. I'd probably drop Magical Adept in favor of Transpose (to be your DDoor replacement) since Tempter's Vision acts like a spell and then do Grasping Limbs at 12.
You want to pick up Titan Wrestler from Skilled Partner there.
Dubious Scholar wrote: You want to pick up Titan Wrestler from Skilled Partner there. Yea, you're probably right. In retrospect, you could probably reverse Advanced Weaponry and Glider Form as well since you don't need the Grapple trait until right before level 8.
I was kind of leaning on Glad-hand to act as a 'Charm' substitute. Could probably drop Bon-Mot in favor of Titan Wrestler and grab Bon-Mot on the Summoner.
Sample round:
Act Together (Bon-Mot) + Daze from Demon Eidolon, last action: Grab.
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Also, we've got envy demons in the form of the Shadow Demon, now with the much cooler name of Invidiak, and your greed demon can be found in the form of the Nalfeshnee.
Perpdepog wrote: Also, we've got envy demons in the form of the Shadow Demon, now with the much cooler name of Invidiak, and your greed demon can be found in the form of the Nalfeshnee. Nalfeshnee looks like the Boar-man-pig from south park, lol.
Nice we already got all of em ( i looked at the list and they were listed as boar demon and shadow demon, that's why I couldn't find em... didn't also even consider that "Invidia" = "Envy" ).
cavernshark wrote: This won't work perfectly, but:
Tempter Demon (Dex/Cha)
1) Advanced Weaponry (Grapple) -- needed for Constricting Hold
2) Magical Understudy (Haunting Hymn, Daze)
4) Skilled Partner (Cha Skills: Bon-Mot, Glad-Hand, Evangelize)
6) Glider Form (Needed for Aerial Form)
8) Constricting Hold -- Our Embrace attack
10) Magical Adept -- (Command, maybe Warrior's Regret)
12) Summoner's Call -- Represents DDoor Back to you, or Grasping Limbs to auto-Grab.
14) Aerial Form
This kind of goes in two directions though: trying to do the skills/spells and the grab feats at the same time is tough. Levels 8-12 can be shuffled around as you want stuff available. I'd probably drop Magical Adept in favor of Transpose (to be your DDoor replacement) since Tempter's Vision acts like a spell and then do Grasping Limbs at 12.
Nice one.
As I feared, I'd have to invest way too much for it, and can't afford to expend anything on the eidolon.
Constricting Hold is quite a feat.
I didn't considered it at first.
HumbleGamer wrote: Perpdepog wrote: Also, we've got envy demons in the form of the Shadow Demon, now with the much cooler name of Invidiak, and your greed demon can be found in the form of the Nalfeshnee. Nalfeshnee looks like the Boar-man-pig from south park, lol.
Nice we already got all of em ( i looked at the list and they were listed as boar demon and shadow demon, that's why I couldn't find em... didn't also even consider that "Invidia" = "Envy" ).
The Invidiak and Nalfeshnee are actually my two favourite sin demons - nothing says envy more than wanting to steal someone's body a that you can literally be them, and the Nalfeshnee has one of the most mechanically interesting combinations of abilities I have seen anywhere.
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