Do thrown weapons use strength for attack rolls

[AlastarOG]

Hello all,

So I can't find a definite answer to this anywhere. I can find multiple traits about what feats work and don't work, but not the basic.

Do I use my dex or my strength when I'm throwing a hatchet club or light hammer ?

[MEATSHED]

They are ranged weapons when you throw them so you use dex.

[TiwazBlackhand]

Page 283, definition of the Thrown Trait.
You throw the weapon as a ranged attack, it's a ranged weapon when thrown.

Ranged weapon attacks use Dex to hit.

[Taja the Barbarian]

Thrown wrote:

Source Core Rulebook pg. 283 2.0

You can throw this weapon as a ranged attack, and it is a ranged weapon when thrown. A thrown weapon adds your Strength modifier to damage just like a melee weapon does. When this trait appears on a melee weapon, it also includes the range increment. Ranged weapons with this trait use the range increment specified in the weapon’s Range entry.

Chapter 9: Playing the Game / General Rules / Specific Checks / Attack Rolls wrote:

Source Core Rulebook pg. 446 2.0

When you use a Strike action or make a spell attack, you attempt a check called an attack roll. Attack rolls take a variety of forms and are often highly variable based on the weapon you are using for the attack, but there are three main types: melee attack rolls, ranged attack rolls, and spell attack rolls. Spell attack rolls work a little bit differently, so they are explained separately on the next page.
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Ranged attack rolls use Dexterity as their ability modifier.

Thrown weapons apply Dexterity to ranged attack rolls and Strength to damage rolls.

[Gortle]

The trait on a weapon that will give you Strength to attack rolls with ranged weapons is Brutal
Of course there are zero of these.

Well its just for a few monsters like Cave Giant... not for PCs at this time.

[AlastarOG]

everyone wrote:

dex to attack

Ok ok, seems pretty clear cut, I thought that was the case but foundry didn't do it as such and I thought I was maybe mistaken.

Evidently I was not.

[breithauptclan]

Gortle wrote:

The trait on a weapon that will give you Strength to attack rolls with ranged weapons is Brutal

I had a who's on first moment LOL. I initially thought you were commenting on the power level of a trait that would add STR to attack. Then realized that the name of the trait is literally 'Brutal'.

[Zwordsman]

Whose On First is a great reference so few folk will get as time goes on....

[Dragonchess Player]

Zwordsman wrote:

Who's On First is a great reference so few folk will get as time goes on....

I don't know ("Third base."), I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes retro at some point... Or a variation using another sport becomes popular in the future.

After all, the sketch was based on similar word-play performances.