How huge is Huge?


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I think Large creatures are between 8-12 feet tallbased on a few stat blocks I've seen, but just how tall is a Huge creature exactly? A Gargantuan creature?

I just made a summoner with a Huge, humanoid-shaped construct eidolon (well, dwarf-shaped) and was wondering about all those adventure paths out there that constantly define the height of low ceilings.


If they don't quite fit it just makes it difficult terrain. Which would be irritating at best for corridors and likely irrelevant in fights taking place in rooms.


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Size, Space and Reach

For the purposes of the rules, all huge creatures are 15 foot cubes, or 15 foot cubes with bits sticking out.


Depends on if its a "long" (10 feet reach) or "tall" (15 feet reach). A horse is not much taller than human but is large.

Also, the space for creature is more of a "fits comfortably during combat" than fills this amount of space.

So to answer your question, eyeball it.

Humbly,
Yawar

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An elephant is Huge.

A brontosaurus or a megalodon is Gargantuan.


Gargantuan is just anything bigger than huge, which could be anywhere from 20 feet across to a bigger than a city block.


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I'm looking at the images of the cloud giant and other Huge humanoids in the Bestiary and imagining Ogres and similar Large humanoids coming up to their waist, with Dwarves, Elves, Humans, and other Medium humanoids likely only coming up to their knee.


I've once seen a size chart
it was basically you start at normal (up to 2 meters / 6ft) and to see the upper end of the next range increment you double it so
large 4m / 12ft
huge 8m / 24ft.
and there this stops because pathfinder has less size incements

but it also works roughly the other way around
small 1m / 3ft
tiny 0.5m/ 1.5ft. (18 inch? I am used to the metric system :P)
etc.


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In previous editions of d20, Small was 2'-4' tall/long, Medium 4'-8', Large 8'-16', Huge 16'-32', Gargantuan 32'-64', Colossal 64'+.

No edition exactly followed these rules, and the range of scale within each category gets ridiculous, which I suspect is why they dropped listing them.


Garguantuan is pretty much "whatever".

Huge is a 3x3 spot on the board, iirc?

But there are, in fact, garguantuan monsters that amount to "some idiot animated an entire castle"


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Dubious Scholar wrote:
But there are, in fact, garguantuan monsters that amount to "some idiot animated an entire castle"

Who are you calling an idiot?


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Dubious Scholar wrote:

Garguantuan is pretty much "whatever".

Huge is a 3x3 spot on the board, iirc?

But there are, in fact, garguantuan monsters that amount to "some idiot animated an entire castle"

Remember that PF2 eliminated the Colossal size category, so there is no longer an upper limit for Gargantuan monsters.

Also, this table is still a useful reference, as I do not recall it ever being contradicted in PF1, and the only adjustment needed for PF2 is to eliminate the size categories that are no longer used and adjust Tiny and Gargantuan to be the lower and upper limits.


YawarFiesta wrote:


Also, the space for creature is more of a "fits comfortably during combat" than fills this amount of space.

Well, it is in theory/in what it represents, but for rules purposes (such as deciding if a 10 foot ceiling makes a room into difficult terrain) it fills the entire cube.


If I remember correctly, the 3.5 PHB had this size comparison image have example creatures double or halve their naturally posed height with each size change, with a honking red dragon as the biggest example in the picture.


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Going by that it sounds like the average is somewhere in the ballpark of 3, 6, 12, and 24 feet for Small, Medium, Large, and Huge creatures, respectively.


Ravingdork wrote:
Dubious Scholar wrote:
But there are, in fact, garguantuan monsters that amount to "some idiot animated an entire castle"
Who are you calling an idiot?

...Did you do this in response? There's an actual bestiary entry I was thinking of, but it's from an AP so I was being vague.


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Dubious Scholar wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Dubious Scholar wrote:
But there are, in fact, garguantuan monsters that amount to "some idiot animated an entire castle"
Who are you calling an idiot?
...Did you do this in response? There's an actual bestiary entry I was thinking of, but it's from an AP so I was being vague.

LOL. No. I came up with those ideas about a year or two ago. :P

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