Bastion Deditation and everstand Stance

[HumbleGamer]

Everstand Stand

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You brace your shield with both hands, enhancing its potential for both offense and defense. When in this stance, you wield the shield with both hands. When wielding a shield this way, increase the weapon damage die of the shield’s boss or spikes by one step, and increase the shield’s Hardness by 2 when using the Shield Block reaction.

Bastion's Nimble Hand

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You are so used to wielding a shield that you can do so even while using the hand that's holding it for other purposes. The hand you use to wield a shield counts as a free hand for the purposes of the Interact action. You can also hold another object in this hand (but you still can't use it to wield a weapon). This benefit doesn't apply to tower shields, which are still too cumbersome.

The hand that's holding the shield is either the left and the right.

So, might a Bastion be able to use either hands to hold objects or interact?

[shroudb]

I'd allow either but not both simultaneously

[masda_gib]

I would rule that one of the hands counts as free due to Nimble Hand, not both. I don't think Nimble Hand had taken the special case of Everstand Stance into account.
Also it's called Nimble Hand not Hands.

...although I would allow usage of both hands if a funny situation would occur. Because trying to open a door while holding a potion and a shield in two hands is like trying to open a door while holding 5 bags of grocery stuff. :)

[HumbleGamer]

masda_gib wrote:

Because trying to open a door while holding a potion and a shield in two hands is like trying to open a door while holding 5 bags of grocery stuff. :)

ahah

"Beware the grocery warrior"

[graystone]

masda_gib wrote:

I would rule that one of the hands counts as free due to Nimble Hand, not both. I don't think Nimble Hand had taken the special case of Everstand Stance into account.

Also it's called Nimble Hand not Hands.

I would counter that you should be able to count both as hands because someone with Nimble Hand could use 2 shields and count as having 2 free hands so it seems odd that using the exact same amount of hands on shields results in less hands usable with Everstand Stance.

[Cordell Kintner]

Well that's what I get for not reading enough.

[HumbleGamer]

Actually you can hold items.
It's in the feat description.

Quote:

You can also hold another object in this hand (but you still can't use it to wield a weapon).

[Gary Bush]

graystone wrote:

masda_gib wrote:

I would rule that one of the hands counts as free due to Nimble Hand, not both. I don't think Nimble Hand had taken the special case of Everstand Stance into account.

Also it's called Nimble Hand not Hands.

I would counter that you should be able to count both as hands because someone with Nimble Hand could use 2 shields and count as having 2 free hands so it seems odd that using the exact same amount of hands on shields results in less hands usable with Everstand Stance.

The word "hand" is used in the feat itself, not just the name of the feat.

Barring a FAQ, I think only one hand would be able to hold an object with Nimble Hand.

[graystone]

Gary Bush wrote:

graystone wrote:

masda_gib wrote:

I would rule that one of the hands counts as free due to Nimble Hand, not both. I don't think Nimble Hand had taken the special case of Everstand Stance into account.

Also it's called Nimble Hand not Hands.

I would counter that you should be able to count both as hands because someone with Nimble Hand could use 2 shields and count as having 2 free hands so it seems odd that using the exact same amount of hands on shields results in less hands usable with Everstand Stance.

The word "hand" is used in the feat itself, not just the name of the feat.

Barring a FAQ, I think only one hand would be able to hold an object with Nimble Hand.

"The hand you use to wield a shield counts as a free hand for the purposes of the Interact action." I can't see your reading as "The hand you use to wield a shield" is both of them: the feat was written with the assumption of normal shield use but fact is that the stance alters the number of hands you can use to wield the shield and nimble affects whatever hands are wielding the shield.